In All Fairness

AskMyChocolate

If you are being banned from a forum, in the interests of natural justice, should you not be allowed to go back and see what you are being banned for? Surely you should be allowed to judge whether your posts are unacceptable or not? I am perfectly happy with the standard of Modding on this site. Indeed, I would imagine it is what keeps me coming back, but surely while you can (and possibly should) keep a troll/****e poster from posting, you should never deny a defendant access to what was said (claimed to be said). Otherwise, how can they defend themselves?

All people who are being banned should be allowed access to the thread they are being banned for so that they can defend themselves or offer a genuine apology. No need to let them post.

Ger.

Spear

AskMyChocolate wrote: »

If you are being banned from a forum, in the interests of natural justice, should you not be allowed to go back and see what you are being banned for? Surely you should be allowed to judge whether your posts are unacceptable or not? I am perfectly happy with the standard of Modding on this site. Indeed, I would imagine it is what keeps me coming back, but surely while you can (and possibly should) keep a troll/****e poster from posting, you should never deny a defendant access to what was said (claimed to be said). Otherwise, how can they defend themselves?

All people who are being banned should be allowed access to the thread they are being banned for so that they can defend themselves or offer a genuine apology. No need to let them post.

Ger.

Or you could just log out to see what was posted.

Tom Dunne

AskMyChocolate wrote: »

If you are being banned from a forum, in the interests of natural justice, should you not be allowed to go back and see what you are being banned for? Surely you should be allowed to judge whether your posts are unacceptable or not? I am perfectly happy with the standard of Modding on this site. Indeed, I would imagine it is what keeps me coming back, but surely while you can (and possibly should) keep a troll/****e poster from posting, you should never deny a defendant access to what was said (claimed to be said). Otherwise, how can they defend themselves?

All people who are being banned should be allowed access to the thread they are being banned for so that they can defend themselves or offer a genuine apology. No need to let them post.

Ger.

Have a look at the link in my signature for the appeals process.

We are not robots, we are human. No, seriously.

All messing aside, if you think you have been banned unfairly, or are unsure as to why, we are all ears. We try our best to best to be as open and fair as possible.

A ban is typically used as a last resort to remove a poster who has either broken the rules of the forum, or is deemed a disruptive force. As such, that person is denied the opportunity to defend themselves until such time as their ban is up.

AskMyChocolate

Spear wrote: »

Or you could just log out to see what was posted.

Sorry. How is that done?

AskMyChocolate

Tom Dunne wrote: »

Have a look at the link in my signature for the appeals process.

We are not robots, we are human. No, seriously.

All messing aside, if you think you have been banned unfairly, or are unsure as to why, we are all ears. We try our best to best to be as open and fair as possible.

A ban is typically used as a last resort to remove a poster who has either broken the rules of the forum, or is deemed a disruptive force. As such, that person is denied the opportunity to defend themselves until such time as their ban is up.

Cool with that man. Didn't argue the validity of my ban. Just thought that a person who is banned should be allow to review their posts so they could at least say, "I'm terribly sorry" or else, "I still think you're wrong".

Denying people access to their offensive posts is wrong IMO.

AMC

AskMyChocolate

Spear wrote: »

Or you could just log out to see what was posted.

This post was thanked by a load of people in the know. So, tell us. Don't be mean y'miserable bastards. If I knew how to log out and log back in, do you not think I wouldn't have done it by now?

Spear

AskMyChocolate wrote: »

This post was thanked by a load of people in the know. So, tell us. Don't be mean y'miserable bastards. If I knew how to log out and log back in, do you not think I wouldn't have done it by now?

There's a log out button just under the upper right area, where your username and PM count are displayed.

And I also reserve the right to be a mean, miserable bastard.

Insect Overlord

AskMyChocolate wrote: »

This post was thanked by a load of people in the know. So, tell us. Don't be mean y'miserable bastards. If I knew how to log out and log back in, do you not think I wouldn't have done it by now?

At the top of your screen you should see a bar with the words User CP, FAQ, Community, etc going from left to right. The Log Out option is last on the right. Click it and you will be signed out of your account.

From there, find the forum from which you were banned and look for the thread in which you posted something that got you banned.

When you have found it and read it, log back into your account as normal.

AskMyChocolate

Great tips lads. But I logged out and then logged back in, I still can't get into AH nevermind the particular thread.

AMC (frustrated)

GLaDOS

AskMyChocolate wrote: »

Great tips lads. But I logged out and then logged back in, I still can't get into AH nevermind the particular thread.

AMC (frustrated)

Log out, then you are free to view all forums that are open to the general public, which is about 95% of them

Then log back in to access PMs and other such things personal your account.

AskMyChocolate

Tom Dunne wrote: »

Have a look at the link in my signature for the appeals process.

We are not robots, we are human. No, seriously.

All messing aside, if you think you have been banned unfairly, or are unsure as to why, we are all ears. We try our best to best to be as open and fair as possible.

A ban is typically used as a last resort to remove a poster who has either broken the rules of the forum, or is deemed a disruptive force. As such, that person is denied the opportunity to defend themselves until such time as their ban is up.

Well, i have finally managed to get in to the forum (thanks for all the tips lads. It was like getting directions, and when you finally arrive at the place, you go "Oh that left, now it all makes sense" )

Anyway, I'm glad I took a look, because I do feel that my banning was a bit harsh. I'm a huge fan of Doc Boc and his moderating but I do feel I've been hard done by.

If you read the posts leading up to the one I was banned for, I would think you could see the humour. I even put a stick out tongue emoticon just so GG would know I was only messing.

As I said, seems a bit harsh.

AMC

El Weirdo

AskMyChocolate wrote: »

All people who are being banned should be allowed access to the thread they are being banned for so that they can defend themselves or offer a genuine apology. No need to let them post.

How is that done exactly? Shouting really loud?

Edit: Also, just because you stuck in an emoticon doesn't exclude you from a ban. If that was the case, everyone would do it. I suppose the ban was borderline, but the Doc is usually pretty fair as far as I can see. Maybe if you didn't use the word "prick", you might have gotten away with it. But you'll have to ask the Doc to be sure.

AskMyChocolate

El Weirdo wrote: »

How is that done exactly? Shouting really loud?

Edit: Also, just because you stuck in an emoticon doesn't exclude you from a ban. If that was the case, everyone would do it. I suppose the ban was borderline, but the Doc is usually pretty fair as far as I can see. Maybe if you didn't use the word "prick", you might have gotten away with it. But you'll have to ask the Doc to be sure.

Don't mean to be rude, but do I know you?

What possible interest could you have in my banning?


You're dead right though. Doc Boc is not a prick. If him or Javaboy ban you, then you need to take a good look at yourself, generally.

Can I say generally again? It's not as good as "germane", but it's a good word.

*rubs himself and thinks of "salient"*

AMC

El Weirdo

AskMyChocolate wrote: »

Don't mean to be rude, but do I know you?

What possible interest could you have in my banning?

Erm... Sorry.

Didn't realise that you had to know me before I could reply to one of your feedback threads.:rolleyes:

Tom Dunne

Ok, guys, let's keep it civil.

AskMyChocolate wrote: »

Anyway, I'm glad I took a look, because I do feel that my banning was a bit harsh. I'm a huge fan of Doc Boc and his moderating but I do feel I've been hard done by.

Right, if you think it was a bit harsh, don't just sit there, do something.

Seriously, get a second opinion from the other mods, then if you are not happy with what they say, take it to the CMods. Then if you are still not happy, start a Help Desk thread.

You are being very decent about this, I am trying to be also.

Mods/CMods/Admins do make mistakes, you know. It can't hurt to get a second opinion.

dr.bollocko

Currently awaiting a reply to me private message to AMC. I didn't get his private messages till this morning. Did not see this thread till I sent t'other PM. I don't tend to ignore people who drop me private messages questioning this or that or pointing out where I may have been overly harsh. The specific is being dealt with as per the DRP.
Incidentally, DRP, derp, somebody should look at changing the name. Perhaps a feedforward discussion in the making.

Tom Dunne

dr.bollocko wrote: »

Currently awaiting a reply to me private message to AMC. I didn't get his private messages till this morning. Did not see this thread till I sent t'other PM. I don't tend to ignore people who drop me private messages questioning this or that or pointing out where I may have been overly harsh. The specific is being dealt with as per the DRP.
Incidentally, DRP, derp, somebody should look at changing the name. Perhaps a feedforward discussion in the making.

Ok Doc, with that in mind, I'll close this thread.

Any issues, drop me a PM.