American Golf vs McGuirks

Hoppo2010

I am buying a new set of clubs and visitied both McGuirks and American Gold.

I am looking for a Hybrid 3& 4 and 5-PW irons.

I'm an average Golfer.

McGuirks pushed - Adams A7

American Gold pushed - Nichlaus MTR

They obviously have better markups on these clubs. I have looked through golf reviews etc, but it is very hard to get a good comparrison.

Anyone got any ideas where the best deals or best brands are.

Or are both these unusual or bad clubs.

Thanks

GorHugh

Hoppo2010 wrote: »

I am buying a new set of clubs and visitied both McGuirks and American Gold.

I am looking for a Hybrid 3& 4 and 5-PW irons.

I'm an average Golfer.

McGuirks pushed - Adams A7

American Gold pushed - Nichlaus MTR

They obviously have better markups on these clubs. I have looked through golf reviews etc, but it is very hard to get a good comparrison.

Anyone got any ideas where the best deals or best brands are.

Or are both these unusual or bad clubs.

Thanks

Go to Halpenny Golf lad ,

Taylormade Burner Plus 3h + 4h 5i to pw E350 all in .. and you'll prob get more off with a little haggling ...

quick edit SW included aswell for that price ..

conno16

+1

that is a pretty good deal
clubs are perfect for mid-handicappers as well IMO

GorHugh

conno16 wrote: »

+1

that is a pretty good deal
clubs are perfect for mid-handicappers as well IMO

,

Got a set myself a couple of weeks ago , i went for the 4 iron through Pw
( already had the hybrid ) for E300


Nice Irons to hit , I'm getting on average 10 - 15 yrds extra on each iron compared to my previous set .

conno16

good for you gor

keep practicing

sweetswing

halpenny golf is a way better shop for deals and service, great bunch of guys up there in airside.

Hoppo2010

Is this the one you are talking about


TaylorMade Burner SL Steel Irons

€445.00 €400.50
TaylorMade Burner SL Steel Irons
Click to enlarge

Features * Ultra-large and deep cavity for massive perimeter-weighting * Low-profile long-iron design * Extra-wide, multi-functional sole for ultra-low CG * Inverted cone technology * New TaylorMade 2010 grooves Benefits * Super-forgiving on all mis-hits-toe, heel, high, low * Contributes to high MOI and low CG, making them easy to launch * Super-easy to launch the ball high off the ground * Promotes faster ball speed on mis-hits for consistent distance * Conform to the USGA’s latest ruling related to grooves

Hoppo2010

Which branch of halfpenny did you go to.

Anyone have anyother ideas or opinion.

GorHugh

Hoppo2010 wrote: »

Is this the one you are talking about


TaylorMade Burner SL Steel Irons

€445.00 €400.50
TaylorMade Burner SL Steel Irons
Click to enlarge

Features * Ultra-large and deep cavity for massive perimeter-weighting * Low-profile long-iron design * Extra-wide, multi-functional sole for ultra-low CG * Inverted cone technology * New TaylorMade 2010 grooves Benefits * Super-forgiving on all mis-hits-toe, heel, high, low * Contributes to high MOI and low CG, making them easy to launch * Super-easy to launch the ball high off the ground * Promotes faster ball speed on mis-hits for consistent distance * Conform to the USGA’s latest ruling related to grooves

These are the clubs

http://www.overstock.com/Sports-Toys/TaylorMade-Burner-Plus-Right-handed-Graphite-Combo-Iron-Set/3997322/product.html?cid=133635

http://www.americangolf.co.uk/golf-clubs/golf-irons/taylormade-burner-plus-steel--8--4---sw--irons/ but in Halpenny golf the set includes 3 + 4 hybrids ..

GorHugh

Hoppo2010 wrote: »

Which branch of halfpenny did you go to.

Anyone have anyother ideas or opinion.

Airside in Swords , As sweetswing said their a pleasure to deal with ...

Zak Flaps

my advice, go to kinsealy golf range, there is a mcguirks there...they have loads of demo clubs there....ask the guy there if you can take out 5 different brands of irons (all 6 or 7 irons) to hit on the range...ask him for his recommendations, tell him what standard you are....see what feels best to you...do the same with hybrids another day....hit them before you buy them, that's important...best of luck...

GorHugh

Zak Flaps wrote: »

my advice, go to kinsealy golf range, there is a mcguirks there...they have loads of demo clubs there....ask the guy there if you can take out 5 different brands of irons (all 6 or 7 irons) to hit on the range...ask him for his recommendations, tell him what standard you are....see what feels best to you...do the same with hybrids another day....hit them before you buy them, that's important...best of luck...

The lad ( olly ) in Halpenny airside has demos nights on a thurs if i remember rightly , He has a whole selection of irons , hybrids and driver to try out .. defo worth trying .

waterville72

Which branch of McGuirks and American Golf did you visit?

Squeaksoutloud

I found Halfpenny Golf the best of the lot to deal with and their prices were great...I was extremely happy with their service and will be giving them my custom again ahead of Mcguirks any day.

Hoppo2010

But back to my original post

Adams versus Nichlaus golf clubs

or are both small niche brands that I should stay away from.

heavyballs

Hoppo2010 wrote: »

But back to my original post

Adams versus Nichlaus golf clubs

or are both small niche brands that I should stay away from.

wouldn't limit it to those,what looks best in you hand,what feels the best etc etc,a lot of variables

Jasonw

I'm sure I'll get ate for posting this but here goes. Just MY own personal opinion mind, your milage may vary.

I would rate those brands among the third tier of golf brands if you consider the top tier as Titleist, Taylormade, Mizuno (irons) Callaway and Ping

Second tier would be the likes of Nike, Wilson, Cleveland, Mizuno (woods)etc.

Third tier you have your Rams, Nicklas, Adams and so on.

I wouldn't spend my hard earned on anything other that the first 3 brands I mentioned though I could be talked into a Callaway driver or Cleaveland wedges.

Zak Flaps

heavyballs wrote: »

wouldn't limit it to those,what looks best in you hand,what feels the best etc etc,a lot of variables

+1 on this

conno16

nike = second tier??

not sure about that mate

Jasonw

conno16 wrote: »

nike = second tier??

not sure about that

Most def. don't be fooled by branding.

conno16 wrote: »

mate

No.

conno16

agree with you to a certain extent

but then again do you think casey, woods, Justin Leonard, Stewart Cink, Trevor Immelman, Anthony Kim Carl Pettersson etc etc would use the stuff if they thought it was substandard
i'm not so sure
or are they using TM, titleist etc with the nike swoosh painted over?

Jasonw

It's well known throughout the tours that Miura makes many of the clubs that the pros use and as you say stamp it with the sponsors logo. Of course nobody is saying anything officially. Tiger had a set of Titleist stamped Miuras in 1999 before he switched to Nike. It's not beyond the realms of possibility that he uses a Nike stamped set now.

Played in Portugal last year with a guy who had a set. £10,000 for the set. ouch He let me hit them on the 18th after he had beaten me on the 17th.

conno16

so to summarise..

Tier 1 = miura
Tier 2 = most other clubs
Tier 3 = ram, adams, etc

markie4

Jasonw wrote: »

I'm sure I'll get ate for posting this but here goes. Just MY own personal opinion mind, your milage may vary.

I would rate those brands among the third tier of golf brands if you consider the top tier as Titleist, Taylormade, Mizuno (irons) Callaway and Ping

Second tier would be the likes of Nike, Wilson, Cleveland, Mizuno (woods)etc.

Third tier you have your Rams, Nicklas, Adams and so on.

I wouldn't spend my hard earned on anything other that the first 3 brands I mentioned though I could be talked into a Callaway driver or Cleaveland wedges.

What would you say are the most important factors in Titleist, Taylormade, Callaway and Ping being played the most on tour? I'd say it's money.

In terms of quality/specification tolerances there's very little difference between a tour issue Titleist iron and a tour issue Wilson/Adams/Srixon/Cleveland iron.

All the big manufacturers use chinese foundries to manufacture their clubs. Pretty much all of the brands you named (tiers 1 to 3) would have similar tolerances on their manufacturing specs for retail clubs.

So I'd say no real difference in manufacturing quality between retail titleist irons (eg AP1's) and retail Wilson tours FG's/Pi7's or Adams idea pro irons.

The biggest difference between any of these is perceived (generally thru strong advertsing and marketing), which is then re-inforced by people wanting to believe they're playing "superior" equipment.

And can people get over the Tiger using Miura irons? They're forged by Endo in Thailand/China for Nike and then ground in Texas. This has been consistently and specifically stated by Tom Stites, the Nike club guru.

conno16

thats good information mark and puts much of the above nonsense to bed
thanks for the clarification

sky6

I've played Nicklaus Clubs for the past ten years and have won 3 Captains prizes and many other competitions and prizes. I was made redundant which left me a little flush and so I thought I'd treat myself to a nice set of Pings which I always admired.That was two years ago and I haven't won anything with them. So I'm thinking of going back to my Nicklaus clubs.
Also in the past 5 years I've spent about 1500 euro on Ping,Cobra, Cleveland and Taylormade drivers. While I found the TM the best of these I bought a Nicklaus Airmax Driver last year as I had read good reports about it.
For me it's the Business I've been driving the ball longer and straighter than ever. 250 260 with the odd 280
The best advice I can give you is whatever clubs you decide on get properly custom fitted. It will make the biggest Difference to your game. Good luck
Let us know how you get on.

Trekker09

Adams make excellent gear, but are more popular in the States than Europe. I had a Nicklaus 3 wood a few years back and found it a lot better than my TM 3 wood.

copacetic

Jasonw wrote: »

It's well known throughout the tours that Miura makes many of the clubs that the pros use and as you say stamp it with the sponsors logo. Of course nobody is saying anything officially. Tiger had a set of Titleist stamped Miuras in 1999 before he switched to Nike. It's not beyond the realms of possibility that he uses a Nike stamped set now.

Played in Portugal last year with a guy who had a set. £10,000 for the set. ouch He let me hit them on the 18th after he had beaten me on the 17th.

thats just not true anymore. It may have been the case years ago when everyone played similar forged blades but it just isn't possible anymore as clubs look different a a slight variation in hosel length, face structure etc would be obvious from club to club. No manufacturer would allow it anymore either as they would be a laughing stock when it was found out.

Every week loads of high res photos of players bags are posted across multiple golf sites where any such activity would be really clear. In fact there is a thriving business in 'Tour' only clubs from all the major manufacturers that often come straight from the tour vans.