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Netanyahu Shows True Colours

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    Brown Bomber
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    Transcript

    http://imeu.net/news/article0019451.shtml

    0:01 Netanyahu: Turn off the camera so that we can elaborate on this.
    0:05 Narrator:: A few minutes later... the camera is turned on again and Netanyahu begins to speak without quotation marks and without masks
    0:13 Netanyahu: Now we're beginning to understand the meaning of the slogan 'Yesha Zeikan Judea, Samaria, and Azza are here'
    0:18 Netanyahu: Yesha is everywhere, what is the difference.
    0:20 Netanyahu: What does Arafat want? He wants one big settlement [implies Palestinians see all of Israel as a settlement].
    0:24 Woman: Yes that's what my daughter in law who came from England says [i.e. they, Palestinians, see Tel Aviv as a settlement also].
    0:29 Netanyahu: Tel Aviv is also a settlement. From their point of view [Palestinians], our territorial waters are also theirs.
    0:33 Netanyahu: The fact is that they want us in the sea. Over there... [gestures] in the distant water.
    0:35 Netanyahu: The Arabs now are preparing for a campaign [or war] of terror, and they think that this will break us.
    0:39 Netanyahu: The main thing is, first and foremost, to hit them hard.
    0:45 Netanyahu: Not just one hit... but many painful, so that the price will be unbearable.
    0:49 Netanyahu: The price is not unbearable, now.
    0:51 Netanyahu: A total assault on the Palestinian Authority.
    0:55 Netanyahu: To bring them to a state of panic that everything is collapsing.
    1:02 Netanyahu: ...fear that everything will collapse... this is what we'll bring them to...
    1:05 Woman interrupts: But wait a minute, at that point the whole world will say 'What are you occupiers?' Netanyahu: The world will say nothing. The world will say that we are defending ourselves.
    1:11 Woman: Aren't you afraid of the world Bibi? Netanyahu: No
    1:14 Netanyahu: Especially now, with America, I know what America is.
    1:17 Netanyahu: America is a thing that can be easily moved. ...moved in the right direction.
    1:22 Netanyahu: They [Americans] will not bother us.
    1:26 Netanyahu: Let's suppose that they [Americans] will say something [to us - Israelis]... so they say it... [so what?]
    1:31 Netanyahu: 80% of the Americans support us.
    1:33It's absurd! We have such [great] support there!
    1:35And we say... what shall we do with this [support]?
    1:37Look, the other administration (that of Clinton) was pro-Palestinian in an extreme way.
    1:41I was not afraid to manuever there. I did not fear confrontation with Clinton.
    1:44I was not afraid to clash with the U.N.
    1:47 Netanyahu: As it is, I am paying the price in the international arena...
    1:49So I might as well receive something of equal value in exchange.
    1:51 Child: But never mind that. We gave them things, and we can't take them back. Because they won't give them back to us.
    1:56 Netanyahu: [Gestures for child to let him speak] First of all, Oslo is a system [or package of things].
    1:59You're right, a) I do not know what can and cannot be taken back [from Palestinians] Woman: He has political opinions, believe me.
    2:03 Netanyahu: He's right.
    2:04 Woman: He said such things to Arik Sharon that I told him: that's not - that's not a child's opinion. The Oslo Accords are a disaster.
    2:08 Netanyahu: Yes, I know that and you know that... but the people need to know
    2:13 Woman: Right. But I thought that the prime minister did know, and that he'd do everything so that, somehow, not to do critical things, like handing over Hebron, that...
    2:23 Netanyahu: What were the Oslo Accords? The Oslo Accords, which the Knesset signed, I was asked, before the elections: "Will you act according to them?" and I answered: "Yes, subject to reciprocity and limiting the withdrawals."
    2:34 Netanyahu: But how do you limit the withdrawals? I interpret the accords in such a way that will enable me to stop this rush toward '67 borders [returning to armistice line]. [So...] how do we do it?
    2:44 Narrator:: The Oslo Accords stated at the time that Israel would gradually hand over territories to the Palestinians in three different stages, unless the territories in question had settlements or military sites. This is where Netanyahu found a loophole.
    2:56 Netanyahu: No one said what defined military sites. Defined military sites, I said, were security zones. As far as I'm concerned, the Jordan Valley is a defined military site.
    3:06 Woman: Right [laughs]. The Beit She'an settlements. The Beit She'an Valley.
    3:09 Netanyahu: How can you tell. How can you tell? But then the question came up of just who would define what Defined Military Sites were. I received a letter - to me and to Arafat, at the same time...
    3:21which said that Israel, and only Israel, would be the one to define what those are, the location of those military sites and their size. Now, they did not want to give me that letter, so I did not give the Hebron Agreement.
    3:40I stopped the government meeting, I said: "I'm not signing." Only when the letter came, in the course of the meeting, to me and to Arafat, only then did I sign the Hebron Agreement.
    3:52Or rather, ratify it, it had already been signed. Why does this matter? Because at that moment I actually stopped the Oslo Accord.
    3:59Woman interrupts: And despite that, one of our own people, excuse me, who knew it was a swindle, and that we were going to commit suicide with the Oslo Accord, gives them - for example - Hebron. I never understood that.
    4:11 Netanyahu: Indeed, Hebron hurts. It hurts. It's the thing that hurts. One of the famous rabbis, whom I very much respect, a rabbi of Eretz Yisrael, he said to me: "What would your father say?"
    4:21I went to my father. Do you know a little about my father's position? Woman: Yes Child: No [laughs] Woman: He'll read in a little while.
    4:31 Netanyahu: He's not exactly a lily-white dove, as they say. So my father heard the question and said: 'Tell the rabbi that your grandfather, Rabbi Natan Milikowski, was a smart Jew.'
    4:41'Tell him it would be better to give two percent than to give a hundred percent. And that's the choice here. You gave two percent and in that way you stopped the withdrawal. Instead of a hundred percent.'
    4:53 Netanyahu: The trick is not to be there and break down. The trick is to be there and pay a minimal price.
    5:01 Woman: May you say that as prime minister.
    5:03 Netanyahu: In my estimation that will happen.


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    PirateShampoo
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    What year was this?


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    Brown Bomber
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    PirateShampoo wrote: »
    What year was this?

    In the links


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    studiorat
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    PirateShampoo wrote: »
    What year was this?

    The Oslo accords he's talking about were in 1993. The interview was in 2001 "leaked" by an Israeli TV station.

    Netanyahu's comments are in keeping with the ratification of Oslo in 1995 that : "The security border of the State of Israel will be located in the Jordan Valley, in the broadest meaning of that term."

    So it's no great scoop, they ratified the agreement a long time before the video...


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    Brown Bomber
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    studiorat wrote: »
    The Oslo accords he's talking about were in 1993. The interview was in 2001 "leaked" by an Israeli TV station.

    Netanyahu's comments are in keeping with the ratification of Oslo in 1995 that : "The security border of the State of Israel will be located in the Jordan Valley, in the broadest meaning of that term."

    So it's no great scoop, they ratified the agreement a long time before the video...

    Who said it was a "scoop"?

    The area you are referring to is Area C under the Oslo accords, which is only temporarily under Israeli control until a final, peaceful agreement can be reached. What this shows is that Netanyahu has no intention of agreeing to any potential peaceful solution that gets in the way of barbaric, racially motivated zionist expansion.


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    Brown Bomber wrote: »
    Who said it was a "scoop"?

    What this shows is that Netanyahu has no intention of agreeing to any potential peaceful solution that gets in the way of barbaric, racially motivated zionist expansion.

    Area B I believe, 90% sure.

    I think you are looking too much into it. It's video of a politician blowing smoke up his constituents ass, making himself look bigger than he is...


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    Brown Bomber
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    studiorat wrote: »
    Area B I believe, 90% sure.

    I think you are looking too much into it. It's video of a politician blowing smoke up his constituents ass, making himself look bigger than he is...

    Definitely Area C. Bibi wasn't an active politician then.

    It gives a good insight into his and the Zionist supremacist mentality.

    This could easily fit into the flotilla massacre

    0:35 Netanyahu: The Arabs peace activists now are preparing for a campaign [or war] of terror, and they think that this will break us.
    0:39 Netanyahu: The main thing is, first and foremost, to hit them hard.
    0:45 Netanyahu: Not just one hit... but many painful, so that the price will be unbearable.
    0:49 Netanyahu: The price is not unbearable, now.
    0:51 Netanyahu: A total assault on the Palestinian Authority. Freedom Flotilla
    0:55 Netanyahu: To bring them to a state of panic that everything is collapsing.
    1:02 Netanyahu: ...fear that everything will collapse... this is what we'll bring them to...
    1:05 Woman interrupts: But wait a minute, at that point the whole world will say 'What are you occupiers?' pirates? Netanyahu: The world will say nothing. The world will say that we are defending ourselves.
    1:11 Woman: Aren't you afraid of the world Bibi? Netanyahu: No
    1:14 Netanyahu: Especially now, with America, I know what America is.
    1:17 Netanyahu: America is a thing that can be easily moved. ...moved in the right direction.
    1:22 Netanyahu: They [Americans] will not bother us.
    1:26 Netanyahu: Let's suppose that they [Americans] will say something [to us - Israelis]... so they say it... [so what?]
    1:31 Netanyahu: 80% of the Americans support us.
    1:33It's absurd! We have such [great] support there!


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    DeBunny
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    This could easily fit into Star Wars.

    0:35 Netanyahu: The Arabs peace activists Rebel Alliance now are preparing for a campaign [or war] of terror, and they think that this will break us.
    0:39 Netanyahu: The main thing is, first and foremost, to hit them hard.
    0:45 Netanyahu: Not just one hit... but many painful, so that the price will be unbearable.
    0:49 Netanyahu: The price is not unbearable, now.
    0:51 Netanyahu: A total assault on the Palestinian Authority. Freedom Flotilla Rebel Armada
    0:55 Netanyahu: To bring them to a state of panic that everything is collapsing.
    1:02 Netanyahu: ...fear that everything will collapse... this is what we'll bring them to...
    1:05 Woman interrupts: But wait a minute, at that point the whole world galaxy will say 'What are you occupiers?' pirates? The Baddies?

    Why bother with speculation?


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    TMoreno
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    The 12th of September 2001 in the New York Times:

    Asked tonight what the attack (9 11) meant for relations between the United States and Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, the former prime minister, replied, ''It's very good.'' Then he edited himself: ''Well, not very good, but it will generate immediate sympathy.'' He predicted that the attack would ''strengthen the bond between our two peoples, because we've experienced terror over so many decades, but the United States has now experienced a massive hemorrhaging of terror.''

    http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/12/us/day-terror-israelis-spilled-blood-seen-bond-that-draws-2-nations-closer.html


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    studiorat
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    Brown Bomber wrote: »
    Definitely Area C. Bibi wasn't an active politician then.

    It gives a good insight into his and the Zionist supremacist mentality.

    This could easily fit into the flotilla massacre

    0:35 Netanyahu: The Arabs peace activists now are preparing for a campaign [or war] of terror, and they think that this will break us.
    0:39 Netanyahu: The main thing is, first and foremost, to hit them hard.
    0:45 Netanyahu: Not just one hit... but many painful, so that the price will be unbearable.
    0:49 Netanyahu: The price is not unbearable, now.
    0:51 Netanyahu: A total assault on the Palestinian Authority. Freedom Flotilla
    0:55 Netanyahu: To bring them to a state of panic that everything is collapsing.
    1:02 Netanyahu: ...fear that everything will collapse... this is what we'll bring them to...
    1:05 Woman interrupts: But wait a minute, at that point the whole world will say 'What are you occupiers?' pirates? Netanyahu: The world will say nothing. The world will say that we are defending ourselves.
    1:11 Woman: Aren't you afraid of the world Bibi? Netanyahu: No
    1:14 Netanyahu: Especially now, with America, I know what America is.
    1:17 Netanyahu: America is a thing that can be easily moved. ...moved in the right direction.
    1:22 Netanyahu: They [Americans] will not bother us.
    1:26 Netanyahu: Let's suppose that they [Americans] will say something [to us - Israelis]... so they say it... [so what?]
    1:31 Netanyahu: 80% of the Americans support us.
    1:33It's absurd! We have such [great] support there!

    Then he's taking credit for Rabin's ratification in 1995. Definitely B
    http://www.mfa.gov.il/MFA/MFAArchive/1990_1999/1995/10/PM+Rabin+in+Knesset-+Ratification+of+Interim+Agree.htm

    In addition to you changing the text the couple of lines the text provided is over the period of an hour.
    0:35 Netanyahu: The Arabs peace activists now are preparing for a campaign [or war] of terror, and they think that this will break us.

    This for example is correct Hizbollah did launch over 3,000 rockets against Israel...

    Why put in Peace activists from an interview which was 10 years ago?     What's that all about?


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    profitius
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    TMoreno wrote: »
    The 12th of September 2001 in the New York Times:

    Asked tonight what the attack (9 11) meant for relations between the United States and Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, the former prime minister, replied, ''It's very good.'' Then he edited himself: ''Well, not very good, but it will generate immediate sympathy.'' He predicted that the attack would ''strengthen the bond between our two peoples, because we've experienced terror over so many decades, but the United States has now experienced a massive hemorrhaging of terror.''

    http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/12/us/day-terror-israelis-spilled-blood-seen-bond-that-draws-2-nations-closer.html

    He sounds like a satisfied man there.


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    robtri
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    your right it can be changed to suit the flotila assault
    Brown Bomber wrote: »
    =.

    This could easily fit into the flotilla massacre

    0:35 Netanyahu: The Arabs peace activists gazza murderous terroists now are preparing for a campaign [or war] of terror, and they think that this will break us.
    0:39 Netanyahu: The main thing is, first and foremost, to hit them hard.
    0:45 Netanyahu: Not just one hit... but many painful, so that the price will be unbearable.
    0:49 Netanyahu: The price is not unbearable, now.
    0:51 Netanyahu: A total assault on the Palestinian Authority. Freedom Flotilla gazza terrorists
    0:55 Netanyahu: To bring them to a state of panic that everything is collapsing.
    1:02 Netanyahu: ...fear that everything will collapse... this is what we'll bring them to...
    1:05 Woman interrupts: But wait a minute, at that point the whole world will say 'What are you occupiers?' pirates? terrorists Netanyahu: The world will say nothing. The world will say that we are defending ourselves.
    1:11 Woman: Aren't you afraid of the world Bibi? Netanyahu: No
    1:14 Netanyahu: Especially now, with America, I know what America is.
    1:17 Netanyahu: America is a thing that can be easily moved. ...moved in the right direction.
    1:22 Netanyahu: They [Americans] will not bother us.
    1:26 Netanyahu: Let's suppose that they [Americans] will say something [to us - Israelis]... so they say it... [so what?]
    1:31 Netanyahu: 80% of the Americans support us.
    1:33It's absurd! We have such [great] support there!


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