moving to Christchurch or Ranelagh?

muineachan

Hi,

Viewing a place in Christchurch today, near the st patricks cathedral, i'd just like some advice on the area? Ive been there a few times, but whats crime, amenities etc like? It looks fine like, just if anyone knows any secrets about the place or anything I should know?

Was also thinking abour Ranelagh just because its come highly recommended but to be honest I'm not sold on it yet, what are the areas like comparable wise?

Go raibh maith agaibh

silverharp

Ranelagh by a country mile. Much safer area, easy access to city centre, allround more pleasant place. Rathmines is another place to consider, similar to Ranelagh. It depends what you want, gritty urban versus something a bit more leafy?

Wouldn't live in christchurch if you paid me, really not safe compared to Ranelagh afaik

edellc

agreed ranelagh is much nicer than christchurch and within walking distance from city centre also and without the hussle and bussle of rathmines but within 5mins of it for shopping ie dunnes, tesco, aldi and lidl you cant go wrong also cinema and video store and lots of shops...ranelagh is good for coffee shops and pubs and has the luas stop there too and is very safe and quite

tony 2 tone

I'm living in the Deans court Apartments on Patrick Street for the past year, and it's grand. Never had any hassle. And it's a short walk from every where really! Less than ten minutes from Dame street, close to lots of shops on Thomas/Meath street, Georges street, Stephen's Green.
The only thing is make sure the appartment is not facing the road, as it can be noisy with all the traffic.
As for gritty urban comment, you have the little park by Patrick's Catherdral, Stephen's Green and Iveagh Gardens all near by.
I have a feeling this is going to turn into a "I don't know the area but don't like it anyway" thread.

muineachan

I was gonna say, its hardly gritty urban, it has two massive cathedrals and leafy parks from what ive seen, but if thats the perception then fine. It is facing the road though on Patrick Street. I havent been to Ranelagh or Rathmines before though, except driving through, so I will give more thought to them now, I would like leafy and safe, and it seems to tick other boxes with pubs n shops + the luas.

Thanks for the advice

Gavin "shels"

tony 2 tone wrote: »

I'm living in the Deans court Apartments on Patrick Street for the past year, and it's grand. Never had any hassle. And it's a short walk from every where really! Less than ten minutes from Dame street, close to lots of shops on Thomas/Meath street, Georges street, Stephen's Green.
The only thing is make sure the appartment is not facing the road, as it can be noisy with all the traffic.
As for gritty urban comment, you have the little park by Patrick's Catherdral, Stephen's Green and Iveagh Gardens all near by.
I have a feeling this is going to turn into a "I don't know the area but don't like it anyway" thread.

Gotta agree here.

All the amenities you could want/need within a short distance.

One the crime side of things, a report was done in the Sunday Tribune last month about burglaries. Terenure is the closest Garda station that was included that would serve Ranelagh.

Kevin St (Dublin) 2008: 533 2009: 681 % Change: +28
Terenure 2008: 400 2009: 537 % Change: +34


You need to be a tad more specific OP, do you have a job planned and where is it? What amenities are you looking for? etc...

Kooli

Gavin shels wrote: »

Gotta agree here.

All the amenities you could want/need within a short distance.

One the crime side of things, a report was done in the Sunday Tribune last month about burglaries. Terenure is the closest Garda station that was included that would serve Ranelagh.

Kevin St (Dublin) 2008: 533 2009: 681 % Change: +28
Terenure 2008: 400 2009: 537 % Change: +34


You need to be a tad more specific OP, do you have a job planned and where is it? What amenities are you looking for? etc...

Why on earth would Terenure Garda station serve Ranelagh? Surely it would be Rathmines or Donnybrook...

PCPhoto

+1 for Ranelagh

its a bit more expensive than Christchurch - but you rarely see a junkie or someone passed out on the footpath. (I work near christchurch and a live in Ranelagh, I used to live along the quays a stones throw from Thomas street and christchurch - but moved after my car was broken into ...local kids just bored - they broke into several cars - they were off school and bored !!!)

Pigeon Reaper

Around Chirstchurch is fine. It used to be a bit rough in the 80's and early 90's but has settled alot. I find it amusing that because an area was a little deprived 20 years ago most people assume it's still the same without checking or noting any developments made since the 80's. The most recent stats from the Gardai show Ranelagh has a higher level of violent crime. You will however see some junkies around Thomas street due to the local treatment centre.

FruitLover

muineachan wrote: »

Viewing a place in Christchurch today, near the st patricks cathedral, i'd just like some advice on the area? Ive been there a few times, but whats crime, amenities etc like?

Christchurch has a high junkie population. I used to work right on the corner, and I wouldn't want to live around there unless it was in on a high floor of a secure apartment complex.

bugler

The areas are not comparable, to be honest.

Ranelagh is 'nicer', but is also more expensive and the housing stock may well be older.

muineachan

Mmmm thats interesting, over 2 crimes a day! Whats the world at? I work from home so no issues with needing to be in a specific area, but I favour Christchurch because its a short walk into town. Amenities, just shops, pubs, not looking for anything major, with Dublin on my doorstep nothings going to be that far away. I currently live in Balinteer and it's a pain. Ranelagh and Rathmines still seem a bit far from town, I know theres the luas and everything.

Ill check out this place,but to be honest I dont want to be coming home from a night out through a sea of junkies, or bring my mum down from Monaghan to see that! She'd be mortified.

Will line up some Ranelagh/ Rathmines appointments then!

muineachan

muineachan wrote: »

Mmmm thats interesting, over 2 crimes a day! Whats the world at? I work from home so no issues with needing to be in a specific area, but I favour Christchurch because its a short walk into town. Amenities, just shops, pubs, not looking for anything major, with Dublin on my doorstep nothings going to be that far away. I currently live in Balinteer and it's a pain. Ranelagh and Rathmines still seem a bit far from town, I know theres the luas and everything.

Ill check out this place,but to be honest I dont want to be coming home from a night out through a sea of junkies, or bring my mum down from Monaghan to see that! She'd be mortified.

Will line up some Ranelagh/ Rathmines appointments then!

You could try harolds cross, I lived there for a year and loved it. It's 20 mins on the bus and never seemed to catch much traffic at the hours I got it. Fastest time was 5 mins into town on a sunday morning :eek:

Gavin "shels"

Kooli wrote: »

Why on earth would Terenure Garda station serve Ranelagh? Surely it would be Rathmines or Donnybrook...

No Rathmines but a Donnybrook one

Donnybrook 2008: 475 2009: 417 % Change: -12

muineachan wrote: »

Mmmm thats interesting, over 2 crimes a day! Whats the world at? I work from home so no issues with needing to be in a specific area, but I favour Christchurch because its a short walk into town. Amenities, just shops, pubs, not looking for anything major, with Dublin on my doorstep nothings going to be that far away. I currently live in Balinteer and it's a pain. Ranelagh and Rathmines still seem a bit far from town, I know theres the luas and everything.

Ill check out this place,but to be honest I dont want to be coming home from a night out through a sea of junkies, or bring my mum down from Monaghan to see that! She'd be mortified.

Will line up some Ranelagh/ Rathmines appointments then!

Have you seen anywhere in specific in Christchurch you're looking at? Like road names or anything?

There's two roads I'd stay away from, that's Wintavern St and Cook St, mainly due to the methadone centre there.

Gavin shels

Gavin shels wrote: »

No Rathmines but a Donnybrook one

Of course there is a rathmines one, or did you mean none on that list?

muineachan

Yeah its on Patrick street, close to St Patricks cathedral.

edellc

i live in harolds cross at moment and although i like it its very quite and not near too many amenities (like the quite but pain in the ass dragging shopping home) and not crazy about the bus services....i lived in rathmines for over 10 years all up and down rathmines road lower and upper and loved how close it was to everything only thing is it is student heaven and can be very noisy especially grove park area.....my family are from around the bishop street area in town off aungier street and never had a problem being from inner city and around everything it really depends on what you are looking for there are good and bad everywhere and i think if you want to live in town you need to be in a secure apartment block really its only the further out you move that its not so bad living in less secure complexes

Gavin "shels"

bluewolf wrote: »

Of course there is a rathmines one, or did you mean none on that list?

Now what do you think Sherlock?

muineachan wrote: »

Yeah its on Patrick street, close to St Patricks cathedral.

Grand spot, as someone said already, make sure it isn't a road facing apartment so. Tonnes of buses go up and down Patrick St and mountains of cars etc... It's a grand spot, you've a Londis and a Spar 2 mins away and then for everything else is 10 mins away max, Supervalue, Lidl, Aldi, etc...

muineachan

yeah its facing the main road! Im viewing in half an hour, ill see how it sounds in there at rush hour, and make sure theres no double decker's peering in the window.

Thanks for the help

Kooli

Gavin shels wrote: »

Now what do you think Sherlock?

Just cos it's obvious what the actual truth is doesn't mean it's obvious what you meant!!;)

humberklog

Christchurch all the way OP. Far handier than Renelagh and really nothing to worry about around there. Sure Fallon's would be a grand local. However one thing I'd keep an eye on is which way the apartment faces. If it's onoto the main road then keep looking. The noise of traffic will drive you insane within a week. Beebobs belting up and down and buses rumbling along from early.
Very safe and handy but very noisey if apartment is street facing.

Yi Harr

Christchurch is served by Kevin street Gardai station. Would definitely recommend Ranelagh. While I had no real hassle when living there Christchurch is full of junkies, junkie faeces and tourists.

Gavin "shels"

humberklog wrote: »

Sure Fallon's would be a grand local.

Make sure there's no gangster having a pint in there though before you head in.

Yi Harr wrote: »

Would definitely recommend Ranelagh. While I had no real hassle when living there Christchurch is full of junkies, junkie faeces and tourists.

I love this whole junkie malarky, head and sand come to mind.

tony 2 tone

Yi Harr wrote: »

Christchurch is served by Kevin street Gardai station. Would definitely recommend Ranelagh. While I had no real hassle when living there Christchurch is full of junkies, junkie faeces and tourists.

:rolleyes:

Make sure there's no gangster having a pint in there though before you head in.

Huh? I hope not, only pub in the area that no one was shot in :P (Joke, it's still a great spot)

humberklog

Hang on...enough of this crapola. A guy's come on asking about christchurch(but means more Pat's Cath. end) versus Ren. and people are talking about the place being over-run with junkies. OP this is simply crap. It's not.

Down from Christchurch towards Liffey yes.

Take and say what you want about around there but it does not have a junkie problem on the streets. In absolutely no way does it. And that's fact.

muineachan

Thanks. I was down there now the apartment was grand, have to say I didn't see any junkies, it looked very nice to me, apartment was quite noisy with the road so I have mixed feelings about it, didn't see anything wrong with the area, but will check a few places in ranelagh first,

Thanks again everyone

humberklog

Mu. the noise will drive you potty if the pad is street facing. And come Tuesday evening you'll have a sniper rifle out picking off the campanologists in St. Pat's.

tony 2 tone

humberklog wrote: »

Mu. the noise will drive you potty if the pad is street facing. And come Tuesday evening you'll have a sniper rifle out picking off the campanologists in St. Pat's.

Oh **** yeah, ther has been a couple of times on the weekend, the morning after, and the fecking bells would be kicking off for ages! :mad:
You do get used to the sound of the traffic though, after a while. :P

Yi Harr

Gavin shels wrote: »

head and sand come to mind.

Whatever works for you.

Am just speaking from my own experience and yes, Christchurch as a while is not junkie infested but there are quite a few parts of it that are.

I lived in Saint Augustine Street for a couple of years and was regularily treated to the sight of people shooting up in the grounds of the old school. I've also seen them on numerous occasions with their pants around their ankles shooting up on Johns Lane, John Street, Vicar Street and Francis Street.

On the other hand, I've also lived around Ranelagh and can safely say I've never seen anyone shooting up around there.

Micilin Muc

You'll really like Ranelagh if you're a Gaeilgeoir (which you seem to be). Scoil Bhríde & Lios na nÓg run events in Irish quite often and you'll hear families speaking Irish out and about.

Gavin "shels"

Yi Harr wrote: »

Whatever works for you.

Am just speaking from my own experience and yes, Christchurch as a while is not junkie infested but there are quite a few parts of it that are.

I lived in Saint Augustine Street for a couple of years.

I've lived down the road from Patricks St for 19 going-on 20 years, went to school in St.Patricks Grammar School and well if you're going to judge an area on a few junkies in a park well that kinda rules out many many places.

muineachan

Micilin Muc wrote: »

You'll really like Ranelagh if you're a Gaeilgeoir (which you seem to be). Scoil Bhríde & Lios na nÓg run events in Irish quite often and you'll hear families speaking Irish out and about.

Oh really? Thats great, definitely a big plus for me and will swing it if I can find a place in Ranelagh as nice as the place in Christchurch in the same price range, to be honest though, it's going to be harder to find a place as nice as the one I viewed yesterday for the same price in Ranelagh, it looks like I'd have to up the budget or go in a ground floor apartment with horrible deco! Ive a few viewings in Ranelagh lined up tomorrow, I'll let ye know how they compare.

Yi Harr

Gavin shels wrote: »

if you're going to judge an area on a few junkies in a park well that kinda rules out many many places.

In the school yard, on the road, on the pavement, in the carpark of the apartment complex I was living in. Have lived in other areas where the use of drugs would be classed as problematic but have never lived anywhere where it was as visible a problem as around Christchurch.

donaghs

Gavin shels wrote: »

I've lived down the road from Patricks St for 19 going-on 20 years, went to school in St.Patricks Grammar School and well if you're going to judge an area on a few junkies in a park well that kinda rules out many many places.

You won't see much of that in Ranelagh. I knew a guy who worked in the Civic Offices beside Christchurch and he regularly had stories about all the junkies hanging around there. e.g. the worst they saw was a junkie thinking he could "hide" in the shrubbery beside the Office and take a dump. But not realising that although he couldnt see in, all the staff on inside could see him.

Also knew someone renting an apartment on Essex St nearby. Junkies sometimes would "tailgate" people into the apartment so they could use the stairwells to shoot-up. And then leave all their detritus behind. I'm not saying its always like that, or that everyone experiences these things. But the difference between the two areas is clear to me. Main advantage of Christchurch is if you work very near to it (Ranelagh has the Luas and is right beside town), or if you like the nightlife nearby.

Gavin "shels"

Gavin shels wrote: »

There's two roads I'd stay away from, that's Wintavern St and Cook St, mainly due to the methadone centre there.

donaghs wrote: »

You won't see much of that in Ranelagh. I knew a guy who worked in the Civic Offices beside Christchurch and he regularly had stories about all the junkies hanging around there.

Already pointed out to the OP not to buy down by the Civic Offices as there's a methadone clinic and well that's why they hang around down around there.

jdivision

I'd have no problem living in Christchurch but traditionally there has been heroin dealing just past the Jurys Inns and at the junction of Thomas Street. Again it's nothing major though, you'd see a lot worse on the quays most days

muineachan

I went down again today and I have to admit I did see quite a few scumbags around the Thomas at the junction with Christchurch but it looked grand down towards st pats, think I'm going to move in there. Bit of a weird area tbh looks very mixed, one min it looks nice n tourists everywhere next it's scumbag central with vodka bottles in the alleys.

You'd have thought the council n the guards would do something about it considering the tourists

southsiderosie

Yi Harr wrote: »

Whatever works for you.

Am just speaking from my own experience and yes, Christchurch as a while is not junkie infested but there are quite a few parts of it that are.

I lived in Saint Augustine Street for a couple of years and was regularily treated to the sight of people shooting up in the grounds of the old school. I've also seen them on numerous occasions with their pants around their ankles shooting up on Johns Lane, John Street, Vicar Street and Francis Street.

On the other hand, I've also lived around Ranelagh and can safely say I've never seen anyone shooting up around there.

I had the same experience - when I first arrived in Dublin I lived off of St Augustine street, and there were way too many sketchy characters huddled in doorways at 2 in the afternoon for my taste...not to mention the sessions at the edge of the park past the Viking site...or the packs of unsupervised children running around at night...or the constant arguments in or in front of the local convenience store...of the neighbors blasting electronic dance music at all hours of the night...

On the other hand, I loved Ranelagh - both the Beechwood and Ranelagh Luas stops are handy, it's quiet, there are lots of nice shops (and the owners remember the locals and keep an eye on things in the area), and I never felt unsafe walking home at night from the city center. The only annoying thing were the packs of yummy mummies with giant strollers and poorly-behaved children that occasionally took over my favorite coffee shop, but that's about it.