need help with using samples in logic

A V A

right i know i have thread on here askings questions etc and i do go and look before askinf things etc but for fcuk sake im just getting pissed off now in trying to sample the likes of onboard talking of the nasa apollos or a speach of jfk etc. im just trying something out for a my mates projects he does with his web design etc and the music i love to write all ambient and things fit perfect but i cannot find away how to put the speach/recordings in to logic , can it even be done

Rockshamrover

A V A wrote: »

right i know i have thread on here askings questions etc and i do go and look before askinf things etc but for fcuk sake im just getting pissed off now in trying to sample the likes of onboard talking of the nasa apollos or a speach of jfk etc. im just trying something out for a my mates projects he does with his web design etc and the music i love to write all ambient and things fit perfect but i cannot find away how to put the speach/recordings in to logic , can it even be done

AVA,

If the Nasa recording is an audio file, you can drag it straight into Logic in the arrange window from your desktop.

Does that make sense?

A V A

emm like files from the likes of youtube?? would you say i would be able to get nasa recordings even ??would i have to search sample torrentz ?? even

MilanPan!c

A V A wrote: »

emm like files from the likes of youtube?? would you say i would be able to get nasa recordings even ??would i have to search sample torrentz ?? even

Ok, there's a lot of questions this brings up:

Are you trying to import a video?
Is the audio in public domain/royalty free?
What format is the video in?

Can you tell us exactly what's going on?

A V A

no its not a video,just a audio track for example , the likes of a nasa video on youtube thats it !i dont know what you mean by royalty free/public domain . il just have synths/strings /piano etc and all i want to do is bring in is little clips of nasa space recordings for the ambient side of things

MilanPan!c

A V A wrote: »

no its not a video,just a audio track for example , the likes of a nasa video on youtube thats it !i dont know what you mean by royalty free/public domain . il just have synths/strings /piano etc and all i want to do is bring in is little clips of nasa space recordings for the ambient side of things

Hmmm... But doesn't YouTube only have videos?

What I mean by royalty free is that legally you can't really use that stuff, except in a very narrow way, commercially, unless the people that owned it initially (unless no one ever owned it... Which I kinda doubt) without the permission of the owner(s).

Sampling is a tricky area.

If it's just for fun, then no worries I guess.

To do it, just route the audio that would normally be going to your speakers back to your inputs and press record.

Or, record it with a mic.

A V A

ye youtube is just videos but i mean like the audio thats on youtube, just using it as a example.yes im just kind of doind it for fun really i would use recrdings like that if i was giving it to a friend for a video . but say if i can download a file with the nasa recordings lets say and not drag dem into logic like what was mentioned above

MilanPan!c

A V A wrote: »

ye youtube is just videos but i mean like the audio thats on youtube, just using it as a example.yes im just kind of doind it for fun really i would use recrdings like that if i was giving it to a friend for a video . but say if i can download a file with the nasa recordings lets say and not drag dem into logic like what was mentioned above

I would still say the easiest solution is rerouting the audio back through the sound card and recording it in Logic.

I'm pretty sure logic can handle seperating audio and video (though I wouldn't swear to it), but sure it'd be about the same quality and a millions easier to just re-route the audio and record it.

madtheory

AVA ignoring the copyright issues, you can use something like Audio Hijack to record any audio as a wav file, which you can then drag and drop into Logic. That's probably the simplest way. m!lan's way will work too. You could also get a Firefox addon that will record youtube clips as an mpeg video, then use quicktime pro (if you have it) to convert that to a WAV audio file.

I think you can also get NASA stuff on www.freesound.org

Android 666

Downloaded the free youtube to mp3 converter from this website:

http://www.dvdvideosoft.com/

Then download Audacity to chop it up and save as a wav file. That should sort you out.

A V A

i do want to use other files aswell not only nanse stuff


so do i jut run from the audio 3/4 inch jack on my mac tom a rca input on my interface! if i was to record it from my computer and into logic


is that download app any use

Rockshamrover

A V A wrote: »

i do want to use other files aswell not only nanse stuff


so do i jut run from the audio 3/4 inch jack on my mac tom a rca input on my interface! if i was to record it from my computer and into logic


is that download app any use

Hi AVA, Me again.

The audio will already be on your Mac so you don't need to put it through your interface.

You just drag the file with your mouse from where ever you have it, directly onto logic.

A V A

Rockshamrover wrote: »

Hi AVA, Me again.

The audio will already be on your Mac so you don't need to put it through your interface.

You just drag the file with your mouse from where ever you have it, directly onto logic.

hold on im having a blonde moment ?? i do this after i download the file yes ???

Rockshamrover

A V A wrote: »

hold on im having a blonde moment ?? i do this after i download the file yes ???

Exactly.

A V A

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krd

MilanPan!c wrote: »

Hmmm... But doesn't YouTube only have videos?

What I mean by royalty free is that legally you can't really use that stuff, except in a very narrow way, commercially, unless the people that owned it initially (unless no one ever owned it... Which I kinda doubt) without the permission of the owner(s).

Sampling is a tricky area.

If it's just for fun, then no worries I guess.

To do it, just route the audio that would normally be going to your speakers back to your inputs and press record.

Or, record it with a mic.

No these recordings are actually completely royalty free. Technically NASA could come after people outside the US using bits, but they don't and never have.

Any US public information film is completely royalty free. The thinking being rugged individualists have already paid for the production with their tax dollars - why should they be expected to pay again. And that goes for anyone sampling the recordings. You can also use US produced public information films royalty free for making videos. Why do you think so many broke ass dance labels used to make videos with astronauts doing zero gravity maintenance walks.

To record audio from youtube - set your audio editor record to capture what you hear. It's one of these simple things to do - which I keep forgetting how to do, especially when i need to do it. How do you think I got scratchy disco guitar samples - do you think I went out and bought a disco compilation (wish I had - must do)

madtheory

krd wrote: »

set your audio editor record to capture what you hear.

If that's possible on a Mac, please tell us...?

dasdog

Re NASA, The Orb as one example did (a really good job of) the whole Tranquility Base thing nearly 20 years ago. For hobbyists, surely a vast library such youtube and the like are where you want to be getting your samples from rather than the same old sources. I've done whole tunes based around people who are stupid enough to post clips of themselves talking crap on acid...and you get a free video out of it if you want. I'd normally download using software such as that which has been referenced (or similar) and import the audio from the video file (usually an *.flv for a PC) rather than the full duplex realtime method. If you want a video it should be easy to sync up afterwards.

krd

madtheory wrote: »

If that's possible on a Mac, please tell us...?

Yes, it is very possible on a Mac. I don't have a Mac in front of me and haven't touched one in a year. But capturing "what you hear" is a basic function.

Google it. It's a basic function. All audio is played through an audio stream on the Mac - all you need is a little program to capture it. It's the same for capturing video streams - but a little more complicated. And most of the software for capturing video you have to pay for. Same with the Youtube video capture sites - they used to be free but if you want them to work you need to pay a subscription now.

krd

If you do a search there a few sites with astronauts talking full sound files for free download.

There is a lot of freaky royalty free stuff out there for download if you search enough.

This is the freakiest - http://www.archive.org/details/ptc1978-11-18.flac16

I down loaded this - and listened to it once with my house mates at the time - while we were all stoned - then I used to threaten them.. when they were misbehaving - that I would put "The Tape" on.

It's seriously fcuked up...Royalty free... and ripe to be mined by some sicko for samples. And nearly impossible to listen to twice - I want the "this is the revolutionary suicide committee" sample. But you're all welcome to what meat you can pick from the bones..And trust me that tape has lots of bones, lots of ghost - Friends, fiends and vultures - knock yourselves out - if you dare -

Brou ha ha haw -- evil Abbot & Costello meets Frankenstein reverb chamber laugh.

woodsdenis

madtheory wrote: »

If that's possible on a Mac, please tell us...?

http://www.rogueamoeba.com/audiohijackpro/

madtheory

Yes, I said that app earlier...

krd wrote: »

Yes, it is very possible on a Mac. I don't have a Mac in front of me and haven't touched one in a year. But capturing "what you hear" is a basic function.

Not quite a "basic function" no. Audacity and Audio Hijack are the only apps that do it, most Mac audio editors don't. It's very straightforward on Windows, but not Mac.

krd

Macs are great - but I'd need to sit down with one again for about an hour to remember how to do all the tricks. There are little command line apps that can capture audio at a few keystrokes. There are also ways of pulling the entire video you've just watched on Youtube out of the internet cache.

If you're putting stuff on Youtube you should make a video. This is one I made earlier http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8h9a8AA6vA

That's some of my Noobish techno cut up with an obscure 70s zombie film. So what that I might be violating copyright - it's not like anyone's notice and my friends think it's cool. It's fun to play and I can say I modelled it on Michael Jackson's Thriller - except with a much much much lower budget.

If you're putting music up on Youtube - that you want people to watch, a cool video helps. And copyright doesn't matter if you're only getting a few hundred or thousand plays - it only becomes a problem when serious money is involved. The worst that can happen is Youtube pull the video.

My Zombie video was a pain in the arse to do. I had to research it. Find the clips and edit it together - it was a fcuking pain in the arse. The only thing that made it worthwhile was playing it for some friends a few weeks back.

But

My next project - I want to do a video with clips of that weird guy who's been stalking news crews in London - turning up in the background of loads of broadcasts. I want to cut together the Youtube clips - put some menacing soundtrack on it - play it for some friends, tell them to just keep watching - until in their freaked out minds they see the randomly edited newsclips are not randomly edited newsclip. That the same freak keeps appearing in the background - and the music and video is really about the freak. And the guy looks seriously freaky.

But, the project is a seriously projected pain in the arse. It means capturing, downloading all the Youtube clips people have been posting - converting the format - cutting and editing. And then re-posting (not that the re-posting is a big deal - it's getting to that stage is the killer)

But - it would be a seriously cool video. A seriously cool video. Anyone want to volunteer to help me out?

romarr

madtheory wrote: »

If that's possible on a Mac, please tell us...?

I use soundflower for this kind of stuff (audio from video, youtube etc), its a free app to route audio around where ever you want (ie web browser to daw)

install
mac sys preferences > sound > choose sound flower 2 ch as output
daw prefs> choose sound flower 2 ch as input
hit play in browser, record in daw

and away ya go

http://cycling74.com/products/soundflower/

A V A

downloading cylce74 is that right in my downloads its says max5 as its name is that the on e or am i after downloading the wrong one


max.msp.jitter . . .. thats coming up in a install window , is that the right one

romarr

scroll down a bit and you'll see the sf download link

for your convenience http://code.google.com/p/soundflower/downloads/list

dasdog

krd wrote: »

If you do a search there a few sites with astronauts talking full sound files for free download.

There is a lot of freaky royalty free stuff out there for download if you search enough.

This is the freakiest - http://www.archive.org/details/ptc1978-11-18.flac16

I down loaded this - and listened to it once with my house mates at the time - while we were all stoned - then I used to threaten them.. when they were misbehaving - that I would put "The Tape" on.

It's seriously fcuked up...Royalty free... and ripe to be mined by some sicko for samples. And nearly impossible to listen to twice - I want the "this is the revolutionary suicide committee" sample. But you're all welcome to what meat you can pick from the bones..And trust me that tape has lots of bones, lots of ghost - Friends, fiends and vultures - knock yourselves out - if you dare -

Brou ha ha haw -- evil Abbot & Costello meets Frankenstein reverb chamber laugh.

Wow...that's so nasty I'm not sure if I would be comfortable using it. Seriously evil. Makes the Aleister Crowley recording's I have seem like nursery rhymes.

A V A

i just want to say thank you to every one that helped,that sunflower thing works a bloody dream and have already started adding things in

seannash

eh im a bit miffed at this.

he only wants to get the audio from a youtube video right?

why doesnt he just use a free youtube to mp3 site like this one
http://www.video2mp3.net/

just enter the video url and it spits out the audio file.

then import it into logic,no need for rerouting with soundflower

A V A

that sun flower thing has to be the most easiest way possible to do what i want to do

trackmixstudio

I use audio hijack.
Works fine for ripping audio from the net or DVDs etc.
Must check out Soundflower though.

A V A

trackmixstudio wrote: »

I use audio hijack.
Works fine for ripping audio from the net or DVDs etc.
Must check out Soundflower though.

ye do its so simple
all you have to do is click one things in both preferences of what your using so so simple