The Deadliest Foe?

Ginja Ninja

So,if it came down to it,which "breed" of zombies would you leat want to be up against?

Shamblers-Zombie Survival Guide

Sprinters-28 Days later Franchise

"Smart" zombies-Dawn of the Dead["and of the deads"]

Living Dead-Resident Evil


who would you least like to survive against? and why?

Kess73

Shamblers

Sprinters a la the Dawn Of The Dead remake would be very hard to counter. Very hard to build new defences against them too. Any noise would bring them to you enmasse and at pace. Plus with the extra speed that they have over a shuffler, a number of sprinters would take down barriers very quickly with their constant pounding.


Killing them would be more difficult as well. Their sheer speed and aggression would make the shooter more nervous, and it is much much harder to get a clean headshot on a quick moving target. Engaging them with blunt objects at close quarters would be a no no.

c - 13

other type[explain]

Smart Zombies - (Either shambling or Sprinting) the living dead with memories of life - double the threat as they remember how to use tools or can plot and out-think survivors, many of whom won't be thinking straight anyway due to the panic.

Kess73

Shamblers

c - 13 wrote: »

Smart Zombies - (Either shambling or Sprinting) the living dead with memories of life - double the threat as they remember how to use tools or can plot and out-think survivors, many of whom won't be thinking straight anyway due to the panic.

Yeah but if they can think, then they become predictable and less random in their actions. Plus if they are shufflers with the ability to think somewhat they can get frustrated as Bub did from time to time.

Kromdar

Shamblers

sprinters. beacuse they have increased overall strength for an unlimited amount of time. whereas [as mentioned above] a shambler has the power to shamble, assuming that power, or lack thereof, translates to their arms, they will take a long time to defeat a barricade; their sprinting counterparts will be able to demolish it in no time.

smart zombies are a bit of a threat, but not too much. if they're as smart as your average criminal, current security systems could keep them out. closing a door might deter a shambler, but if you lock it from the inside, even smart zombies cant do much, short of trying to break through a glass area or finding an alternate entrance. a smart sprinter would be lethal, but would still fall under the classification of sprinter. however if they do remember anything from their life, it could prove dangerous when hiding out in a building, if say, an employee of the building would know and remember all of the possible entrances. also reanimates soldiers potentially remembering how to use their guns.

other types i would be concerned about are mutants and while unlikely, should the outbreak be from a bio-weapon, the possibility of some sort of super-soldier like abomination would certainly make me want to loot some new boxers :pac:

ScumLord

I don't believe in running Zombies or any sort of Zombies that display any super human ability's what so ever. Smart Zombies are an abomination against Christ and everything that's right in the world.

The infected from the 28 series wouldn't be able to run around like they do for more than 24 hours without ripping their bodies to pieces so while they may be the most terrifying and dangerous if your away from the action and have a safe place to hide it would be over pretty quickly as they do die.

Kess73

Shamblers

ScumLord wrote: »

I don't believe in running Zombies or any sort of Zombies that display any super human ability's what so ever. Smart Zombies are an abomination against Christ and everything that's right in the world.

The infected from the 28 series wouldn't be able to run around like they do for more than 24 hours without ripping their bodies to pieces so while they may be the most terrifying and dangerous if your away from the action and have a safe place to hide it would be over pretty quickly as they do die.

Of course the 28 Days/Weeks infected could run when they have to chase prey. They were not undead, they were not zombies. They were still living humans so the ability to run and chase is available to them for as long as they can feed.

They only ran when they were chasing something, when not chasing anything, they went back to moving at walking pace or staying still.

piby

other type[explain]

I was going to say sprinters but then I started thinking about intelligent zombies. I mean how smart are we talking here? Nemesis and the Tyrant from RE were seriously smart and you know they wouldn't need to be sprinters if they could use tools and vehicles etc.

Human beings no longer fear zombies because they have something worse to fear; zombies in F-14's

Kess73

Shamblers

piby wrote: »

I was going to say sprinters but then I started thinking about intelligent zombies. I mean how smart are we talking here? Nemesis and the Tyrant from RE were seriously smart and you know they wouldn't need to be sprinters if they could use tools and vehicles etc.

Human beings no longer fear zombies because they have something worse to fear; zombies in F-14's

Yeah but neither Nemesis nor pretty much all the various Tyrants were undead, and they defo are not zombies. They were almost all, if not all, bio-engineered humans or bio experiments with either brain implants or parasitic organisms to control or enhance intelligence.

I think smart zombies would peak at the levels shown by Bub in the original Day Of The Dead, and as their bodies decayed, their brain functions would go the same way.

Mahatma coat

I still hold that Other Humans are gonna be yer most difficult foe for Scarce resources, that said, Smart Zombies would be rather problematic too.

I'm kinda distracted by the thought that if as a Zom ya could retain or enhance yer sentience or strength or longevity it wouldn't be THAT Horrific an experience to munch yer way through the annoyin neighbours

Daniel2oo9

Shamblers

Deifinitly sprinters!
First post here!

ScumLord

Kess73 wrote: »

Of course the 28 Days/Weeks infected could run when they have to chase prey. They were not undead, they were not zombies. They were still living humans so the ability to run and chase is available to them for as long as they can feed.

They only ran when they were chasing something, when not chasing anything, they went back to moving at walking pace or staying still.

The fact they are just living people makes them more prone to human physical limits. It takes months of training for an athlete to run around like that. A normal person can get the fight or flight dump of adrenaline that will allow them to have that sudden burst of speed but the reason you can't do it all the time is because it does damage to the muscles in your body.

They run like that more than a few times and they'll have destroyed their muscle tissue so with in a day or two of running around like that, which they would be in the beginning when there's prey to follow they'd be physically damaged internally.

There's nothing wrong with saying they'll go berserk like that, it's been shown to happen due to illness but it could only be short lived, without the proper intake of food and restraint they would be in bits fairly quick. Which would leave you with the classic shambler if they didn't die.

cyberwolf77

other type[explain]

Smart zombies scare me the worst. All it takes is one with some small edge over the rest to organize a horde to come after me and I am dead. The rest I can devise ways to counter if needed

Scarydoll

Shamblers

I was torn between sprinters and the smart ones. I went with sprinters.

Kess73

Shamblers

ScumLord wrote: »

The fact they are just living people makes them more prone to human physical limits. It takes months of training for an athlete to run around like that. A normal person can get the fight or flight dump of adrenaline that will allow them to have that sudden burst of speed but the reason you can't do it all the time is because it does damage to the muscles in your body.

They run like that more than a few times and they'll have destroyed their muscle tissue so with in a day or two of running around like that, which they would be in the beginning when there's prey to follow they'd be physically damaged internally.

There's nothing wrong with saying they'll go berserk like that, it's been shown to happen due to illness but it could only be short lived, without the proper intake of food and restraint they would be in bits fairly quick. Which would leave you with the classic shambler if they didn't die.

Did not work that way in the 28 Day/Week films though, nor did it work that way in the graphic novels that were made to link the time between the two films and that layed down what is canon for the infected in terms of their physiology. They don't become classic shamblers at any point. If they feed they can still move within the limits of their original fitness levels and if they don't feed, they starve and die like any other living creature. Plus they receive stronger doses of adrenaline when they see a potential victim due to the effects of the rage virus.

The graphic novel (and the films to a degree) showed that they did not run around full pelt all the time, and only in bursts. Most of their time is spend at either walking pace or resting until the next bit of prey crosses their path again.


The DOTD remake's sprinters fall into line with what you are saying alright though. Going by some of the interviews with Snyder, his sprinters do break down over time and revery to being shamblers once a combination of wear and tear and natural decay kicks in. So just as in the Morningstar saga books, the zeds start off briefly as sprinters and then go to being shufflers. But then again they are not living so a natural decay is expected.

ScumLord

Kess73 wrote: »

If they feed they can still move within the limits of their original fitness levels and if they don't feed, they starve and die like any other living creature.

Do they eat normal food or are they supposed to be getting the nutrition from human flesh? I wouldn't think human flesh would give them the nutrition they need to run around like that, it's also going to make them even more sick. It can take days to recover from over exertion, it literally rips your muscles apart when you do it and you need the right type of nutrition and rest to repair the damage.

Kess73

Shamblers

ScumLord wrote: »

Do they eat normal food or are they supposed to be getting the nutrition from human flesh? I wouldn't think human flesh would give them the nutrition they need to run around like that, it's also going to make them even more sick. It can take days to recover from over exertion, it literally rips your muscles apart when you do it and you need the right type of nutrition and rest to repair the damage.

Yes they get what they need from human flesh. Again how that works is explained in detail in the graphic novels that were agreed upon by Boyle. I am simply using the sources that are seen as canon for the 28 days/weeks infected.

But if you want to bring total real world limitations into it, then sprinters cannot exist, shufflers cannot exist, and Zeds full stop cannot exist, and we end up with nothing to talk about.:p

ScumLord

For me the only leap of faith is the Zombie virus, something which is within the realms of possibility, I don't really like the supernatural stuff at all.

Mahatma coat

See we've already come closer than I'd like with Zombie type viruses, CJD, the Human variant of BSE was skirtin a bit too close in my book

Kiith

Shamblers

Smart Zombies make my brain hurt.