Michael Campbell

LittleLiam · 26-07-2010 12:20pm #1

I see this joker is down for the Irish Open this weekend. Honestly, somebody wants to take this guy aside and break it to him gently - week in, week out denying someone with a chance of making a par a place in the tournament.

He'd be more suited to the Lumsden.

Surely enough is enough - an 81 last thursday then rtd at +6 thru 9 holes of his second round.

sweetswing · 26-07-2010 12:34pm

a little bit harsh there man, poor ol mick.

Aidric · 26-07-2010 12:42pm

Made 3 cuts in 2009 and 1 this season. His game is in rag order and I think this is the last year of his exemptions from winning the US Open in 05.

Hacker111 · 26-07-2010 12:48pm

He really is an all or nothing guy, he has had similar slumps before and came back. Personally I really feel for him ( as much as you can for a millionaire golfer!) and hope he can turn it around. I followed him in Adare on the second day for 18 holes and his ball striking was v. good, very few mistakes, just missed a few putts.

Throwing him off the tour is a little ridiculous, he earned his exemption by winning one of the most difficult tournaments in the world with Tiger charging after him. If he doesn't start performing he will be gone next year anyway.

Gophur · 26-07-2010 12:59pm

Campbell has earned his place in the tournaments.

So, if he was shunted out, should it be to make way for someone who has not earned his place?

conno16 · 26-07-2010 12:59pm

ya so leave it at that
he has ample opportunity to secure his card
however if hes not performing to the required standard its adios
and rightly so

LittleLiam · 26-07-2010 1:15pm

Gophur wrote: »

Campbell has earned his place in the tournaments.

So, if he was shunted out, should it be to make way for someone who has not earned his place?

There's no suggestion that the tour should kick him out, simply that Campbell should bow out gracefully rather than wasting a spot. That way the most likely young lad fighting to make a living in first reserve could take his spot.

Russman · 26-07-2010 1:22pm

With respect,
So we exclude major winners as soon as they go through a rough patch ? Didn't he win the US Open while coming out of a slump and having to pre-qualify ?

This "joker" has achieved more that most of us in golf and we certainly shouldn't be passing judgement on his game, he's forgotten more than most of us will ever know about golf and is well worth his entry to a tournament. Most especially as he's the kind of player who might just win out of the blue. He's been a loyal supporter of the tour for a long time and as long as either sponsors want him or he qualifies under the rules, is a non issue IMO.

Jimdagym · 26-07-2010 1:25pm

LittleLiam wrote: »

There's no suggestion that the tour should kick him out, simply that Campbell should bow out gracefully rather than wasting a spot. That way the most likely young lad fighting to make a living in first reserve could take his spot.

Its his spot though. He is a major winner, no amount of missed cuts or 81's can take that away from him. And there was at the very least some implied suggestion that the tour put him out to pasture in the OP, even though it was not expressly stated.

LittleLiam · 26-07-2010 1:27pm

Jimdagym wrote: »

Its his spot though. He is a major winner, no amount of missed cuts or 81's can take that away from him. And there was at the very least some implied suggestion that the tour put him out to pasture in the OP, even though it was not expressly stated.

I was referring to 'Team Cambo'. He may be a major winner and still be dining out on that fact, but for the good of his and everybody else's game in Europe, surely he'd be better returning home to Australia and playing on the tour there for a bit to see if he can iron out his game.

Jimdagym · 26-07-2010 1:31pm

LittleLiam wrote: »

I was referring to 'Team Cambo'. He may be a major winner and still be dining out on that fact, but for the good of his and everybody else's game in Europe, surely he'd be better returning home to Australia and playing on the tour there for a bit to see if he can iron out his game.

Would you? Go home with your tail between your legs? I wouldn't, and I can only imagine Cambo starts every Thursday morning and thinks to himself "This is the one where I turn it all around". Above all else, the guy has guts. There is no way its easy to go out put himself through that every week.

LittleLiam · 26-07-2010 1:35pm

Jimdagym wrote: »

Would you? Go home with your tail between your legs? I wouldn't, and I can only imagine Cambo starts every Thursday morning and thinks to himself "This is the one where I turn it all around". Above all else, the guy has guts. There is no way its easy to go out put himself through that every week.

So instead he puts his playing partners through it. Gimme class over guts any day.

Jimdagym · 26-07-2010 1:42pm

LittleLiam wrote: »

So instead he puts his playing partners through it. Gimme class over guts any day.

Sure if they get bored with him he can always tell them what its like to win a major.

f22 · 26-07-2010 1:42pm

LittleLiam wrote: »

I was referring to 'Team Cambo'. He may be a major winner and still be dining out on that fact, but for the good of his and everybody else's game in Europe, surely he'd be better returning home to Australia and playing on the tour there for a bit to see if he can iron out his game.

For starters he's from New Zealand. If you knew anything about him you'd have noticed the fact that his career has worked it's way through the highest and lowest levels imaginable. Funnily enough it seems to have run in 5 year cycles which may point towards a return to some of the golf that won him 6 European Tour events and a US open.

I don't think there's anyone more bothered than Campbell himself.

Jeffm587 · 26-07-2010 1:43pm

[I was referring to 'Team Cambo'. He may be a major winner and still be dining out on that fact, but for the good of his and everybody else's game in Europe, surely he'd be better returning home to Australia and playing on the tour there for a bit to see if he can iron out his game]

Dont think he would be too happy bout the Australia reference

thegen · 26-07-2010 1:44pm

LittleLiam wrote: »

I was referring to 'Team Cambo'. He may be a major winner and still be dining out on that fact, but for the good of his and everybody else's game in Europe, surely he'd be better returning home to Australia and playing on the tour there for a bit to see if he can iron out his game.

Look Campbell has earned his place, and he is from New Zealand not Australia.

LittleLiam · 26-07-2010 1:47pm

Jeffm587 wrote: »

Dont think he would be too happy bout the Australia reference

Nor the Ozzies at the inference that Campbell was one of theirs.

ThunderCat · 26-07-2010 1:52pm

LittleLiam wrote: »

There's no suggestion that the tour should kick him out, simply that Campbell should bow out gracefully rather than wasting a spot. That way the most likely young lad fighting to make a living in first reserve could take his spot.

Would this be the same advice you would have given Lee Westwood a few years back when he was dropping like a stone through the world rankings? You never know whats around the corner in golf and we all know he is good enough to win tournaments so he just needs to find form again and that can only happen through competing.

Johnny86 · 26-07-2010 1:57pm

With Campbell it seems like he needs to take a break from the game and reassess everything, start fresh and change some things around (or maybe he has done this already?)...but if his exemption is running out he is probably desperate to get a result in a tournament to retain his playing rights and thats why is keeps playing

LittleLiam · 26-07-2010 2:04pm

ThunderCat wrote: »

Would this be the same advice you would have given Lee Westwood a few years back when he was dropping like a stone through the world rankings? You never know whats around the corner in golf and we all know he is good enough to win tournaments so he just needs to find form again and that can only happen through competing.

Yeh, good comparison, Westwood who fell to 250 or so in the world rankings and Campbell who's about to drop out the top 1,000. :rolleyes:

PhilipMarlowe · 26-07-2010 2:12pm

Maybe he'll get paired with Lazarus Coltart and draw some inspiration.

LittleLiam · 26-07-2010 2:20pm

Licksy wrote: »

Maybe he'll get paired with Lazarus Coltart and draw some inspiration.

He could learn a lot from that guy - i.e. turning down a slot in scandinavia last week to have a go on the Challenge Tour. A great example of a guy knowing his place in terms of where his game is at.

Johnny_Fontane · 26-07-2010 3:29pm

Remember campbell is not only a former major winner, but always won the irish open in portmarnock, with the best shot I have ever seen in person under pressure (in the playoff).

He absoultely deserves his place and I for one, will be seeking him out this week to watch him.

BUACHAILL · 26-07-2010 4:14pm

LittleLiam wrote: »

Yeh, good comparison, Westwood who fell to 250 or so in the world rankings and Campbell who's about to drop out the top 1,000. :rolleyes:

How about comparing his wins to others and not his missed cuts ? thats his fair reflection, and he will have his reflection next year if he continues like this and that will be no exemptions !! but for you to say he should know his place is a ridiculous comment, his place is what he earned and thats where he is right now !!

rob rock hasnt won yet should he just give up and take a step back, say f.ck it I just aint good enough, or are you going to argue he is consistantly in top tens etc ? guess what nobody remembers your nearly wins !! I could list hundreds more !! silly argument with no grounds for your point ! Campbell has won more events than pro golfers dream of and judging by your responses you will never understand that because if you knew any professional golfer no matter what the level you would understand that anyone of them on their day can be bad but also unstoppable and thats why we have so many different winners all the time.

LittleLiam · 27-07-2010 9:08am

BUACHAILL wrote: »

rob rock hasnt won yet should he just give up and take a step back, say f.ck it I just aint good enough, or are you going to argue he is consistantly in top tens etc ? guess what nobody remembers your nearly wins !! I could list hundreds more !! silly argument with no grounds for your point ! Campbell has won more events than pro golfers dream of and judging by your responses you will never understand that because if you knew any professional golfer no matter what the level you would understand that anyone of them on their day can be bad but also unstoppable and thats why we have so many different winners all the time.

Robert Rock's career is on the up and up and he's on the brink of a first tour win. You didn't see him at St Andrews, no? Cambo's on the other hand is in inexorable decline. The sooner his exemptions run out, the better for the European Tour. And probably also himself.

Dr.Silly · 27-07-2010 9:33am

LittleLiam wrote: »

I see this joker is down for the Irish Open this weekend. Honestly, somebody wants to take this guy aside and break it to him gently - week in, week out denying someone with a chance of making a par a place in the tournament.

He'd be more suited to the Lumsden.

Surely enough is enough - an 81 last thursday then rtd at +6 thru 9 holes of his second round.

Yeah, well said,
sure lets get rid of harrington, woods, duval and any other major winners who are playing sh1te ...:rolleyes:

Forgot to mention: Good old Rory shooting an 80....WTF...back to qualifying school for him..!!

LittleLiam · 27-07-2010 9:42am

Dr.Silly wrote: »

Yeah, well said,
sure lets get rid of harrington, woods, duval and any other major winners who are playing sh1te ...:rolleyes:

Forgot to mention: Good old Rory shooting an 80....WTF...back to qualifying school for him..!!

You're missing the point, completely.

Dr.Silly · 27-07-2010 9:46am

LittleLiam wrote: »

You're missing the point, completely.

No, I totally understand you're point...and it's just non-sense talk to be honest

BUACHAILL · 27-07-2010 9:50am

No your missing the point !

On the brink of his first win means ****
he hasn't won end of and until he does he cannot be regarded with the likes of Campbell And every other tour winner!! Campbell has being playing fairly bad alright but doesn't take away from his achievements or his talent, that's the point he could at any stage click and win another event as he knows how to do it, unlike rob rock and hundreds more like him

LittleLiam · 27-07-2010 9:55am

BUACHAILL wrote: »

No your missing the point !

On the brink of his first win means ****
he hasn't won end of and until he does he cannot be regarded with the likes of Campbell And every other tour winner!! Campbell has being playing fairly bad alright but doesn't take away from his achievements or his talent, that's the point he could at any stage click and win another event as he knows how to do it, unlike rob rock and hundreds more like him

Fairly bad!? What planet are you living on? He's been playing like a 5 handicapper for the past how many years?! He's an embarassment to himself and the European Tour. If he was a dog, he'd have been put down by now.

Dr.Silly · 27-07-2010 10:00am

LittleLiam wrote: »

Fairly bad!? What planet are you living on? He's been playing like a 5 handicapper for the past how many years?! He's an embarassment to himself and the European Tour. If he was a dog, he'd have been put down by now.

And what's harrington been playing off in his last tournaments....amongst so many other golfers...

do me a favour, log off and stop trying to justify such a useless and insignificant thread.

BUACHAILL · 27-07-2010 10:09am

LittleLiam wrote: »

Fairly bad!? What planet are you living on? He's been playing like a 5 handicapper for the past how many years?! He's an embarassment to himself and the European Tour. If he was a dog, he'd have been put down by now.

I won't argue anymore with you as you don't have the capacity to realise what a stupid statement you have made nor have you backed up anything you have said! Just ranting with a load of bollix talk

LittleLiam · 27-07-2010 10:15am

Dr.Silly wrote: »

And what's harrington been playing off in his last tournaments....amongst so many other golfers...

do me a favour, log off and stop trying to justify such a useless and insignificant thread.

These arguments about players being in mini-slumps don't wash. The jump from Harrington to Cambo is monsterous. Harrington hasn't been hacking around in the 80s for the past however many years. He's also had a few half decent finishes this season.

LittleLiam · 27-07-2010 10:15am

BUACHAILL wrote: »

I won't argue anymore with you as you don't have the capacity to realise what a stupid statement you have made nor have you backed up anything you have said! Just ranting with a load of bollix talk

I guess you boyos just don't get it. I'll leave it too.

Only one Keano · 27-07-2010 10:17am

LittleLiam wrote: »

I see this joker is down for the Irish Open this weekend. Honestly, somebody wants to take this guy aside and break it to him gently - week in, week out denying someone with a chance of making a par a place in the tournament.

He'd be more suited to the Lumsden.

Surely enough is enough - an 81 last thursday then rtd at +6 thru 9 holes of his second round.

He did win the Irish Open not so long ago by the way! He also is a Major Winner not so long ago and winner of World Mathcplay in Wentworth so a bit harsh. His game seems to go through cycles of fantastic highs and staggering lows. He came on the scene like a world beater only missing the playoff back in St Andrews by 1 shot when Daly won to then admitting deliberately missing a putt to miss a cut to then returning to win US Open with Tiger down his neck to the unfortunate abyss he is now. It has gotton so low that his nickname on tour is Tenerife- as in rarely in 60's, sometimes in 70's but mostly in the 80's!

I think he is very worthy of an inclusion though as I would still watch him play well before most of the players out there and reckon he will get a lot of support and sympathy from the Irish crowd which may help him get back on the road. He is the kind of guy where one decent week could just turn it all round and his previous exploits deserve him of this opportunity. He is still well young enough to turn it around. As the old saying goes........"form is temporary but class is permanent"!:)

Speak Now · 27-07-2010 10:27am

Campbell has had 2 very bad years so lets kick him while he's down and strip him of the privileges he earned on the golf course.
Oh and that Honorary Life Membership of The European Tour, could you please return it :rolleyes:

LittleLiam · 27-07-2010 10:40am

Jerry Seinfeld wrote: »

Campbell has had 2 very bad years so lets kick him while he's down and strip him of the privileges he earned on the golf course.
Oh and that Honorary Life Membership of The European Tour, could you please return it :rolleyes:

What?! So that means we're stuck with him hacking up the fairways of Europe for however long his little Ozzy heart desires? Talk about a noose around the neck.

I can't believe he warranted a life membership. Did Gmac get one as well? He's done far more than Campbell in the game.

L.O.F.T · 27-07-2010 11:03am

LittleLiam wrote: »

What?! So that means we're stuck with him hacking up the fairways of Europe for however long his little Ozzy heart desires? Talk about a noose around the neck.

Its hard not to attack the poster here.....he's From NEW ZEALAND,not Ozzy as you so put it, you have been told this fact in numerous posts previous to this, wake up and stop stirring the S**t.

LittleLiam wrote: »

I can't believe he warranted a life membership. Did Gmac get one as well? He's done far more than Campbell in the game.

What you also seem find hard to believe is he has earned his spot on tour...regardless of how he is playing, and until such time as that exception expires he will play until he comes out of his slump or decide's to give up, which really doesn't seem to be in his character. The world of golf has plenty of guys willing to keep trying, like Campbell, Duval, Daly, Beam, Hamilton, Curtis, Micheel, Clarke, Westwood and countless other pros.They believe no matter how bad it gets your next good round or tourney may just be around the corner.

''Only those who dare to fail greatly can achieve greatly''
Robert F. Kennedy

Speak Now · 27-07-2010 11:03am

LittleLiam wrote: »

What?! So that means we're stuck with him hacking up the fairways of Europe for however long his little Ozzy heart desires? Talk about a noose around the neck.

I can't believe he warranted a life membership. Did Gmac get one as well? He's done far more than Campbell in the game.

Ozzy

I think any member of the European tour that wins a major (And Monty :pac:) gets an Honorary.

Dr.Silly · 27-07-2010 11:06am

LittleLiam wrote: »

I can't believe he warranted a life membership. .

I can't believe you're still talking,

over and out on this stoooooopid thread

f22 · 27-07-2010 11:13am

LittleLiam wrote: »

I guess you boyos just don't get it. I'll leave it too.

As a matter of interest what achievements/level have you had yourself in golf that gives you the right to call any tour player a hacker?

LittleLiam · 27-07-2010 11:20am

f22 wrote: »

As a matter of interest what achievements/level have you had yourself in golf that gives you the right to call any tour player a hacker?

This thread isn't about me. I'd appreciate it if you would keep any comments on topic.

Only one Keano · 27-07-2010 11:32am

Dr.Silly wrote: »

I can't believe you're still talking,

over and out on this stoooooopid thread

You're dead right Dr Silly. The rubbish being spoken about a player who will go down as one of European Tour's best is unreal. No point in wasting energy trying to justify what he is fully entitled to!

f22 · 27-07-2010 11:35am

LittleLiam wrote: »

This thread isn't about me. I'd appreciate it if you would keep any comments on topic.

I'm pretty sure we'd have some entertaining reponses if it was about you!

LittleLiam · 27-07-2010 11:37am

f22 wrote: »

I'm pretty sure we'd have some entertaining reponses if it was about you!

Going by your posting record, i really doubt whether anything entertaining would come from you.

f22 · 27-07-2010 11:41am

LittleLiam wrote: »

Going by your posting record, i really doubt whether anything entertaining would come from you.

We'll never know

Osgoodisgood · 27-07-2010 11:43am

Dont feed the trolls!

Move along please folks, nothing to see here.

BiffoGooner · 27-07-2010 11:50am

Conno eat your heart out eh?Surely this thread is fit for locking?Never read such rubbish in my life.

PhilipMarlowe · 27-07-2010 11:52am

Would be slow to criticise someone for putting themselves on the line...
I like the underdog/hopeless case scenario anyway which is why I'm off to Killarney this Thursday to follow Murphy around for 36 holes.

Teddy said it all way back when.
"It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best, knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who knew neither victory nor defeat."
Theodore Roosevelt
"Citizenship in a Republic,"
Speech at the Sorbonne, Paris, April 23, 1910

Ok, so maybe a bit OTT

Thread closed.

Michael Campbell

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