Guardian having a go at Tallaght

FortuneChip

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/jul/23/the-fiver-fulham-sven-goran-eriksson

"We do not know Shamrock Rovers and therefore we have to study them through videos" - Juventus forward David Lanzafame looks forward to next week's Big Vase third round qualifier against Irish side Shamrock Rovers in Robbie Keane's hometown of Tallaght. If Juventus lose, they won't be the first Old Lady to have been mugged in the notoriously rough Dublin village.

Saw this the other day, I was a little offended.
Tallaght is only considered a village?

aDeener

FortuneChip wrote: »

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/jul/23/the-fiver-fulham-sven-goran-eriksson



Saw this the other day, I was a little offended.
Tallaght is only considered a village?

lol

it could have said a lot worse which would have been true tbh

Nozebleed

brilliant...in fairness he's not wrong. hope rovers do the buisness. i'll be getting my tickets on monday!

Odysseus

Yes when my office was in Tallaght Village that was the address and correct term.

mikemac

Tallaght was always a village.

And a lot of well established businesses like pubs will have Tallaght Village in their address

Quick google search shows Foxes Covert

The origins of the pub go back to 1933 when Martin Molloy purchased The Foxes Covert Licensed and Grocery business in Tallaght village

changes

I don't think anywhere in the UK with 100,000 people would be considered a village. On the rough point.... ah hem!!...... they could be right

Pittens

the term village means former village. Islington has been called a village. Westminister. People call Raheny a village.

Biggins

changes wrote: »

I don't think anywhere in the UK with 100,000 people would be considered a village.

Yet there is a place in Florida that I know of in detail called "Rockledge" that has a population of 20,000 and thats called a city!
Strange... :pac:

FortuneChip

We're not rough, just don't approach us!

Pittens

City is unrelated to size.

MagicMarker

feelingstressed wrote: »

Tallaght was always a village.

And a lot of well established businesses like pubs will have Tallaght Village in their address

You mean like Molloys or Macari's or something, which happens to be in Tallaght Village?

2ygb4cmqetsjhx

To be fair. I wouldn't consider Tallaght a village. Just a cancerous limb that makes up one part of one big stinking ****hole. I've nothing against Tallaght on it's own. I just think Dublin ruins Ireland!

alwaysadub

Tallaght is a village yep. Also, like nearly every other place, Tallaght has it's good and bad spots. It's not all bad!

Terry

Feckin' Tallaght scumbags.

mike65

A city is a legal/administrative entity not a size of place.

Biggins

mike65 wrote: »

A city is a legal/administrative entity not a size of place.

I won't disagree with you in that respect - just as the example I gave though above, Rockledge is neither!
Its just something I have yet to get my head around in understanding sometimes.

Lenny

Terry wrote: »

Feckin' Tallaght scumbags.

Lol ya fecker

brummytom

I don't know about over there, but over here AFAIK the one thing that makes a place a city is that it has a cathedral.

aDeener

Biggins wrote: »

I won't disagree with you in that respect - just as the example I gave though above, Rockledge is neither!
Its just something I have yet to get my head around in understanding sometimes.

http://www.drumcouracity.ie/
:pac:

saywhatyousee

Biggins wrote: »

I won't disagree with you in that respect - just as the example I gave though above, Rockledge is neither!
Its just something I have yet to get my head around in understanding sometimes.

to be a city you need,a catherdal,a lord mayor,and a city hall
i think there is 11 city's in the ireland
city's are unrealted to population size

sky88

we dont only mug old ladys in tallaght well mug anyone we do not discriminate

SugarHigh

saywhatyousee wrote: »

to be a city you need,a catherdal,a lord mayor,and a city hall
i think there is 11 city's in the ireland
city's are unrealted to population size

The definition of a city also varies from country to country.

mike65

saywhatyousee wrote: »

to be a city you need,a catherdal,a lord mayor,and a city hall

Wrong wrong and wrong! You don't need a Lord Mayor, just any old Mayor. A Cathedral is not required for a city, Birmingham in England does not have one for example. A city hall will only be found in a city ipso-facto!

brummytom

mike65 wrote: »

Wrong wrong and wrong! You don't need a Lord Mayor, just any old Mayor. A Cathedral is not required for a city, Birmingham in England does not have one for example. A city hall will only be found in a city ipso-facto!

Birmingham doesn't have one mike, it's got two :pac:

St Philips, the CofE one; and St Chad's, the RC one

mike65

Cheers, it didn't have one when it was made a city. (1889)

Biggins

mike65 wrote: »

Wrong wrong and wrong! You don't need a Lord Mayor, just any old Mayor. A Cathedral is not required for a city, Birmingham in England does not have one for example. A city hall will only be found in a city ipso-facto!

Ok, now I'm just twice as confused!

Whip me ass and just call me dopey! :pac:

mike65

Oh and KILKENNY IS NOT A REAL CITY!

/runs and hides.

craggles

Tallaght is whopper.

ceadaoin.

Tallaght Village refers to the area of what used to be Tallaght Village, consisting of Main Street and a few other streets around there, not the whole of Tallaght.

I think with the high population living there its nearly city status.

mike65 wrote: »

Wrong wrong and wrong! You don't need a Lord Mayor, just any old Mayor. A Cathedral is not required for a city, Birmingham in England does not have one for example. A city hall will only be found in a city ipso-facto!

There is one in Birmingham, St Philips

craggles

mike65 wrote: »

Oh and KILKENNY IS NOT A REAL CITY!

/runs and hides.

It really isn't, it's completely farcical to be calling that place a city, it's a medium sized town at best.

Donkey Oaty

Biggins wrote: »

Ok, now I'm just twice as confused!

Whip me ass and just call me dopey! :pac:

To complicate things further, Brighton and Hove, Sunderland and Wolverhampton have no cathedral but do have city status.

And Rochester used to be a city but now isn't.

mike65

Doh, I shudda remembered Wolver'ampton as an example.

Biggins

Donkey Oaty wrote: »

To complicate things further, Brighton and Hove, Sunderland and Wolverhampton have no cathedral but do have city status.

And Rochester used to be a city but now isn't.

Aaa 'ere... do ya want me to be banging me head on the desk! :pac:

weeder

Pittens wrote: »

the term village means former village. Islington has been called a village. Westminister. People call Raheny a village.

ya but in fairness like, people call dublin a town

Engelbert

How dare The Guardian take the piss out of Tallaght, OP! I'm with you on this one.

I mean, as we all know, the only mugging that goes on in Tallaght these days is actually done by the old ladies who reside there!

Kinda still means Rovers will get hammered though!

Donkey Oaty

weeder wrote: »

ya but in fairness like, people call dublin a town

It's a confusing one, especially since technically Bargaintown has more floor space than Power City, although Power City has more technical floor space than Bargaintown.

Celly Smunt

i love the way people in tallaght say they hate it and its a ****hole blah blah all the time and then when someone say's something about it they all jump on the band wagon and get all patriotic :rolleyes:

ordinary_girl

In fairness I've heard worse things said about Tallaght than this.

TerryTibbs!

That piece is written by a top Irish journalist in The Fiver. The Fiver is the online sports sections comedic column.

Basically don't read too much into it.

FortuneChip

Engelbert wrote: »

How dare The Guardian take the piss out of Tallaght, OP! I'm with you on this one.

I mean, as we all know, the only mugging that goes on in Tallaght these days is actually done by the old ladies who reside there!

Kinda still means Rovers will get hammered though!

I'm so angry, I'm actually going to rob Gianluigi Buffon when he gets here.

Morlar

This is idiotic. Tallaght has a village - that does not mean that tallaght is a village.

That population figure of 100,000 is at least 10 yrs old.

I really think that it's significantly higher than that by now what with all the sprawling developments and extensions to estates reaching into the foothills etc.