Opinions needed on crossroads question

Jimmy Bottlehead

Hey.

If taking a right turn at a crossroads (with a yellow box) and you get hit on your passenger side wing panel, are you automatically at fault under any circumstances? Or does the other car yield once you are 3/4 of the way through the manouvre?

analfabets

Where was the other car coming from?
Was it traveling straight in the opposit direction? If so and if he/she wasn't breaking speed limit, you vould be at fault.

Jimmy Bottlehead

analfabets wrote: »

Where was the other car coming from?
Was it traveling straight in the opposit direction? If so and if he/she wasn't breaking speed limit, you vould be at fault.

Coming from he opposite direction. I was turning right, they were going straight ahead.

analfabets

Unless they where speeding, it's your fault really.
I presume you drove in front of them, so they never had a chance to stop in time?

irisheddie85

were you stopped or moving?
If you were at a complete stop and then drove into you they have some blame
If you were moving into moving traffic chances are you went when there wasnt enough space

Also at the crossroads were ye both on the main road or coming from the lesser roads
If on the main road you are at fault he has no yield sign you were in his lane
If on the minor road he had to at least go through a yield if not a stop sign he may have some blame

corktina

analfabets wrote: »

Unless they where speeding, it's your fault really.
I presume you drove in front of them, so they never had a chance to stop in time?

sounds that way...if you were 3/4 of the way through the manovere I guess you werent stationary.

Jimmy Bottlehead

Thing is my cars acceleration is crap so I never take a chance getting across and I never noticed it so it must have been coming along at a fair pace. There were no witnesses and while we were both pleasant at the scene, we both maintained we were right. Very very minor damage to both, so is it a case of fix your own?

C0N0R

I would imagine if you say you didn't notice him coming they could go down the road of due care and attention. From what you have said I would think that if you get away with paying for your own your very lucky. What was the speed limit??

Jimmy Bottlehead

50km/h

CiniO

Jimmy Bottlehead wrote: »

50km/h

Even if he was speeding a bit, there's pretty much no chance you can prove he was. Unless there are some tyre traces on the road - bo you would have to call guards at the scene to measure them.
Also damage is little, so it indicates that speeds were too big.

There's general rule, that when you turn right, you have to yield to cars coming from the other side.

So in the end, I think it's your fault, and he might easily claim from you insurance policy.

djimi

Im pretty sure even if the other chap was speeding youre still at least partly at fault.

Unless he broke a red light then you pulled out in front of a car on the main road and therefore are at fault.

stevenmu

It really comes down to who had right of way at the time. If he had right of way then you are completely in the wrong, and vice versa. Right of way can either be implied by the crossroads layout (e.g. where a minor road crosses a major road, traffic on the major road always has right of way), or it can be explicitly specified by traffic lights, stop/yield signs etc.

I don't think there should be a situation in this country where two roads of equal importance cross over and there is not signage to explain who has right of way. Other countries do have this, but I don't think we do here.

kildare.17hmr

djimi wrote: »

Im pretty sure even if the other chap was speeding youre still at least partly at fault.

Unless he broke a red light then you pulled out in front of a car on the main road and therefore are at fault.

This is the way as far as i know, a mate of mine pulled out infront of a guy who was speedin, 2 cars wrote off and my mate was at fault for pullin out infront of him! not nice but hey could have been worse

djimi

The only time where the speeding issue might come into play is if the crossroads is just after a blind bend, ie where you cant see the approaching traffic until its very close to you, and the oncoming car is going well in excess of the speed limit, then the oncoming driver could well be held responsible. I can think of at least two crossroads like this that I drive regularly, one of which you really are at the mercy of vehicles coming around the bend in that if they are travelling too fast then no matter how safe or cautious you are being they are probably going to hit you.

By the sounds of this situation tho, judging by the damage caused and the speed limit in question, I dont think this is going to be the case.