LAP BELT

Randyleprechaun

Hi,

I want to fit a lap belt to the rear of my Austin Allegro. Does anyone know of any supplier in Ireland or online for them.

Thanks

Max_Damage

Lap belts will fook you up in a crash. Might aswell not have any belts at all.

Randyleprechaun

Any suggestions then on where to buy proper 3 point belts.

carchaeologist

you could fit them from another car?

macplaxton

Quickfit Safety Belt Services, Stanmore, Middlesex, UK or find a stockist that will supply belts made by Securon (Amersham, UK).

If it's a very late model, it should have rear anchorages as it was mandatory (from around 1981). (They may have built-in the mountings sooner, but you'd need to check.)

8~)

I'd look for belts from another car, preferably some from an 80s or 90s Austin or Rover, just to be in keeping with the car's family tree. For example the Maestro ran from 1983 to about 1998. You might be lucky and get the same shape buckles, etc. to be in keeping with the front belts.

I'd have no qualms about fitting second hand belts so long as they are not obviously damaged.

Mr Benevolent

Sounds obvious, but if you're buying them from a breaker, make sure they're taken from a car that hasn't been crashed Don't go near lapbelts.

Esel

Max_Damage wrote: »

Lap belts will fook you up in a crash. Might aswell not have any belts at all.

Yeah, I knew a guy who reckoned he didn't need to wear a front seat belt - he said he could just brace his arms against the steering wheel. Do you understand the laws of physics?

ianobrien

esel wrote: »

Yeah, I knew a guy who reckoned he didn't need to wear a front seat belt - he said he could just brace his arms against the steering wheel. Do you understand the laws of physics?

Max Damage is right. Lab belts are dangerous in cars, especially for childern.

Lap belts are used in aircraft and buses when you can brace yourself off the seat in front, and the seats are designed for that. In a car, the back of the front seats is not suitable (or high enough) to brace yourself off with a lap belt.

Mr Benevolent

esel wrote: »

Yeah, I knew a guy who reckoned he didn't need to wear a front seat belt - he said he could just brace his arms against the steering wheel. Do you understand the laws of physics?

Lap belts will cause serious injury in a crash due to loading on the abdomen and /or pelvis. Car manufacturers abandoned them years ago specifically because they were so dangerous. They are used in aircraft because of the lack of forward G in a survivable crash. They're only there to keep people from being thrown around, not as a passive load limiting aid.

Esel

Confab wrote: »

Lap belts will cause serious injury in a crash due to loading on the abdomen and /or pelvis. Car manufacturers abandoned them years ago specifically because they were so dangerous. They are used in aircraft because of the lack of forward G in a survivable crash. They're only there to keep people from being thrown around, not as a passive load limiting aid.

So, are you both saying that a lap belt is worse than no belt?

Max_Damage

esel wrote: »

So, are you both saying that a lap belt is worse than no belt?

More on par.

Randyleprechaun

Thanks for all the replies.

The car is 1977 and does have anchorage points, so that's a good start.

I am going to try and get belts from a car from British leyland as they will more than likely match the front ones. I may even be able to get front ones from an Allegro.

Thanks again for all the replies.

Hifive

Just a thought, I fitted rear 3 point inertia reel belts in my Triumph Stag with a kit bought from Rimmer brothers in the UK.

The car just had threaded mounting points under the rear seat for lap belts but the kit came with instructions to make a mounting point in the upper rear body (strut tower) for the diagonal belt mounting point.

While the kit is specifically for the stag, the instructions are fairly generic and I'm sure it could be adapted for the Allegro.
Cost was, less than €60.00 4/5 years ago.

Lyre61

I went into the local Motor factors and bought a set off the shelf for the SM.