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America to pull out of Iraq...

  • 02-08-2010 11:07pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,287 ✭✭✭


    and come on its t!ts....

    No really, the war is over (Unless of course you happen to be from Iraq).


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10839342


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    I can see this thread going well.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    What about Afghanistan. ANother 30000 troops. Who says the war is over.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,688 ✭✭✭Kasabian


    Did they run out of oil?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    orourkeda wrote: »
    What about Afghanistan. ANother 30000 troops. Who says the war is over.

    Here's what he says:
    "We face huge challenges in Afghanistan," said Mr Obama. "But it's important that the American people know that we are making progress and we're focused on goals that are clear and achievable."
    But some are saying Obama's plan to begin withdrawing troops in Afghanistan as early as next July could encourage the Taliban and other extremist groups.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,831 ✭✭✭genericguy


    but they haven't found the weapons of mass destruction yet!
    "We face huge challenges in Afghanistan," said Mr Obama. "But it's important that the American people know that we are making progress and we're focused on goals that are clear and achievable."

    why the american people give a fcuk is beyond me - i guarantee none of them know what the actual goal is in afghanistan.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    Here's what he says:


    What about:
    While the US has been scaling down its troop presence in Iraq it has been stepping up its military commitment to Afghanistan, with the president ordering a surge of 30,000 additional soldiers there


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 205 ✭✭hitbit


    Vietnam all over again. Start a war to satisfy the greed of the big industrialist weapons manufacturers. Send other peoples children to kill the children of other people. Make zillions of dollars for the click then withdraw leaving civil war whch continues for generations.

    hitbit


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    orourkeda wrote: »
    What about:

    What about them? They're there until the withdrawal, which should start next year.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,079 ✭✭✭questionmark?


    So there getting ready for extracting oil getting rid of the bold boys in Iran and mining minerals in North Korea.












    * Feck it DURKA DURKA MOHAMMAD JIHAD


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    What about them? They're there until the withdrawal, which should start next year.

    Theres 30000 more of them.

    Thats what about them


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,121 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    Out of the frying pan & into the fire


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,648 ✭✭✭token56


    They really should pull out. To be fair they've been pounding them good and solid for a few years now, can imagine it would have started hurting a long time ago.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,533 ✭✭✭Donkey Oaty


    orourkeda wrote: »
    Theres 30000 more of them.

    Thats what about them

    In Afghanistan. Do you welcome the plans for withdrawal from Iraq, or does it really not make any difference to you as long as Afghanistan is still on the go?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,394 ✭✭✭mojesius


    This is the equivalent of sh1tting all over your neighbour's garden and moving away when the smell becomes unbearable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    In Afghanistan. Do you welcome the plans for withdrawal from Iraq, or does it really not make any difference to you as long as Afghanistan is still on the go?

    I find it difficult to praise the withdrawal of troops from a war which should never have taken place and was supported by a sizable cross section of the american people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭Sea Sharp


    About time too.
    Now for Iran...


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 47,811 CMod ✭✭✭✭Black Swan


    WITHDRAWAL? That's hard for many Americans. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,572 ✭✭✭✭brummytom


    7 Years too late


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭Mrmoe


    IT's not really pulling out if you leave half of it inside, I think they will have around 50,000 troops present classified as non combattants


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,283 ✭✭✭Chorcai


    Anyone else snigger when they heard this ? I guess they learn nothing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,009 ✭✭✭✭Run_to_da_hills


    GaNjaHaN wrote: »
    About time too.
    Now for Iran...

    Preparing for World War III, Targeting Iran.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,593 ✭✭✭Sea Sharp


    Preparing for World War III, Targeting Iran.

    Just around the corner for the last 5 years. :pac:
    They wouldn't dare start WW3 as long as the interdependent global economy is somewhat in tact.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 241 ✭✭MrSir


    I think they've killed enough civilians to install their democracy anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 17,918 ✭✭✭✭orourkeda


    " Operation Iraqi Freedom "

    The sickest of sick jokes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    They're pulling out but leaving 50k troops there, and as someone on Newsnight said earlier the war is well along the process of being privatised, with plenty of paramilitaries staying on too.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    Been Laden has moved then :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,061 ✭✭✭✭Terry


    orourkeda wrote: »
    " Operation Iraqi Freedom "

    The sickest of sick jokes.

    Yeah. They should have stuck with the original name. "Operation Iraqi Liberation". It was funnier on so many levels.

    They need the troops to liberate North Korea and Iran.
    God bless America.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,390 ✭✭✭IM0


    Terry wrote: »
    God bless Americans.

    fyp.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭johndoe99


    there pulling out of Iraq so they can attack Korea


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    heh, "pull out"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭Mark200


    amacachi wrote: »
    They're pulling out but leaving 50k troops there

    The combat mission in Iraq will finish on the 31st of August. In other words, the war will be over. The 50k will remain in order to train the Iraqi police force to ensure the country doesn't plunge into a vacuum of power.

    When Obama announced his plans for Iraq well over a year ago, this is exactly what he said would happen... that the war will end on the 31st of August, with a force of 50k staying behind to train the Iraqis. The 50k troops also have a deadline, too.

    Here's an article from February 2009:

    http://www.smh.com.au/world/obamas-iraq-deadline-20090228-8krf.html
    "Let me say this as plainly as I can: by August 31, 2010 our combat mission in Iraq will end," Obama said, laying out a new war strategy at a Marines base in North Carolina.
    "I intend to remove all US troops from Iraq by the end of 2011," Obama said, adding the post-2010 interim force would number between 35,000 and 50,000 troops.

    As for more troops being sent into Afghanistan... well, that's exactly what he said he'd do during his Presidential campaign. The troops in Afghanistan also have a deadline. They will begin to withdraw in July 2011.

    The withdrawal in Iraq is not a knee-jerk reaction that was decided yesterday by the American Government. It is a campaign promise that Obama announced the details to 17 months ago (four weeks after becoming president), and it's only hitting the news again now because he gave a speech yesterday stating that the plan is on target.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,976 ✭✭✭Brendog


    "America to pull out of Iraq"






    and push into Igina


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,819 ✭✭✭speedboatchase


    The exact same people that are clamouring for America to pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan asap are the same people who will go nuts when all the people that joined the police forces and worked together in the new government are targeted once the Americans pull out. Afghanistan is far too precarious for the US to let fall fully back into the Taliban's hands but if it did, the same people decrying the occupation will decry when innocent people are killed after the US - and blame them for both.

    I don't support the Iraq War (I support the Afghanistan one though) but I don't think the country is in the position to fully pull out of either. And I find it strange that people joke about 'Iran/North Korea next...' - would you not support a unilateral, NATO approved regime change in some of these places? Or should we just let them to their devices, like we did with Rwanda?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,348 ✭✭✭KTRIC


    They haven't quite got the hang of Coitus interruptus have they ??

    Rumours are that they blew their load quite early :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,952 ✭✭✭Lando Griffin


    So the Iraquies have won the war.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 766 ✭✭✭Norwayviking


    davyjose wrote: »
    and come on its t!ts....

    No really, the war is over (Unless of course you happen to be from Iraq).


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/10839342

    Just another Vietnam i guess


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    johndoe99 wrote: »
    there pulling out of Iraq so they can attack Korea

    Why would you want to attack the current US "Bogeyman"? :confused: DPRK are serving their purpose for the US perfectly as is.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 766 ✭✭✭Norwayviking


    johndoe99 wrote: »
    there pulling out of Iraq so they can attack Korea

    No they are pulling out because they need some help cleaning the beaches after the oilspill in the gulf of mexico.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,315 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Mark200 wrote: »
    The 50k will remain in order to train the Iraqi police force to ensure the country doesn't plunge into a vacuum of power.
    If wikileaks is anything to go by, when the US leaves, they'll be swimming up sh|t creek killing each other with the paddles.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,536 ✭✭✭Mark200


    the_syco wrote: »
    If wikileaks is anything to go by, when the US leaves, they'll be swimming up sh|t creek killing each other with the paddles.

    Wikileaks didn't publish anything that wasn't already known by the public.

    Also, what they released was related to the Afghan war, not the Iraq war. My statement that you were replying to was clearly about the Iraq war.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,315 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    Mark200 wrote: »
    Wikileaks didn't publish anything that wasn't already known by the public.

    Also, what they released was related to the Afghan war, not the Iraq war. My statement that you were replying to was clearly about the Iraq war.
    Hrm, I see what you mean. I suppose I meant that in Afgan, for the past while, they are doing a good job, but the police are not liked. In Iraq, The Shi'ites are being trained to be Police and Military, and the Sunni have been trained as Police and Military. Once the US go, I can't see anything holding the Shi'ites back from dealing out whoop-ass, and the Sunni's from dealing serious whoop-ass, now that the US might has gone. I'll re-read this tomorrow to make sense of what I'm trying to say, as the mind is tired atm.


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