Help with kickboxing training please.

Mugendo Baz

Hello all, new here and my first post. I have been training in kickboxing for the past 4 to 5 months and have recently required my first of belt (which is white, which is more of a move from beginner to trainee).

I now attend classes twice a week from the beginners once a week. One class is fitness/circuit training and the other syllabus/fitness. After more training it will be 3 days a week which will have sparring on the third day.

I have found the fitness to be very tough so over the past while i have cleared out my garage and put gym matting down bought a treadmill, 100 pound heavy bag, skipping rope, bar bell with weights, ez bar with weights and a bench press and a step ( for doing jumping squats etc.. ). This is to help get in better shape

My goals would be purely to become a competitive kick boxer. So i would like to be all that goes along with. Fit, flexible and in very good shape.

My problem is i dont know if the training i am doing is sufficent in helping me in my extra time. Im not good with coming up with a training plan as i have no experience. So i feel as if i am lost when am my own. I do all proper warm ups and stretches before doing anything but could someone give me a training plan which would help me towards my goal.

I am 22 and am 14.2 stone. My diet has been good this past while, no junk or alcohol.

Thanks for all help giving.

And also i work as a lorry mechanic about 11 to 12 hours a day and a bit less on kickboxing days so i can attend kickboxing classes

yomchi

Your training at home should mirror your class training, and at least focus on the problem areas that you need to improve on.

Where are you training?

flynny51

Hi,

I'm sure some of the lads on here will help you but i'd look at the fitness forum here first.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=252

There's so much people requesting advice on different combinations of things
there, you're bound to find someone with the same requirements and goals as yourself.

Peetrik

If its your fitness your worried about then your way better off running.

Sprints will improve your explosive power

Middle distance fast runs (3-5k) will improve your recovery between rounds and give you more energy when hitting pads

Long runs (8k +) will control your weight... if you were interested in competing, you'll have to get your weight as low as possible

Mugendo Baz

yomchi wrote: »

Your training at home should mirror your class training, and at least focus on the problem areas that you need to improve on.

Where are you training?

Yeah thats what im attempting to do thanks.
Flexibility is definently not great but getting there slowly but surely.

I train at Cookstown Mugendo Kickboxing
Under Sensei Joe Hagan

flynny51 wrote: »

Hi,

I'm sure some of the lads on here will help you but i'd look at the fitness forum here first.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=252

There's so much people requesting advice on different combinations of things
there, you're bound to find someone with the same requirements and goals as yourself.

Taking a look here now theres plenty of info on there thanks

Peetrik wrote: »

If its your fitness your worried about then your way better off running.

Sprints will improve your explosive power

Middle distance fast runs (3-5k) will improve your recovery between rounds and give you more energy when hitting pads

Long runs (8k +) will control your weight... if you were interested in competing, you'll have to get your weight as low as possible

I think im going to have to run more then, havent been running that much. i usually run 1 mile on the treadmill before hitting the bag and time it, then try and better the time every session.

Should i be trying to sprint more of it and then jog when recovering or try and keep a steady jog then burst into sprints for a short period? thanks for the info

yomchi

If you're attempting to improve your stretching, then be careful about the amount of running you're doing. Running reduces the range of motion of certain muscle groups, especially the hip flexors which are vital for flexibility for kicking.

If you want to improve your fitness do so by training the different kick combinations you would have learned in class. 9 or 10 rounds on the bag is as good as 6k running.

Performance Martial Arts

I had a guy here last week asK me a similar question so here's the plan I did for him. Mabye you can try it. Starting with 10 x 2 minute rounds, 5 x skipping and 5 x kickboxing on the bag. Alternate them as in skip then bag etc. No break between rounds exept to get gloves on. Then after that take a 2 minute break. Then 10 x I minute rounds doing the same thing but the bag rounds the kicks must be to the head!! Then a 1 minute break. Then go round again but 30 second rounds this time and try to keep a high pace!! Then you could do 1 minute press ups and 1 minute squats. You will get your tecnical end of things in your classes aswel as more fitness there and then your sparring too. Also your coach is there to help you so talk to him more!! As this plan is not set in stone you can change it to suit your needs like the amount of rounds or round times etc. Make sure you strech out fully after training. Hope this works out for you and let us no how your getting on.

Peetrik

yomchi wrote: »

If you're attempting to improve your stretching, then be careful about the amount of running you're doing. Running reduces the range of motion of certain muscle groups, especially the hip flexors which are vital for flexibility for kicking.

Could very well be true, but I do Thai myself, lots of head kicks, jumping knees etc my flexability is fine.

yomchi wrote: »

If you want to improve your fitness do so by training the different kick combinations you would have learned in class. 9 or 10 rounds on the bag is as good as 6k running.

Have to respectfully disagree here, hitting the bag isnt a tap on doing a run for a work out. The idea of the running is to improve the length of time and the intensity that you can hit the bag or pads held by a partner because it... a better work out.

All just my opinion formed on what works for me

yomchi

Horses for courses

cletus

Really, the type of conditioning work you do should reflect and mimic the sport your training for, thats why sprinters dont do long distance running in their training

If your goal is to be competitive, then your conditioning should reflect this, ie short bursts of high intensity with rest periods.

If, however your general fitness, as opposed to your sports specific conditioning, is low, then long runs are a good way of establishing base line cardio fitness

yomchi

Peetrik wrote: »

Could very well be true, but I do Thai myself, lots of head kicks, jumping knees etc my flexability is fine.

Bearing in mind the OP is a beginner and more than likely has a reduced range of motion, running and more so cycling can really hamper you making progress. On the other hand if you are flexible, running shouldn't affect your already stretched muscles.

Kurz covers alot of that in his book -stretching scientifically

yomchi

cletus wrote: »

Really, the type of conditioning work you do should reflect and mimic the sport your training for, thats why sprinters dont do long distance running in their training

If your goal is to be competitive, then your conditioning should reflect this, ie short bursts of high intensity with rest periods.

If, however your general fitness, as opposed to your sports specific conditioning, is low, then long runs are a good way of establishing base line cardio fitness

My thoughts exactly. Light contact kickboxing is similar to sport TKD where it relies on more anaerobic endurance over shorter periods.

Mugendo Baz

yomchi wrote: »

If you're attempting to improve your stretching, then be careful about the amount of running you're doing. Running reduces the range of motion of certain muscle groups, especially the hip flexors which are vital for flexibility for kicking.

If you want to improve your fitness do so by training the different kick combinations you would have learned in class. 9 or 10 rounds on the bag is as good as 6k running.

Performance Martial Arts wrote: »

I had a guy here last week asK me a similar question so here's the plan I did for him. Mabye you can try it. Starting with 10 x 2 minute rounds, 5 x skipping and 5 x kickboxing on the bag. Alternate them as in skip then bag etc. No break between rounds exept to get gloves on. Then after that take a 2 minute break. Then 10 x I minute rounds doing the same thing but the bag rounds the kicks must be to the head!! Then a 1 minute break. Then go round again but 30 second rounds this time and try to keep a high pace!! Then you could do 1 minute press ups and 1 minute squats. You will get your tecnical end of things in your classes aswel as more fitness there and then your sparring too. Also your coach is there to help you so talk to him more!! As this plan is not set in stone you can change it to suit your needs like the amount of rounds or round times etc. Make sure you strech out fully after training. Hope this works out for you and let us no how your getting on.

cletus wrote: »

Really, the type of conditioning work you do should reflect and mimic the sport your training for, thats why sprinters dont do long distance running in their training

If your goal is to be competitive, then your conditioning should reflect this, ie short bursts of high intensity with rest periods.

If, however your general fitness, as opposed to your sports specific conditioning, is low, then long runs are a good way of establishing base line cardio fitness

yomchi wrote: »

Bearing in mind the OP is a beginner and more than likely has a reduced range of motion, running and more so cycling can really hamper you making progress. On the other hand if you are flexible, running shouldn't affect your already stretched muscles.

Kurz covers alot of that in his book -stretching scientifically

thanks for all the info.. ill take all into consideration when training