Using another competitor's discarded tee

Su Campu

Your competitor tees off and leaves his tee on the tee box. You get up and pick it up, not knowing it's his, and tee off using it. Is that a breach?

And even if you did know it was his and were stuck for a tee, would that be a breach? If the tee was broken, would that make any difference?

Daithio9

Su Campu wrote: »

Your competitor tees off and leaves his tee on the tee box. You get up and pick it up, not knowing it's his, and tee off using it. Is that a breach?

And even if you did know it was his and were stuck for a tee, would that be a breach? If the tee was broken, would that make any difference?

What do you think yourself?

Su Campu

Daithio9 wrote: »

What do you think yourself?

I would take it as a breach, using another competitor's equipment. But what if you used a tee that had been there before, maybe from the previous day where there was no competition? Technically still a breach?

Tom Ghostwood

I use other peoples broken tees on par threes all the time.

UrbanSea

I can't imagine that it wouldn't be allowed. Never even thought of that question.

Daithio9

Su Campu wrote: »

I would take it as a breach, using another competitor's equipment. But what if you used a tee that had been there before, maybe from the previous day where there was no competition? Technically still a breach?

I'd say that'd be an overly strict and incorrect interpretation of the rule, afaik the only bit of equipement you cannot borrow or lend is clubs.

neckedit

Su Campu wrote: »

Your competitor tees off and leaves his tee on the tee box. You get up and pick it up, not knowing it's his, and tee off using it. Is that a breach?

And even if you did know it was his and were stuck for a tee, would that be a breach? If the tee was broken, would that make any difference?

I'd say your ok with that one.

Su Campu

Daithio9 wrote: »

I'd say that'd be an overly strict and incorrect interpretation of the rule, afaik the only bit of equipement you cannot borrow or lend is clubs.

I found this definition of Equipment on the R&A Rules of Golf site. Seems a tee is a piece of equipment when used for teeing off, so technically are we all breaching the rules??!!

“Equipment” is anything used, worn or carried by the player or anything carried for the player by his partner or either of their caddies, except any ball he has played at the hole being played and any small object, such as a coin or a tee, when used to mark the position of a ball or the extent of an area in which a ball is to be dropped. Equipment includes a golf cart, whether or not motorised.

Note 1: A ball played at the hole being played is equipment when it has been lifted and not put back into play.

Note 2: When a golf cart is shared by two or more players, the cart and everything in it are deemed to be the equipment of one of the players sharing the cart.

If the cart is being moved by one of the players (or the partner of one of the players) sharing it, the cart and everything in it are deemed to be that player’s equipment. Otherwise, the cart and everything in it are deemed to be the equipment of the player sharing the cart whose ball (or whose partner’s ball) is involved.

Daithio9

Su Campu wrote: »

I found this definition of Equipment on the R&A Rules of Golf site. Seems a tee is a piece of equipment when used for teeing off, so technically are we all breaching the rules??!!

Quoted from the decisions app on the randa website.

5-1/5 Whether Player May Borrow Balls from Another Player

Q. During a stipulated round, a player runs out of balls. May he borrow one or more balls from another player?

A. Yes. Rule 4-4a prohibits a player from borrowing a club from another player playing on the course but the Rules do not prevent a player from borrowing other items of equipment (balls, towels, gloves, tees, etc.) from another player or an outside agency. If the “One Ball” Condition in Appendix I is in effect, the player would need to obtain the same brand and type of ball as required by that condition.

Tom Ghostwood

I walked off the course at the midland boys in Birr years ago coz I ran out of balls. One of my playing partners was giving me a ball to play on with when the third guy from our group said it wasnt allowed. Balls!

soundsham

Su Campu wrote: »

Your competitor tees off and leaves his tee on the tee box. You get up and pick it up, not knowing it's his, and tee off using it. Is that a breach?

And even if you did know it was his and were stuck for a tee, would that be a breach? If the tee was broken, would that make any difference?

jesus wept.....

Fatswaldo

Some of us have too much time on our hands!

Sandwlch

What about if you do accept the tee from a playing partner, but after playing the shot, the tee flies. You and partners walk on without retrieving it. So you have not returned it, so you have not borrowed it - but taken it as yours and are now choosing not to search for it and return it. Are you then in breach of the rule?

PhilipMarlowe

It's not as serious a breach as visiting his house while he is out golfing and "borrowing" his missus...

heavyballs

Tom Ghostwood wrote: »

I walked off the course at the midland boys in Birr years ago coz I ran out of balls. One of my playing partners was giving me a ball to play on with when the third guy from our group said it wasnt allowed. Balls!

i wonder if he droppped it on the ground on purpose and walked away would it then be up for grabs,hence no peno

Woodgate

Is Su Campu, Conno is disguise??