I propose rule change to gaelic football

Patsy fyre

Would like to hear of what other supporters think of this!
Having watched alot of football championship this year there are 2 changes I would like to see implemented to the game!

Firstly I would like the handpass over the bar to be removed. Its too easy for players to just fist it over. Getting rid of it would encourage more long range efforts which would make for better
viewing aswel!

The 2nd rule I would like to see removed is the one where teams can be restored to 15 players for extra time when the have a player sent off! This was highlighted in the dublin - wexford game. Dublin where allowed to bring in 2 new players for extra time. This meant they could introduce 7 players of the bench meaning there team will be fresher in xtra time therefore benefiting the team who gets the players sent off! Its the same game even though its extra time!
These changes are needed to improve football imo!

KevArno

Whatever about the extra time issue, I don't agree with removing the handpassed point. I can't see what exactly this will be improving. It will not encourage long range efforts, unless of course you want to see players turning back on themselves constantly looking for a more comfortable long range effort. I think it is a great tool in the arsenal of a quick thinking forward, about to be closed down, who hand passes it over the bar. A kicked point is just not always on. Football needs to be more direct, not slowing it down and forcing play away from the squares.

Clareman

Personally I think the easiest rule change to make in football to make it a better game would be to limit the amount of times you can play the ball with your hands. Say 4 times, you can catch it, bounce, toe tap, bounce, kick, or catch, bounce, tap, handpass/punch. I don't think it would be difficult to ref and it would cut out a lot of overly negative stuff

Mental_Legend

1. No.

2. Definitely yes

Mental_Legend

Clareman wrote: »

Personally I think the easiest rule change to make in football to make it a better game would be to limit the amount of times you can play the ball with your hands. Say 4 times, you can catch it, bounce, toe tap, bounce, kick, or catch, bounce, tap, handpass/punch. I don't think it would be difficult to ref and it would cut out a lot of overly negative stuff

Imagine you're the full forward in a team. Your forwards and the other team's backs are bunched up in midfield. The ball is kicked forward and you are the first there by a long way. No defenders in sight, 45 metres seperate you from the goal. You're the fastest guy in the forward line and you shoot off towards goal. You go up and score, only to find out that the goal is disallowed because you played the ball more than 4 times. Doesn't sound right, does it? That's something they do in training for underage players to encourage passing.

Clareman

Mental_Legend wrote: »

Imagine you're the full forward in a team. Your forwards and the other team's backs are bunched up in midfield. The ball is kicked forward and you are the first there by a long way. No defenders in sight, 45 metres seperate you from the goal. You're the fastest guy in the forward line and you shoot off towards goal. You go up and score, only to find out that the goal is disallowed because you played the ball more than 4 times. Doesn't sound right, does it? That's something they do in training for underage players to encourage passing.

Increase the amount of steps allowed between plays then, what's to stop the full forward "dribbling" the ball?

I don't mind the fisted/passed point, I think scoring should be encouraged, not hindered.

keane2097

Clareman wrote: »

Increase the amount of steps allowed between plays then, what's to stop the full forward "dribbling" the ball?

But sure that's the same as just not changing the current rule, except you make it easier for players who are bad at soloing.

That's an anti-skills move and that is something we should always be looking to avoid imo.

DH2K9

agree with the 2nd rule but the first is ludicrous.

jaakul

Clareman wrote: »

I don't mind the fisted/passed point, I think scoring should be encouraged, not hindered.

Hit the nail on the head there Clareman.

But definitely think the introduction of players after normal time in place of those red-carded is something that should be looked at

thebuilderbob

Patsy fyre wrote: »

The 2nd rule I would like to see removed is the one where teams can be restored to 15 players for extra time when the have a player sent off! This was highlighted in the dublin - wexford game. Dublin where allowed to bring in 2 new players for extra time. This meant they could introduce 7 players of the bench meaning there team will be fresher in xtra time therefore benefiting the team who gets the players sent off! Its the same game even though its extra time!
These changes are needed to improve football imo!

CORRECTION:

Dublin (or any other team) can introduce 15 new players for the beginning of extra time so your argument that they could be fresher is invalid. Extra time constitutes a new game.

However i agree with your principle and think teams should be punished for red cards for he full fixture.... eg a player who's team are a point ahead in the last minute takes an opposition player going for goal out of it knowing he can be replaced for extra time

Patsy fyre

Well you cant handpass the ball over The bar in hurling! This forces the player to shoot for goal. This would be the same in football which would result in more goals so the argument for stopping scoring doesnt hold up!

Think the pointed hand pass encourages teams to just handpass up the field then eventually fist it over instead of shooting from long range!

lucylu

I would agree with the notion a team should not be able to restore their team in Extra time.

A rule Change I would bring in that a Captain can only talk to the referee. There is too much lip given to referees at all levels in the game.

jdooley28

1. The goalkeeper should be allowed give a quick kickout from the hand or even a handpass. Would really speed the game up and improve it as a spectator sport IMO.

2. at inter-county level The umpires should have a roaming role with 1 always behind the goal viewing what goes on in the square and 1 going on and off the pitch as an extra set of eyes to help the ref.

Don't really agree with handpass over the bar thing but agree with the extra time 1.

D'Agger

jdooley28 wrote: »

at inter-county level The umpires should have a roaming role with 1 always behind the goal viewing what goes on in the square and 1 going on and off the pitch as an extra set of eyes to help the ref.

The problem with that is 2 umpires can fúck up calls often enough, one on his own shouldn't be allowed but an extra set of eyes for off the ball stuff should be looked at imo

KevArno

To be honest, I like the idea of the quick kick outs. It can be very frustrating watching the keeper going for the tee, setting up, pacing back looking around, and then kicking. A quick kick from the hands inside the square could speed up restarts.

I don't know if very much needs to be changed rule wise. I just think refereeing needs to be looked at. Refs are blowing up for every physical coming together now, and its slowing up the game.

yahoo_moe

I think they should stop the ball being thrown into the net for last-minute winning goals before they even think about doing away with the fisted point...

yahoo_moe

Oh and the comparison with hurling isn't valid if you ask me as the hurl can send a sliotar far further than any kick.

I assume that's what inspired the 'only 4 plays' idea as well, but again you've got the option of running with the ball on the hurl, for which there's no equivalent in football.

I think there's some major overthinking going on here.

DC_Roscommon

Maybe for the first award 2 points for points outside the 45? (Yes i know there is no chance of that happening)

Definitely agree with the second

Patsy fyre

The quick goal kick certainly should be looked at.

Just would like the handpass over the bar removed and force the player to go for goal!

Keano!

Mental_Legend wrote: »

1. No.

2. Definitely yes

DH2K9 wrote: »

agree with the 2nd rule but the first is ludicrous.

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Magi11

lucylu wrote: »

I would agree with the notion a team should not be able to restore their team in Extra time.

A rule Change I would bring in that a Captain can only talk to the referee. There is too much lip given to referees at all levels in the game.

Have to agree with this one. I have only started refereeing after a 15 year career and 3 years as just a spectator. Ive been stunned by the level of abuse that referees take. I never really noticed when I was playing or watching but it is really out of order. There are several players on each side who just seem to think that they can say anything to the ref. So far I've refereed 9 juvenile games and 3 adult and have sent 6 players off so far- all for abusive language. And just in case you are wondering none have been for f unless my mother was mentioned. The guy couldn't believe I was sending him off, so I would assume he was used to doing and getting away with this. The other 5 were for variations of the c word. Once again, shock when the straight red was produced. I took up refereeing because I want to stay involved and think I could do it fairly well. I'm not on a power trip, which has been trotted out at some games. I just happened to know the rules and as I played the game to a fairly high standard, also know all the crap that players pull. One manager asked me what his player said, and when I told him he said you have to expect that kind of thing!! I hate to say this but players will only stop abusing referees when they learn that it won't be tolerated. If it was up to me, I would send them off and give the opposition a 14 yard free, that would shut them up. So I would be in favour of just the captain talking to the ref. Of the original rules suggested, no to the first one, yes to the second one. Personally I'd bring back the "mark". But could I ask the original poster what is he/she going to do now? No point just mentioning here. Get down to you local AGM later this year and get it voted on. The decision to open Croke Park to soccer and rugby had the same humble beginnings!!!

rockape

I think the fist point is ok but I think the pick up from the ground should be done away with. I know it is a skill unique to the game but it results in silly frees and clumsy tackles and generally slows down the game. If you could pick the ball up as long as you were on one knee, we would see a much more free flowing game.

cc87

I dont think rules should be changed to make the sport more entertaining, the players and trainers etc are there to win, not entertain.

Of course an entertaining match which highlights skills will always be better, but i would take an all-ireland won by my county playing god awful boring stuff than losing playing the most skillful and entertaining football around.