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Quick question about Nunchaku...

  • 02-08-2010 12:53pm
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 69 ✭✭


    I'm not sure where this would go,but I figured it would suit here.

    ANYWAY...


    You know how samurai swords are illegal now?

    Well what about nunchaku? Are they illegal too or what?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    You know how samurai swords are illegal now?

    They aren't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 69 ✭✭wahmeister666


    Bambi wrote: »
    They aren't.

    What was the big fuss thrown about them then a while back?

    They are banned,google it. Look up the law.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 69 ✭✭wahmeister666


    Alright,found my answer,it is illegal to even own Nunchaku,let alone carry them on you in Ireland (I kinda figured though,if it was gonna be the same as the sword law)

    Anyway,**** it...I'll just make some ha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    throw up the a link to the legislation that makes samurai sword's and nunchaku illegal.


    here's a helping hand:

    http://www.justice.ie/en/JELR/Offensive%20Weapons%20Order%202009.pdf/Files/Offensive%20Weapons%20Order%202009.pdf


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 138 ✭✭corkma


    http://www.irishstatutebook.ie/2009/en/si/0338.html
    this a statutory instrument which relates to 1990 act. it gives a definition of a katana. I need to read the act but I assume the definition is needed to clear up something banned in the act


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 138 ✭✭corkma


    it seems say that you need a good reason to possess anything that could be considered a weapon. its very late to be reading legislation, but the statute book is aa handy tool if ye wanna find out


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭yomchi


    It all means squat, I gave first aid to a lad last month in town who was stabbed through the ribs with a biro. With the right intention you could be battered to death with a laptop.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,720 ✭✭✭Sid_Justice


    wow fair play jon hope the guy was 'ok'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 138 ✭✭corkma


    ya, if you want to you're gonna make a weapon out of anything. Pint glasses and bottles are never going to be prohibited


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,621 ✭✭✭yomchi


    wow fair play jon hope the guy was 'ok'.

    Na you don't! :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 69 ✭✭wahmeister666


    corkma wrote: »
    it seems say that you need a good reason to possess anything that could be considered a weapon. its very late to be reading legislation, but the statute book is aa handy tool if ye wanna find out

    Cheers for that. I assumed that,its all usually just the same crap that "you cannot have it on your person/cannot import,etc

    But like someone else said,anything can be a weapon if you want it to be,so these acts,laws or whatever are kind of pointless,its just because they are CLASSED as weapons I reckon. Whereas the likes of a pen or pint glass...are not...but could be used as one...so I think its a flawed act/law.

    Wanted to buy 2 sets of decorated nunchaku,saw some online,with a fancy design on them,would be nice to have 2 sets hanging on the wall as decoration haha


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,188 ✭✭✭Doug Cartel


    But like someone else said,anything can be a weapon if you want it to be,so these acts,laws or whatever are kind of pointless,its just because they are CLASSED as weapons I reckon. Whereas the likes of a pen or pint glass...are not...but could be used as one...so I think its a flawed act/law.

    The thing about things like nunchucks and other ninja style weapons, is that they have no use as anything other than a weapon (no, you're not going to use them as farm tools and if you want to use them for weapons-forms, get something made out of plastic.)

    Knives on the other hand, while very deadly are also very useful tools. No nunchucks = no big deal, no knives, glasses or pens = living in the stone age.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Anyone found any legislation regarding the banning of nunchaku then?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 479 ✭✭Furious-Dave


    Bambi wrote: »
    Anyone found any legislation regarding the banning of nunchaku then?

    Well, here are the links to the Firearms and Offensive Weapons Act, 1990
    (I don't know if there are any further amendments to this act, but I'll have a look)

    http://www.bailii.org/ie/legis/num_reg/1991/0066.html

    http://www.bailii.org/ie/legis/num_act/1990/0012.html#zza12y1990

    The first link lists the weapons covered by the act. And the second is the act itself. There's no mention of nunchaku, but it does list manrikigusari, which seems to be similar.

    Anyway, any legislation anyone might be looking for go to www.irishlaw.org or www.bailii.org.

    Addition: On further reading of the above act, I'm fairly certain that nunchaku would be considered covered by the description of manrikigusari (letter 'O' under the first link):

    "a length of rope, cord, wire or chain fastened at each end to a hard weight or hand grip"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 138 ✭✭corkma


    If you're not a criminal and own them the cops aren't going to come looking for them. if you use them on someone there could be trouble, if u practice Katas there probably won't.
    A lot of the weapons legislation is a pointless response to the media. There's a pointless piece of law that relates to syringes. At the time there was a lot of talk about syringe attacks. The legislation doesnt change the existing laws on assault. Lawyers researched it and found that syringe attacks aren't even that common but they were trendy to write about


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,191 ✭✭✭Unpossible


    Sorry to hijack the thread but I have one or two questions for a visiting demo team.
    The last group brought sparring (foam) nunchaku here from Finland and didn't have any problem. But one of the next guys wants to bring an aluminium pair so we wanted to know if he will be ok bringing those in.

    Also he has an aluminum practice katana. Its not steel and its blunt, but I told him I wasn't sure if it would be legal. Do any of you know if he will be alowed bring this to Ireland with him? Or will it depend on wether or not the customs officer realises its not real ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 346 ✭✭Martin25


    It should be banned because its a a pretty useless weapon.
    Just my opinion of course!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Martin25 wrote: »
    It should be banned because its a a pretty useless weapon.
    Just my opinion of course!

    I thought that too till i sparred against a set of FOAM ones. Flexible weapons are way underrated


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 346 ✭✭Martin25


    One of the problems is that you have to "load them up" and this wastes time


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