Boobie (.)(.) traps

Shanewalsh

Was watching some cool videos on trip wires and boobie traps with grenades and mine and clays, has anyone ever attemped this? i am considering making a few myself?

swiftblade

I have seen someone use a remote control claymore. Was pretty neat.

Shanewalsh

That would be cool, i was thinking along the lines of getting fishing wire and something stirdy to hold the grenade while enough force was used to remove the pin. and adding some flour to my grenades for a laugh hahaha!

TheDoc

Seen a few good ones in my time.

The best would be a trip wire setup to a sonic screeching rape kit thingy that basicaly let the world and its mother know where you are.

And a second being a tripwire up to some mine that shot a load of flower and stuff out. I asked a marashll was it a hit and he said no, so on I went, not realising I was so clearly visible through the forest I was getting shot at elft right and centre.

Shanewalsh

hahah, well ya see i play in The Office Block so i am thinking of crafty places to put wire without causing injury if the wire failed and sent the player flying hahaha.

NakedDex

Traps are my thing. I'm allll about the devious stuff. Here's a quick run down.

Grenade traps (hand type):
Depending on the type of grenade you're using, this can be anywhere from the most effective to the most ridiculous. You won't realistically be able to set up a grenade with the pin just balanced in a manner that allows for the trip line to be taught enough to pull the pin out. Either stepping on said line will simply move the grenade or the line will be so slack it'll just give way.
Use a grenade with a spoon and a small cylinder. Tornado grenades with the spoon kit have it handy, in that a food tin (like those used for beans, soup etc) is the perfect set up device. Simply place the grenade in the can, pull the pin and tie your trip line to the grenades spoon. The victim, by standing on the line, will pull the grenade out of it's can, releasing the spoon and firing the grenade.
Zoxna grenades, and other brands, will work with this method also, but a tin can will usually be too big.
Tornado also have proper "Bouncing Betty" kit for their grenades that spring the grenade from a ground-spike to about 3 feet in the air before it sets off, as well as an impact trip kit which is great for leaving on the back of door handles etc, where it will fire the second it hits the ground (creative use of this could have the grenade placed precariously balanced in a room, with someone with a clear shot of it from a safe distance outside/in another room. Wait for your opponents to enter, fire at the grenade to knock it off the platform and high tail it before anyone knows what happened).

Be acutely aware of the timer on your grenades. If they're not going to set off for four seconds after being tripped, there's no point in using them. The faster the fire, the better.



Grenade traps (40mm type):
These can take a little more trickiness to set up, so unless you've got plenty of time, don't bother.
Using an M203 and some strong line as your trip line, it's possible to rig this up to your M203's trigger in such a way that stepping on, or pulling on, the line will fire the grenade. To do so, you need to add an extra stake to the side-and-behind of the M203 trigger to act sort of like a pulley. This reverses the direction of the line pull when stepped on and will act to pull the trigger closed. The line must be very taught to achieve this though, so be aware of that during set up.
An alternative option is simply to purchase the 40mm trap kits. I think Airsoft Scotland had them, last I looked. Essentially they're a holder for a 40mm grenade with a sprung firing pin. Stepping on the trip line releases the firing pin, striking the back of the grenade and setting off a cloud of white plastic doom. Far easier, but not everyone wants to spend money on these things given their limited use.



Mines (Claymore):
ACM Claymores are relatively cheap, however, they're also relatively rubbish. They're finnicky to load, unreliable in both trip-line and remote control modes and generally not worth the hassle.
Gamma Claymores, on the other hand, are actually rather fantastic. Long range radio trigger reception, simple and effective trip line mech, exceptionally easy loading and 100% reliable. They are, however, ridiculous money. Mine set me back €200 including shipping and customs. It's worked brilliantly every time, but the price put a kicker in my plans to get four.
If you want a claymore bad enough, get the Gamma ones. The ACM ones simply aren't worth it.



Mines (Surface Landmine):
Madbull do a powdershot CO2 landmine for pretty cheap money. They're tidy and easy to carry (I generally keep four in a medic pouch). Unless you declare to everyone that you're going to be using them, there's no point in carrying them. Whatever about not taking a hit, when people step on these they're not even sure what has happened and, often, simply carry on.
Gas them, fill them with some flour/French chalk/powdered sugar etc and lay them in grassy areas with high traffic (think exits of buildings, tight passages etc). It's hit-or-miss if they'll be set off since you can never be sure if people will step in that exact spot, but if players are willing to abide by mine rules, they can be quite effective.



Mines (Subterranian Mines, aka "proper" mines)
Fill them with water and a CO2 capsule. Available in variations that will soak the victim the second they step on it, or the nasty psychological nightmare one that simply clicks on pressure and makes you stand there like an eejit until you decide to remove pressure or cleverly disarm it.
Either way they sufer from two big drawbacks.
1) You'll need a shovel, persmission to dig dirty big holes in the site, about 10 minutes to set the damn thing up and pure luck that your effort will not be in vain.
2) Getting hit with powder is one thing, but people don't appreciated having their lower extremeties suddenly saturated in the middle of a game. Unless everyone is of good spirits and you expressley ask each player individually for permission to use it, I wouldn't bother.



They're the most commonly available types, how you use them is up to you. I recommend 3lbs-break clear fishing line for your trip line for most things, heavier if you're going for that M203 option. A couple of simple tent pegs make great tie points for your trip line too.

Hivemind187

TheDoc wrote: »

Seen a few good ones in my time.

The best would be a trip wire setup to a sonic screeching rape kit thingy that basicaly let the world and its mother know where you are.

And a second being a tripwire up to some mine that shot a load of flower and stuff out. I asked a marashll was it a hit and he said no, so on I went, not realising I was so clearly visible through the forest I was getting shot at elft right and centre.

In fairness DOC I've seen you bimble through and set off trip mines without even noticing ... wasting a team mate in the process

Shiva

Hivemind187 wrote: »

In fairness DOC I've seen you bimble through and set off trip mines without even noticing ... wasting a team mate in the process

Despite said team mate roaring at him to freeze three times before he actually tripped it.

Shanewalsh

haha cheers for in the info guys.

hrta

Shanewalsh wrote: »

hahah, well ya see i play in The Office Block so i am thinking of crafty places to put wire without causing injury if the wire failed and sent the player flying hahaha.

you would be better off with PIR's indoors, for DTD's, drop and run, sort of speak.

thermo

booby traps are only limited by how devious the mind is of the person setting them! and many household items can be "recycled" to make booby traps

Leftyflip

I have devious plans for Thunder B's when I get back.
Oh you'll see, you'll all see...

thermo

Leftyflip wrote: »

I have devious plans for Thunder B's when I get back.
Oh you'll see, you'll all see...

thunder b + glade motion sensor air freshner = motion activated booby trap.
and yes i do get that bored in the evening!

Leftyflip

thermo wrote: »

thunder b + glade motion sensor air freshner = motion activated booby trap.
and yes i do get that bored in the evening!

Ya know those mounds at HRTA Lar? The clay is pretty loose...
Who's gonna see that line I use for tripwires anyway?

thermo

Leftyflip wrote: »

Ya know those mounds at HRTA Lar? The clay is pretty loose...
Who's gonna see that line I use for tripwires anyway?

done that!

kevinhalvey

what i sometime do is dig a pit and it will fill with water and then cover it in grass and then sit in a bush with my l96 and when the first person gets the shock everyone behind him stops and then i start shooting :D

Leftyflip

kevinhalvey wrote: »

what i sometime do is dig a pit and it will fill with water and then cover it in grass and then sit in a bush with my l96 and when the first person gets the shock everyone behind him stops and then i start shooting :D

Oh noes! Water! I'll get my gear wet!! Aahhhh!!!!!!!!

/failed funny

kevinhalvey

i was lying in a ditch up to my waist in water last skirmish with three others best crack ever and one other guy wouldnt get in so we called him a
"gear queer"

NakedDex

Two questions;

1) If I step in that hole you dug and break my ankle, you're ok with covering the costs of my medical expenses and loss of earnings, right?

2) If I don't want to wade into waist-high water in a ditch, am I a "gear queer" too? Since, y'know, the reason I don't really want in on that is not just because I value the equipment I've spent hundreds, even thousands on, but because I don't really trust the sanitary conditions of the semi-stagnant water of an agricultural drainage ditch beside a field of livestock?

kevinhalvey

NakedDex wrote: »

Two questions;

1) If I step in that hole you dug and break my ankle, you're ok with covering the costs of my medical expenses and loss of earnings, right?

2) If I don't want to wade into waist-high water in a ditch, am I a "gear queer" too? Since, y'know, the reason I don't really want in on that is not just because I value the equipment I've spent hundreds, even thousands on, but because I don't really trust the sanitary conditions of the semi-stagnant water of an agricultural drainage ditch beside a field of livestock?

the pit is not even up too your ankle theres bigger ones on the roads and its only for confusion

answer to part 2 yes

Witcher

kevinhalvey wrote: »

answer to part 2 yes

You must have money to burn so.

NakedDex

There's bigger ones on the road, and even cars avoid them. And if I broke my ankle in a hole in the road, that someone just dug out and left there without warnings, you can be damned sure I'd want someone held accountable.
Picture the scenario; a guy in a game comes bailing around a bend at full pelt, looking ahead of himself, like anyone running would be. One foot enters your little "pit" and he suddenly loses balance, catches the edge of "pit" with his boot, goes tits-first into the rough ground ahead of him and uses the front of his face to decelerate his entire body from sprint speed to zero in 1/100th of a second.
When, or even if, he gets up, he's not going to care that you dug it there "for confusion". He's going to care about why his nose is broken and why he can't walk in a straight line without crutches.


That's not a trap, that's irresponsible.




And as for point number two, have fun with it. I'll be the "gear queer" standing over here with the dry clothes. You'll be able to recognise me, I'll be the one without pneumonia and an e-coli infection.

Gatling

Does the site/s you play know you dig these holes/pits and are are happy to see there players put at risk of serious injury

Leftyflip

Ah goooo on Dex, you only get e-coli once! :P

jeawan

I was thinking thunder B's with a trip wire but i'm not sure what trip wire too use , i also have a few other ideas i have to play with

NakedDex

3lbs break clear fishing line, that's what I recommend. It's reasonably strong and virtually invisible, even in wet weather where bigger line is often given away when dew settles on the lower parts of the line.

jeawan

NakedDex wrote: »

3lbs break clear fishing line, that's what I recommend. It's reasonably strong and virtually invisible, even in wet weather where bigger line is often given away when dew settles on the lower parts of the line.

Cheers man

SNAKEDOC

i build my own traps. a nice big rat trap to begin with. they come with a fake piece of cheese on it cut that down so its only catching the spring part. then open the working part and wrap duck tap around the metal bar that would trap the rat. make a nit of a dish with the tape. i used cabel ties to stop the bar from slaming down the full way just to past the vertical mark. then i mounted the whole thing on a piece of cement for stability. a trip wire and when it is set pour the desired amount of bb's covered in red sauce or flour or egg or whatever you fancy for the effect and you have a land mine that will fire bb's at a good rate at a 60 degree angle upward. also i find to stop injury tape the trip wire to the oposite side that way if it doesn't fire the tape will break and prevent injury. a rat trap is very light to trigger so be careful loading it. (face full of bb's = not good)

TheDoc

Shiva wrote: »

Despite said team mate roaring at him to freeze three times before he actually tripped it.

in fairness though i was dead walking back to spawn

NakedDex

Dead men don't talk, but ghosts trigger mines?

Leftyflip

NakedDex wrote: »

Dead men don't talk, but ghosts trigger mines?

Must have been a zombie...

peter-pantslez

when the warehouse was open i used to carry claymores and a roll of fishing line and duct tape, and used to booby trap the doors.

seen it take oout 4 lads at once one day:D

PEP_C

The guys in foxtrot 58 used to use copper wire rigged into a smoke alarm test button....trip the wire and it would remove the pin which blocked the circuit. The alarm would go off and all were dead within 5 mts.

Freak

Had fun in the Office Block last time I was out there, rearranged a cabinet so it was near a door then closed the door over but not completely then, put a Thunder B down with the edge of the door holding the arming lever in while the body of the grenade was against the cabinet.

A couple of minutes after I 'died' I heard a bang, one of the lads had kicked in the door and stepped into the room and noticed the grenade just as it went off

Shanewalsh

Freak wrote: »

Had fun in the Office Block last time I was out there, rearranged a cabinet so it was near a door then closed the door over but not completely then, put a Thunder B down with the edge of the door holding the arming lever in while the body of the grenade was against the cabinet.

A couple of minutes after I 'died' I heard a bang, one of the lads had kicked in the door and stepped into the room and noticed the grenade just as it went off

hahah good one, sure on Saturday one of the lads rigged the protocol folder with a grenade inside it. And when the enemy got the folder i think he picked the folder up with the undetonated grenade inside because their was no bang hahaha.