Moaning and Sad Stories: The Drugs of choice for the Irish?

Foxhound38

A mate of mine from the UK decided to pay a visit to these shores a while back, and as I was driving him from the airport I switched on the radio, which was playing Joe Duffy at the time. He found it hilarious, saying that the ridiculous sad stories and moan-ology being peddled would not have had much of an audience in the UK, and was shocked when I informed him that it was actually one of the most popular shows on Irish radio.

I had never really thought of this too much until then, but do we as a country have an unhealthy fixation on such whinging and negativity to a larger extent than people of other countries?

kfallon

Foxhound38 wrote: »

I had never really thought of this too much until then, but do we as a country have an unhealthy fixation on such whinging and negativity to a larger extent than people of other countries?

Why do the likes of your 'mate' and others in the UK have such an unhealthy fixation on us???

You don't see us with a Jeremy Kyle style show over here!

Donkey Oaty

I dread to think what he would have thought of "Funny Friday".

Captain Darling

Foxhound38 wrote: »

A mate of mine from the UK decided to pay a visit to these shores a while back, and as I was driving him from the airport I switched on the radio, which was playing Joe Duffy at the time. He found it hilarious, saying that the ridiculous sad stories and moan-ology being peddled would not have had much of an audience in the UK, and was shocked when I informed him that it was actually one of the most popular shows on Irish radio.

I had never really thought of this too much until then, but do we as a country have an unhealthy fixation on such whinging and negativity to a larger extent than people of other countries?

Have you not been reading AH lately? Does this actually surprise you?

Foxhound38

kfallon wrote: »

Why do the likes of your 'mate' and others in the UK have such an unhealthy fixation on us???

You don't see us with a Jeremy Kyle style show over here!

True, they do have that aweful show I suppose.

And it's no fixation on his part as such - he was in the car and was surprised that the Joe Duffy show was a popular as it is, it was an off-hand comment.

Ickle Magoo

kfallon wrote: »

Why do the likes of your 'mate' and others in the UK have such an unhealthy fixation on us???

You don't see us with a Jeremy Kyle style show over here!

Actually, you do have the Jeremy Kyle show over here.

Yep, the UK has such a fixation on ireland, there are no irish channels shown over the water but you bought the rights to all theirs...go figure. :P

WindSock

Foxhound38 wrote: »

ridiculous sad stories and moan-ology being peddled would not have had much of an audience in the UK,

Really? I thought they were known as the 'Whinging Poms' in the Antipodes for a good reason.

Strange Loop

Foxhound38 wrote: »

A mate of mine from the UK decided to pay a visit to these shores a while back, and as I was driving him from the airport I switched on the radio, which was playing Joe Duffy at the time. He found it hilarious, saying that the ridiculous sad stories and moan-ology being peddled would not have had much of an audience in the UK, and was shocked when I informed him that it was actually one of the most popular shows on Irish radio.

I had never really thought of this too much until then, but do we as a country have an unhealthy fixation on such whinging and negativity to a larger extent than people of other countries?

The British have their Herren Moralen whilst we Irish are still mired in our Sklaven Moralen (slave morality) which tends towards pessimisim and scepticism, a la Nietzsche.

pickarooney

Can we get a moaning forum for moaning and moaning about moaning?

The British have their Herren Moralen whilst we Irish are still mired in our Sklaven Moralen (slave morality) which tends towards pessimisim and scepticism, a la Nietzsche.

Bietzsche Nietzsche, as he was called in school.

Hank_Jones

kfallon wrote: »

Why do the likes of your 'mate' and others in the UK have such an unhealthy fixation on us???

You don't see us with a Jeremy Kyle style show over here!

The Jeremy Kyle show is bloody hilarious.

Happen across it sometimes.
The other day the name of the show was ''I'll take a lie detector test to prove that I only spelt with one other person while you were pregnant.''

And then last week the show was about a woman who was looking for help for her teenage son who was out of control (the kid was like 13 or 14). Then as the end of the show nears and she has poured her heart out about how she is having trouble with the kid....they go and talk to the kid about everything and he says he will try his best to be good if the mother calms down on her drinking!!
English chavs are bloody great.

Also, I really need to find a job...

kfallon

Ickle Magoo wrote: »

Yep, the UK has such a fixation on ireland, there are no irish channels shown over the water but you bought the rights to all theirs...go figure. :P

Yip we show the UK Channels and they took our Country for 800 years, fair swap wasn't it!

We don't make the Jeremy Kyle show, that's the point I'm making. UK guy comes over and laughs at the rubbish on Joe Duffy but what about the people on Jeremy Kyle....most of them have the brains of a retarded budgie! Yet viewing figures for it are probably thru the roof each morning!

Wazdakka

Strange Loop wrote: »

The British have their Herren Moralen whilst we Irish are still mired in our Sklaven Moralen (slave morality) which tends towards pessimisim and scepticism, a la Nietzsche.

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Foxhound38

kfallon wrote: »

Yip we show the UK Channels and they took our Country for 800 years, fair swap wasn't it!

We don't make the Jeremy Kyle show, that's the point I'm making. UK guy comes over and laughs at the rubbish on Joe Duffy but what about the people on Jeremy Kyle....most of them have the brains of a retarded budgie! Yet viewing figures for it are probably thru the roof each morning!

But could the rubbish on Jeremy Jyle really be compared to rubbish on Joe Duffy? As far as I can tell, the pull for Jeremy Kyle is the whole shouting at dysfunctional yobs stuff - Joe Duffy doesn't really do that...

kfallon

Foxhound38 wrote: »

But could the rubbish on Jeremy Jyle really be compared to rubbish on Joe Duffy? As far as I can tell, the pull for Jeremy Kyle is the whole shouting at dysfunctional yobs stuff - Joe Duffy doesn't really do that...

We don't do it cos we've got more class.....

stovelid

Another reason to hate the recession: floods of plaintive, national self-analysis.

Thank God there was no Internet during the last one.

orourkeda

Shut up whingebags. Getting on me wick yiz all are.

easyeason3

Foxhound38 wrote: »

But could the rubbish on Jeremy Jyle really be compared to rubbish on Joe Duffy? As far as I can tell, the pull for Jeremy Kyle is the whole shouting at dysfunctional yobs stuff - Joe Duffy doesn't really do that...

Joe Duffy = old ladies giving out about the queues in the post office.

Jeremy Kyle = chavtastic cream crackers possibly beating an old lady to death in the queue of the post office having just ridden some bird, who is now looking for a DNA test.

ejmaztec

No-one whinges in the UK, they go to Australia to do that i.e. whinging poms.

kfallon

easyeason3 wrote: »

Joe Duffy = old ladies giving out about the queues in the post office.

Jeremy Kyle = chavtastic cream crackers possibly beating an old lady to death in the queue of the post office having just ridden some bird, who is now looking for a DNA test.

Jeremy Kyle participants cannot have anymore than 5 teeth, must not have washed in over 3 weeks and must have the obligatory 'Love Hate' tatts on their knuckles!

Ickle Magoo

kfallon wrote: »

Yip we show the UK Channels and they took our Country for 800 years, fair swap wasn't it!

We don't make the Jeremy Kyle show, that's the point I'm making. UK guy comes over and laughs at the rubbish on Joe Duffy but what about the people on Jeremy Kyle....most of them have the brains of a retarded budgie! Yet viewing figures for it are probably thru the roof each morning!

I think it's safe to say that the reason Jeremy Kyle is on during the day when most people are at work or in education is precisely because what is left at home is the minority demographic they are aiming at. If JK had a prime time slot and huge viewing figures, you'd have a point.

Foxhound38

Ickle Magoo wrote: »

I think it's safe to say that the reason Jeremy Kyle is on during the day when most people are at work or in education is precisely because what is left at home is the minority demographic they are aiming at. If JK had a prime time slot and huge viewing figures, you'd have a point.

College students?

mojesius

The UK population is approx 10 times more than ours, too large and diverse an audience to address the issues that Joe Duffy does on national radio.

They also have way more regional radio stations, they probably have similar shows to Joe Duffy that the local audience can relate to.

Ickle Magoo

Foxhound38 wrote: »

College students?

I don't think that's their target audience no, any more than sick people or women on maternity leave - but it has now become hilarious viewing for anyone else who happens to also be at home during the day.

Saila

where the hell did you get that notion from :mad:

easyeason3

kfallon wrote: »

Jeremy Kyle participants cannot have anymore than 5 teeth, must not have washed in over 3 weeks and must have the obligatory 'Love Hate' tatts on their knuckles!

Don't forget nails bitten down to stubs, a few chunky gold chains, maybe something classy like a diamante encrusted ring from argos that spells 'Mum' or 'Dad'.
And of course it wouldn't be Jeremy Kyle without the universal scumbag uniform of white reebok classic, white socks, tracksuit bottoms tucked into the socks, some form of a soccer jersey & a baseball cap tipped at a 45 degree angle.

mojesius

easyeason3 wrote: »

Don't forget nails bitten down to stubs, a few chunky gold chains, maybe something classy like a diamante encrusted ring from argos that spells 'Mum' or 'Dad'.
And of course it wouldn't be Jeremy Kyle without the universal scumbag uniform of white reebok classic, white socks, tracksuit bottoms tucked into the socks, some form of a soccer jersey & a baseball cap tipped at a 45 degree angle.

and that's just the women.

Donkey Oaty

Ickle Magoo wrote: »

hilarious viewing

You're a disgrace, Madam. Get off my stage.

And as the rest of you, LOOK AT ME, MAN TO MAN. When are you going to GROW UP and TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for your lives?

/pauses for cheap applause

Foxhound38

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZb9-7i-ncc

ElaElaElano

What I love the most about Jeremy Kyle is when someone from the audience pipes up with an opinion like 'I think what you done is 'orrible, shágging your wife's sister' and then they all cheer wildly like the person's just made some fascinating, well thought out point.

DrumSteve

Hank_Jones wrote: »

The Jeremy Kyle show is bloody hilarious.

Happen across it sometimes.
The other day the name of the show was ''I'll take a lie detector test to prove that I only spelt with one other person while you were pregnant.''


Also, I really need to find a job...

The Irony...

aDeener

i can't believe i'm going to say this but the joe duffy show can actually be quite useful for showing up genuine wrongdoing that otherwise would have went unnoticed. it can really show up bad practice by the likes companies but obviously many callers ring in with pathetic "grievances" and ruin what is otherwise a decent concept

mojesius

ElaElaElano wrote: »

What I love the most about Jeremy Kyle is when someone from the audience pipes up with an opinion like 'I think what you done is 'orrible, shágging your wife's sister' and then they all cheer wildly like the person's just made some fascinating, well thought out point.

or when Jeremy goes on one of his many self-proclaiming rants about how HE pays maintenance and drives up and down the coutry every week to see his kids. He goes nuts when someone on stage mentions his gambling problem.

Foxhound38

aDeener wrote: »

i can't believe i'm going to say this but the joe duffy show can actually be quite useful for showing up genuine wrongdoing that otherwise would have went unnoticed. it can really show up bad practice by the likes companies but obviously many callers ring in with pathetic "grievances" and ruin what is otherwise a decent concept

I seem to remember being vaguely impressed with Duffys crusade against some scam artist running a fake modelling agency a few years back come to think of it.

edit: and then feeling any respect I had for him diminsh hugely when he led the busybodies and aul ones on a tabloidish crusade against the head shops...

Hank_Jones

DrumSteve wrote: »

The Irony...

A typo, how ironic... :pac:

kfallon

Jeremy Kyle thought Straw Bear could win a Champion Hurdle....that's a prettty serious gambling problem tbh :D:D

Daisy Steiner

Ickle Magoo wrote: »

I think it's safe to say that the reason Jeremy Kyle is on during the day when most people are at work or in education is precisely because what is left at home is the minority demographic they are aiming at. If JK had a prime time slot and huge viewing figures, you'd have a point.

Please tell me you mean "those" not "what"

I'm at home because I can't find a job and I'm waiting to return to college in sept. There are thousands more who are at home with no job and are not as lucky as me who has college to look forward to next month.

Can you please tell me how we fit this "minority demographic" you speak of?

pickarooney

Daisy Steiner wrote: »

Please tell me you mean "those" not "what"

I'm at home because I can't find a job and I'm waiting to return to college in sept. There are thousands more who are at home with no job and are not as lucky as me who has college to look forward to next month.

Can you please tell me how we fit this "minority demographic" you speak of?

How would that sentence make any grammatical sense with "those"?
The minority demographic is, presumably, the <50% of adults with no day job.

stovelid

Daisy Steiner wrote: »

Can you please tell me how we fit this "minority demographic" you speak of?

You don't.

Now go out and mow the lawn or something. Do you think that fridge fills itself?

Nision

You think Joe Duffys bad, ever listened to Adrian Kennedy?

Makes Joe Duffy look intelligent.

Ickle Magoo

Daisy Steiner wrote: »

Please tell me you mean "those" not "what"

I'm at home because I can't find a job and I'm waiting to return to college in sept. There are thousands more who are at home with no job and are not as lucky as me who has college to look forward to next month.

Can you please tell me how we fit this "minority demographic" you speak of?

Are you in the UK? Were you in the UK with access to daytime television when the Jeremy Kyle show was first introduced? THAT would be their target demographic. It's not rocket science. :rolleyes:

Donkey Oaty

Ickle Magoo wrote: »

Are you in the UK? Were you in the UK with access to daytime television when the Jeremy Kyle show was first introduced? THAT would be their target demographic. It's not rocket science. :rolleyes:

Haven't seen the show for a while, but I always assumed Kyle fans were:

- People who may be entitled to compensation due to an injury at work;

- People who want to sell their gold;

- People who want to consolidate all their loans into one simple monthly repayment;

- People who want a big leather sofa now but don't want to have to pay for it for a year or two.

Ickle Magoo

Donkey Oaty wrote: »

Haven't seen the show for a while, but I always assumed Kyle fans were:

- People who may be entitled to compensation due to an injury at work;

- People who want to sell their gold;

- People who want to consolidate all their loans into one simple monthly repayment;

- People who want a big leather sofa now but don't want to have to pay for it for a year or two.

Having never seen it, I'll take your word on that.

DrumSteve

Hank_Jones wrote: »

A typo, how ironic... :pac:

Indeed...