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  • 20-07-2010 1:48pm
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 94 ✭✭


    Go to the people who know....

    I want to bring power to a shed approx 300m's away from my house.
    Would, running a power cable from the house to the shed work, or would there be too great a loss over the distance?


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  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    It can be done, but it will be expensive!

    First question:
    What size is the load??


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    A 3 x 6mm^2 SWA is good for 1kW at 300m, but it will cost a fortune


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭M cebee


    Yep load first then breaker.
    4 percent total VD at FLA from consumer unit to appliance at end . The fault loop impedance can be measured at house and then r1 +r2 for swa added on afaik


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 94 ✭✭TheDuderino


    Still fleshing out the idea at the moment, so not sure on the actual hardware at the end, and its power demands.

    Basically itll be some broadband/networking kit.

    Also looking into PoE Ethernet extenders.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    I would`t say there are not too many 300 meter long 230v cable runs anywhere are there? Seems almost impracticle. 1 kw is right for the load on the end of 300 meter 6 square. Any higher and the volt drop is too high, no harm to the cable but does`t do the load itself much good if volt drop is too high.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭M cebee


    4% is the max installation VD

    or else for an appliance whatever the permissible voltage range is


    can it be stepped up auto-transformer style at the load -i can't remember ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    M cebee wrote: »
    4% is the max installation VD

    or else for an appliance whatever the permissible voltage range is


    can it be stepped up auto-transformer style at the load -i can't remember ?

    It could be done like that, although if he is only using computer equipment then 1 kw might be enough coverage with 6 square. Seems an awful long run though 300 meters. I think we did do it though to run 3 fuel pumps before. Cant remember the distance but was around that distance now that i think of it. There was an emergency stop loop too so a loop to each pump and back to control board so the total emergency stop loop length was near 2 kilometers. I remember that bit.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 94 ✭✭TheDuderino


    So, we are talking big €€€€'s ???


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    Yup!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 630 ✭✭✭mazthespark


    what about a new supply for esb? i know it seems like overkill but mite work out cheaper depending on location of nearest pole etc. and you would never have a problem if your load increased. new supply will probably be about 1000e (not certain on that) and swa is a couple of euro per metre and u have all the digging to bury the cable, ductwork etc. might be worth looking into


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,940 ✭✭✭dingding


    M cebee wrote: »
    4% is the max installation VD

    or else for an appliance whatever the permissible voltage range is


    can it be stepped up auto-transformer style at the load -i can't remember ?


    If it is powering networking kit it might not be affected by voltage.

    Many devices are autoadjusting dual voltage 110 - 240 V so it might be OK.


  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 12,641 Mod ✭✭✭✭2011


    f it is powering networking kit it might not be affected by voltage.

    Many devices are autoadjusting dual voltage 110 - 240 V so it might be OK.

    Except that it is always better (and a legal requirement) to obey the ETCI regulations.


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