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Everest

  • 02-08-2010 5:03am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35


    Hi Guys

    I am hoping to climb Mt Everest next year for a charity called moving mountains and in doing so be the first sligoman to set foot on the summit (to my knowledge). Such is the cost of an expedition to Everest i am looking for sponsorship.

    I was wondering if anyone here knows of any companies in Sligo who would be willing/able to help fund this?. I know this is a bad time to seeking sponsorship but it is for a great cause.

    Thanks

    Henry

    http://www.movingmountains.org.uk/


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,085 ✭✭✭Xiney


    see, I really don't get all these adventuring charity things.

    Do you really care about the charity or are you just trying to get an excuse and money to climb everest?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 557 ✭✭✭Gipo3


    I dont see the point in looking for advice here going by the above reply. Obviously the moderator thinks your in this for your own benefit. All id say is just look into all the companies you can. Best of luck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,085 ✭✭✭Xiney


    I'm not a moderator of the Sligo forum. Here I'm the same as any other poster.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,646 ✭✭✭✭Sauve


    How about trying to get 'Call of the Wild' behind you? They've just moved premises so might be willing to make some sort of feature out of you doing this.....worth a try anyway, I think the owners' name in there is Eoin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,134 ✭✭✭FarmerGreen


    elprez wrote: »
    Hi Guys

    Such is the cost of an expedition to Everest i am looking for sponsorship.
    >but it is for a great cause.
    >Thanks
    Henry
    http://www.movingmountains.org.uk/

    Its going to cost 50 grand isnt it.
    And the great cause is you climb Everest. At no expense to you.
    Despicable, I'd say.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 382 ✭✭tedshredsonfire


    Fks sake if the charity makes money and yer man gets to acomplish a dream wheres the losers? Win win I say and fk the begreudgers elprez. You might have a better chance of getting a small amount of money off a lot of people instead of a big amount off a few in the present climate.
    Also if you get someone like call of the wild say you will update their facebook/blog page on the weeks preceeding, during and after the event with training, prep etc so they see they are getting more for it. See if some of the media will give you a space in the weekender or champion etc as they are usually hungry for stories and then see if they will syndicate them out to their sister publications and a weekly spot in a paper will give you a lot more leverage with a sponser.

    Above all good luck and well done on taking up the challenge.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 elprez


    Firstly I would like to thank those who responded positively to this post. I am a mountaineer with over fifteen years experience and if could afford to this on my own I wouldnt be looking for sponsorship. I have never done an adventure charity trip before and it was only after that I mentenioned in work that I had been accepted onto a team to go to everest that they suggested I do it for charity. In 2004 while travelling through africa I was with moving mountains there I have seen first hand the great work they are doing so for that reason I couldnt think of a btter cause.
    Lets be clear here I earned my place on the team I am not some rich guy who will have a sherpa drag my ass up the peak. I have had this dream since i was 11.

    I know Eoin in call of the wild and he is going to help me with getting some of the eqipment.

    I think this a great operttunity for local business to get some exposure on a bigger scale and add a Sligomans name to list of people who attemped this great mountain.
    My intention on the mountain is to use the likes of facebook and twitter to update my progress and possible a phone in to ocean fm as well.
    I will submit an articale to the champion and the weekender.

    The actual cost of the expedition is €30,000 for those you who think its despicable.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    I would advise anybody working with or for charities which donate aid to Africa to read this book, 'Dead Aid: Why Aid is Not Working and How there is a Better Way for Africa', by Dambisa Moyo.

    It outlines how, as aid to Africa has increased over the past decades, poverty, starvation & crime have actually increased as a direct result of it, how aid dependancy has caused more problems than it has solved & how the developed world uses aid as a tool to control Africa's policies & essentially rape the continent of many of it's natural resources.

    A lot of the time, charity work is well intentioned, sometimes it even helps, but in many other cases it does more harm than good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,589 ✭✭✭Hail 2 Da Chimp


    elprez wrote: »
    Firstly I would like to thank those who responded positively to this post. I am a mountaineer with over fifteen years experience and if could afford to this on my own I wouldnt be looking for sponsorship.

    Best of luck with it elprez.
    Sounds like you're legit, I'd recommend pm-ing a moderator about removing the off topic, condescending posts. Report any posts which are offensive / off topic.

    I'll be keeping track of your progress :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,134 ✭✭✭FarmerGreen


    Each man to his own greed and conscience.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 451 ✭✭Cool Running


    Fair play elprez,

    Best of luck with it. It would be some achievement. To some of people giving out I mean surely if these trips etc are raising money for charity then its hardly a bad thing. Maybe some of these people are jealous.

    Good luck with it anyways let us know how it goes

    I would advise anybody working with or for charities which donate aid to Africa to read this book, 'Dead Aid: Why Aid is Not Working and How there is a Better Way for Africa', by Dambisa Moyo.
    QUOTE]

    Had a look at that summary, very interesting. Seems about right! It can be very difficult to distribute the funds properly


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 198 ✭✭coolegrain


    i think it is superb...although i have no money, i'll donate whatever i can....would love to meet you as well to shake your hand and wish you good luck.....it's amazing what you'll do if you make it up...fair play and the very best of luck...really looking forward to following this.
    is there a page set up yet for yourself?...facebook / twitter etc ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,469 ✭✭✭guinnessdrinker


    I would like to follow your progress with this also, best of luck!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,134 ✭✭✭FarmerGreen


    Its pretty much a walk up.
    Japanese tourists, blind men and cripples survive the trip.
    Unless the weather changes.
    R.I.P. Leigh Mallory
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Mallory


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,797 ✭✭✭bobcar61


    Its pretty much a walk up.
    Japanese tourists, blind men and cripples survive the trip.
    Unless the weather changes.
    R.I.P. Leigh Mallory
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Mallory

    Seriously FarmerGreen there is no need for your smart remarks. If it's pretty much just a walk then I'd like to see you do it. If it's just a walk up then I'm sure you wouldn't need to train or anything for it. Maybe if you did it and didn't train for it we might see your name followed by RIP.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 382 ✭✭tedshredsonfire


    Unless the weather changes.
    R.I.P. Leigh Mallory
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Mallory

    I have heard it can do that on everest from time to time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 432 ✭✭Glenalla


    I would happily donate if you paid for your own expedition and didnt use monies people believed they had donated to charity to fund your adventure. However since you are collecting to fund your holiday then "I'm out!!!"


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭paky


    OP how much would it cost to climb everest without the charity?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,731 ✭✭✭alex73


    elprez wrote: »
    Hi Guys

    I am hoping to climb Mt Everest next year for a charity called moving mountains and in doing so be the first sligoman to set foot on the summit (to my knowledge). Such is the cost of an expedition to Everest i am looking for sponsorship.

    I was wondering if anyone here knows of any companies in Sligo who would be willing/able to help fund this?. I know this is a bad time to seeking sponsorship but it is for a great cause.

    Thanks

    Henry

    http://www.movingmountains.org.uk/


    Its going to cost the "Charity" the guts of 30K for you to climb Mt. Everest. Plus the added risk, 3% of People who climb Mt. Everest die. So if you are married with Kids... your life insurance is null and void..

    I think if you want to climb it for charity then do it on your own steam and get sponsorship, write a book, get the media behind you. I never give money to charities where the person is going on a walk in Brazil (aka a holiday) Running a marathon in Ireland for charity yes.. Climbing Everest is just too extravagant and a waste of money. However if you want to have it as a personal achievement in your life then you should pay.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 198 ✭✭coolegrain


    you have to pay their government for a permit to climb it, right ?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,731 ✭✭✭alex73


    Forgot to add... You should lead by example, if you really believe in your charity then put your money where your mouth is, If you were paying 100% for the expedition and the money people were giving went 100% to the charity I would not have a problem. What I hate are the charity beggers like you would expect the trip paid and only a portion (usually 30%) goes to charity.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 elprez


    Its not costing the charity anything for the climb. I will be covering half the cost out of my own pocket. I am not asking odinary punters to pay for my holiday. I was just looking to see if any local bucinesses would be interested in sponsoring a climb on everest as I think it would good PR for them.
    Once agin I would like to thank those who posted here whishing me good luck.

    The majority of people climbing everest these days seek sponsorship and dont do it for charity. What I want to do is fly the sligo flag from the summit and raise money for a great cause

    Paky it cost €30,000 euro to climb everest it is not costing the caherty a penny.

    If I was married and had kids I wouldnt be doing this

    If I secure the funds I will post links to the facebook and twitter pages so people can follow my progress


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,731 ✭✭✭alex73


    elprez wrote: »
    Its not costing the charity anything for the climb. I will be covering half the cost out of my own pocket.

    So who is paying the other half 15K? Would it not be better to give that Money to charity than to pay for your climb?

    Nobel adventure.. but not at my expense.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 198 ✭✭coolegrain


    i think it's superb he is doing it....i cant wait to shake the mans hand and wish him luck...
    as for the money, i have no problem with it...he's not hiding anything, and the cost of the climb, which isnt exactly money which will go into a conservatory for his house or anything, is being openly discussed by him...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,646 ✭✭✭✭Sauve


    Congrats Elprez,
    glad to hear you're doing something proactive!
    Best of luck with the sponsorship, I'll be looking out for you in the papers :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 771 ✭✭✭dardevle


    elprez wrote: »
    Its not costing the charity anything for the climb. I will be covering half the cost out of my own pocket. I am not asking odinary punters to pay for my holiday.

    not really following the math on this one... if you are paying half the cost and the charity are not paying anything, are you saying the half that is fundraised by piggybacking a charity is not really a cost?:cool:

    the bottom line is that a significant amount of money raised in the name of charities, by dream ventures such as this, goes to someone not directly involved with the charity,

    not where i want to see my contributions going but all the same good luck with the climb.





    ....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 382 ✭✭tedshredsonfire


    Heres a mad idea lads, stay with its a bit complicated, if you have a problem with the concept then don't contribute a donation. The difference here betweeen this guys and a chugger is he is being totally upfront about whats involved and costs etc.
    Go on elprez and best of luck with it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,797 ✭✭✭bobcar61


    I don't think it's a bad idea but i can't imagine any local business donating €30,000 or even €15,000 for this especially not in these economic times. They would be thinking about how long it would take for them to earn it back and it'd be a long wait I'd say.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 706 ✭✭✭MoonDancer


    Just want to say good luck with the climb, you have my support.
    I can't believe some of these posts here.....


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,134 ✭✭✭FarmerGreen




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 833 ✭✭✭daingeanrob


    best of luck elprez, if any of you knew this guy and i suspect i do, they would know him and his family as tireless youth leaders and for what it's worth i hope you put a 2nd/3rd sligo flag up there henry!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 elprez


    thanks daingeanrob I will be taking my old 3rd Sligo neckerchief with me. Just to give all an update, I have decided to postpone untill 2012 as I feel i do not have enough time to get the finances together. I would like to tahnk all of you who supported me so far and I will post the link when the website is up and running.

    As for 2011 Gavin is still going for the summit next year for his charity moving mountains, if anyone would to donate to the charity the web address is on the original post.

    Farmer Green you made your point in your original post that you think this is a useless endeavor. I respect your opinion but to carry like you have is quite childish and pathetic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭cloneslad


    I don't think any of the begrudgers here get what the O.P is asking here. Let me try break it down easily for you all.

    He wants to do the climb for charity.

    He is going to pay 50% (15k)

    He wants sponsorship from businesses for the other 50%

    These businesses will do it not for the charitable effort but for the exposure / publicity they will get out of it.

    Random people can also make donations too. These donations can go towards the charity perhaps a small amount to the climb.

    The charity pays nothing to the O.P but they get a hell of a lot of exposure. An Irishman climbs everest? he will get national and local coverage and every article will mention the charity's name. Thus publicising it and making the public aware of it. (something charities spend a fortune on each year)

    Heck, even this thread has publicised the charity about 4/5 times and I've become aware of the charity's name and how it carried out good work in africa.

    Good luck with it O.P. I hope it goes well for you (and you get to do it in 2012)

    It's certainly not a just a little walk up a hill. Check out the discovery channel series on it for a bit more information...even if it is slightly dramatised


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 771 ✭✭✭dardevle


    cloneslad wrote: »

    Random people can also make donations too. These donations can go towards the charity perhaps a small amount to the climb.




    perhaps you don't get it... let me break it down for you...i have no wish to give money to charity and then find that any amount of it has gone on fulfilling the dream of anybody wanting to climb a mountain, trek nepal, or walk the great wall of china etc etc ... here's an idea... raise ALL the money you need to climb the mountain yourself, then get corporate sponsorship and random contributions from others, which can all go to charitable causes if people so wish, in the full knowledge that all their donations will go to charity..... op gets to climb a mountain-corporate get the exposure- charity get the money... everyones a winner.





    .......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,583 ✭✭✭cloneslad


    corporate sponsorship is not being sought for the charity, it's being sought to help cover some of his expenses. In return the company gets publicity.

    If you want money to go directly to the people in need then you will have to go to the destination you want to give your money too and hand it out yourself because at the very least 5-10% of every charitable donation will get lost to pay for admin and others working for the charity.


    If the O.P was coming in here asking us all for money to help support his charity but was secretly spending it on a trip somewhere then it would be dishonest. He didn't do that, he said

    Such is the cost of an expedition to Everest i am looking for sponsorship.

    I was wondering if anyone here knows of any companies in Sligo who would be willing/able to help fund this?.

    he didn't ask you or I for money. He asked for corporate sponsorship. he also included a link to the charity to give it some exposure too.

    Fair play O.P. Don't worry about the begrudgers. I'm guessing most could not get to the top of summerhill let alone mount everest.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 382 ✭✭tedshredsonfire


    +1
    And its usually a lot more than 5-10%. Some CEOs of charitys make 6 figure salaries.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 wjc


    Best of luck! Really envy you. Follow your dreams and go for it! Can't believe some of the posts on here. Anybody who thinks this is easy is kidding themselves!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 elprez


    Hi Guys
    I will soon have an update on the plans for everest in 2012


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 833 ✭✭✭daingeanrob


    best of luck lad!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 elprez


    Thanks very much


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