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Breach of copyright?

  • 16-07-2010 10:40am
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭


    If a parent or a theatre records a child singing a pop song and posts the video on YouTube, would this be a breach of copyright? YouTube have flagged and disabled some videos posted of the kids on summer singing camp with a copyright claim. Personally, I think it's a frivolous action.


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,991 ✭✭✭mathepac


    shayser wrote: »
    If a parent or a theatre records a child singing a pop song and posts the video on YouTube, would this be a breach of copyright? ...
    If the song is copyrighted material, then the answer is yes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,381 ✭✭✭✭Paulw


    mathepac wrote: »
    If the song is copyrighted material, then the answer is yes.

    Unless the theatre company had permission to use the song, of course.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭shayser


    OK, I thought it would be ok, seeing as it was just the kids singing for the parents at a summer camp.

    So, I must receive permission from the copyright holder if, as a parent, I record my child singing publicly at a summer camp and post it on the internet? Would I be likely to get a response from the copyright holder (probably a record company) seeking permission to post the video, or would I get some sort of standard, polite PFO reply?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,991 ✭✭✭mathepac


    shayser wrote: »
    OK, I thought it would be ok, seeing as it was just the kids singing for the parents at a summer camp...
    It's someone's legally owned intellectual property, their livelihood. Why would you think it's OK to copy it without permission or payment?
    Paulw wrote: »
    Unless the theatre company had permission to use the song, of course.
    The theatre company should certainly have sought permission to perform the song for an audience in a theatre, but even then they might not have received permission to record it on film or another medium and broadcast it via the internet.

    Given that YouTube have agreements in place with record companies, performing rights organisations and licensing bodies I believe it is unlikely they'd allow it remain in place. Copyright holders seem reluctant to grant permissions retrospectively; their tendency seems to be to sue.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,650 ✭✭✭shayser


    Some suit earned his pennies today. This is one of the videos they have a problem with, an 11-year old singing her heart out for her parents and family:



    This event, organised so that young people could get involved in something worthwhile, was intended to break even, but ended up making a loss. Despite this, it was a fantastic week, organisers and kids alike worked hard and had a great time. Afterwards, the kids were proud to see themselves out there on the world wide web.

    Then Mr. Record Company Man decides he'll take a dump on the whole thing. No wonder so many artists and so much of the public have issues with the record companies.

    But hey, that's the law that we must respect.

    Now I'm only half interested to know why so many other cover songs are permitted on YouTube. Search for “cover songs” - results: 1 - 20 of millions


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46 cagney88


    You know that tv show the X-Files? In one episode, a character hums (not sings) one bar of the theme song 'I dreamed of genie' and that cost them $60,000.

    Youtube aren't taking you to court, there is no frivolous action to speak of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭Carawaystick


    shayser wrote: »
    Some suit earned his pennies today. This is one of the videos they have a problem with, an 11-year old singing her heart out for her parents and family:

    If you have a problem with youtube, buy your own domain name and host the video there.

    youtube don't wanna get sued, you aren't paying them to host your videos, so the course of least resistance is to bar your videos if someone complains.


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