rules for L drivers

bingus666

Hi, am trying to get info on the rules for L drivers. Are they or are they not allowed to drive on their own? I cannot find any proper answers to this. What should one do when one sees an L driver constantly driving on their own? can one report them & if so how? I believe that it is illegal to drive alone as a L driver & also this individual is driving uninsured? is this true? cheers...

(this important link is broken: http://www.rulesoftheroad.ie/your-licence-and-vehicle/before-you-are-a-fully-licenced-driver/provisional-licence-holders.html)

Alanstrainor

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A learner driver must be accompanied by a fully licensed driver who has held their license for at least 2 years.
Driving unaccompanied does not mean you are driving uninsured; unless there is a specific exclusion from doing so in your policy document.

As for reporting learner drivers driving unaccompanied. I'd just mind my own business tbh. Not too sure who you'd report it to, i'm not too sure why you would either?

spurious

A person on a Learner Permit should be accompanied while driving by a person who holds a full licence and has held it for at least two years.

Whether they are insured or not while doing so, is a matter for the insurance companies, but I agree, as a fool who sticks to the regulations, it's galling to see other learners drive all over the place unaccompanied while I wait in (or pay for unnecessary 'lessons' with my ADI) because I cannot get an accompanying driver.

cosmic

Reporting them wouldn't really work, it would be extremely difficult to prove. Learner drivers who have L plates on their car often let friends/OHs/family members drive their car. What's to say it's actually a learner driving?

Mimikyu

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thebullkf

learner can drive unaccompanied on their 2nd. Provisional.


who're you reporting?


why?


none of your business really.


we're also the only country that lets you drive home afteryou fail your driving test....

bingus666

because just after coming into my cul de sac I had to swerve to avoid her as she was speeding out whilst yapping on her phone... so I'm to mind my own business? this young girl is a clear danger to herself & everyone around her if she cant even follow a few small rules as an Learner driver... this behaviour makes it my business & in the long run I'd be doing her a favour before she ruins someones life if not her own. thats why I would report it. simples.

bingus666

thebullkf wrote: »

learner can drive unaccompanied on their 2nd. Provisional.


actually, after reading it up on rsa.ie no matter how many Provisional Permits you have you are NOT allowed to drive unaccompanied as a Learner driver...

**Timbuk2**

bingus666 wrote: »

because just after coming into my cul de sac I had to swerve to avoid her as she was speeding out whilst yapping on her phone... so I'm to mind my own business? this young girl is a clear danger to herself & everyone around her if she cant even follow a few small rules as an Learner driver... this behaviour makes it my business & in the long run I'd be doing her a favour before she ruins someones life if not her own. thats why I would report it. simples.

How do you know that she is a learner? I have a full licence, but my twin brother is learning to drive in my car, and is on a learner permit. I leave the L-Plates on when I drive (they are a pain to take off and put back on) so it would appear that I am an L-Driver, even though I'm not.

thebullkf

do you report every1 you see on a mobile phone??

theres a lot more to this story than meets the eye...

have you approached her?



you sound like a nasty person.


swings and roundabouts.

thebullkf

question answered.

thread should be locked.

monkeypants

thebullkf wrote: »

learner can drive unaccompanied on their 2nd. Provisional.

That changed a couple of years ago. Now you cannot drive on your own unless you have a full licence.

bingus666

thebullkf, you have no idea who I am, so quit your finger pointing & no I dont fooking report everyone on a moblie ffs whats your beef? if youve nothing good to say then say nothing at all... maybe read up on the rules yourself? ya seem to be lagging behind there a bit...

believe me I know its her car & she is the learner... So my point being I'm to mind my own business even though she's an illegal driver & dangerous at that? There are kids around here, if I have to avoid her side swipping me cause she's on her phone then god help any of the kids around here...

Posy

But she would have to actually be caught in the act of driving to prove it; otherwise it'd just be your word against hers so there is no point in reporting her.

johnmcdnl

thebullkf wrote: »

learner can drive unaccompanied on their 2nd. Provisional.

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not since june 30 2008 google tells me... unless you have a full license you have to be accompanied by a fully licensed driver who's had there license for at least 2 years - that's the law anyways but i'm unsure about the insurance end of it...

mathepac

bingus666 wrote: »

because just after coming into my cul de sac I had to swerve to avoid her as she was speeding out whilst yapping on her phone...

Report her for dangerous driving.

"The Garda Traffic Watch hotline allows you report incidents of dangerous driving to the Gardai so that the drivers can be intercepted, cautioned and brought through the courts process. The Garda Traffic Watch hotline is contactable by telephone at 1890 205 805."

From http://www.citizensinformation.ie/categories/justice/law_enforcement/reporting-a-crime

thebullkf

my bad.

i didn't know theychanged it.

point is Op's looking to punish in a sly non confrontational way ie the fact is she's on a phone whilst dtriving.L plates have nowt to do with it.(methinks)

OP:if there were no L plates on display would you still report....

EDIT: forghettaboutit.:rolleyes:

bingus666

yeah thouht of that alright, wasnt sure though whether this hotline was for this particular reason or not. Cheers all (except thebullkf, seems like a know it all twit!)

bingus666

thebullkf wrote: »

my bad.

i didn't know theychanged it.

point is Op's looking to punish in a sly non confrontational way ie the fact is she's on a phone whilst dtriving.L plates have nowt to do with it.(methinks)

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you think wrong! am looking to report dangerous driving any way that is possible. now I know thanks to readers giving a proper answer to a proper question...

thebullkf

bingus666 wrote: »

thebullkf wrote: »

my bad.

i didn't know theychanged it.

point is Op's looking to punish in a sly non confrontational way ie the fact is she's on a phone whilst dtriving.L plates have nowt to do with it.(methinks)

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you think wrong! am looking to report dangerous driving any way that is possible. now I know thanks to readers giving a proper answer to a proper question...

really????


why not ring the Gardaí when you had to swerve??

no..you tried to figure out if you could report her for driving on L plates,a different matter altogether.
ie slyly.
why not confront the offender?.isn't she a neighbour living in your cul de sac?

(or at least there fairly regularly,otherwise you wouldn't be able to report her)

your OP was answered already.

gerroff the soapbox:rolleyes:

thebullkf

bingus666 wrote: »

yeah thouht of that alright, wasnt sure though whether this hotline was for this particular reason or not. Cheers all (except thebullkf, seems like a know it all twit!)

your real beef seems to be that she was on the phone.
i don't agree with her/condone her behaviour ffs.
i don't condone yours either btw.

don't bring kids into it when challengedabout your real motive's.


post reported for personal abuse.

Alanstrainor

Deep breaths lads. Warning given for personal abuse for the below post.

bingus666 wrote: »

yeah thouht of that alright, wasnt sure though whether this hotline was for this particular reason or not. Cheers all (except thebullkf, seems like a know it all twit!)

If you are going to report her for anything it's dangerous driving. Simple as.

The Garda Traffic Watch hotline allows you report incidents of dangerous driving to the Gardai so that the drivers can be intercepted, cautioned and brought through the courts process. The Garda Traffic Watch hotline is contactable by telephone at 1890 205 805.