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ebay issue

  • 13-07-2010 7:24am
    #1
    the groutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭


    recent sold an item, and stated that I would only send to UK or Ireland
    at the last minute a french buy has put in a winning bid, and wants me to post to her

    it's not about the postage cost I don't want to sell to her, I've just had some bad experiences before with posting to Europe, and register post is useless outside Ireland or UK

    do you think I should send it to her anyway, or do it the way I'd prefer, sending a polite email saying I'm not going to send it, and make a 2nd chance offer to the next bidder?


Comments

  • #2
    Judgement Day
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,549 ✭✭✭✭Judgement Day


    My experience of the Third World European postal system (excluding Germany and Scandinavia) and eBay would suggest that posting to France is a bad idea. If you specified in your bidding requirements that you would only post to UK and Ireland I'd stick with that.


  • #3
    Ticktactoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 765 ✭✭✭Ticktactoe


    This is totally your call.
    However sending it by courier you can track it and get a signature for it. If she really wants the item then she can pay the courier cost of it.


  • #4
    jor el
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    What's her feedback like? Anything suspicious about the account or any contact you've had with her? Things like; I want to buy your item (without mentioning what it is) for my brother who is in the army and living in Nigeria, and stuff like that?


  • #5
    mickoneill30
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,073 ✭✭✭mickoneill30


    I'd price it with someone like DHL who track it properly and get a signature at the destination.
    Then let her know the price.
    If she wants to pay that then fine. You'll have it registered and insured to the door.


  • #6
    Max Power1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,272 ✭✭✭✭Max Power1


    I wouldnt. As you say, irish postage tracking is useless outside UK/Ireland/Usa.

    If she has already paid id refund and offer a 2nd chance offer.

    (alternatively as mentioned, advise that the item was listed uk&ireland only, if she wants more she can pay addiitional postage costs with a more reliable insured courier)


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  • #7
    Ticktactoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 765 ✭✭✭Ticktactoe


    Max Power1 wrote: »
    I wouldnt. As you say, irish postage tracking is useless outside UK/Ireland/Usa.

    If she has already paid id refund and offer a 2nd chance offer.

    (alternatively as mentioned, advise that the item was listed uk&ireland only, if she wants more she can pay addiitional postage costs with a more reliable insured courier)

    Dont go through the Irish postal system - An post. Go with DHL, DPD, Fedex etc. They will cost extra but if she wants the item she will pay for the shipping. Then you have a track & trace on it.
    If you get the consignment number of the parcel you can track it yourself through the couriers website and will see when she receives it.

    I would point out to her that you did state on your advert that you dont ship to France however id give her the option of the courier and state the price.


  • #8
    the groutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    thanks for the feedback guys, I suggested courier, but she didnt want to pay the extra (it's not a very high value item), she pretty much waived her right to make a paypal claim by accepting any risk if the item doesnt get to her (and I have this in a email as proof), so I feel that's sufficent cover for me to make the exception this time. (btw, for those who were asking, she has 100% feeback of 45)


  • #9
    Bob Z
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,587 ✭✭✭Bob Z


    the groutch wrote: »
    thanks for the feedback guys, I suggested courier, but she didnt want to pay the extra (it's not a very high value item), she pretty much waived her right to make a paypal claim by accepting any risk if the item doesnt get to her (and I have this in a email as proof), so I feel that's sufficent cover for me to make the exception this time. (btw, for those who were asking, she has 100% feeback of 45)


    I dont know if she can waive her rights like that


  • #10
    the groutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    well I'm gonna take my chance on it, she doesnt really scream out scammer


  • #11
    jor el
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,713 ✭✭✭✭jor el


    the groutch wrote: »
    she pretty much waived her right to make a paypal claim by accepting any risk if the item doesnt get to her (and I have this in a email as proof),

    That is worthless, Paypal will not care if she does raise a dispute.
    the groutch wrote: »
    so I feel that's sufficent cover for me to make the exception this time. (btw, for those who were asking, she has 100% feeback of 45)

    Not so bad, if you're confident enough about it then go ahead.


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  • #12
    Bob Z
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,587 ✭✭✭Bob Z


    the groutch wrote: »
    well I'm gonna take my chance on it, she doesnt really scream out scammer

    She probalby isnt but hing can still get lost in the post


  • #13
    Ticktactoe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 765 ✭✭✭Ticktactoe


    I think your mind is made up.
    Hope all turns out well! :)


  • #14
    Max Power1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,272 ✭✭✭✭Max Power1


    Bob Z wrote: »
    I dont know if she can waive her rights like that
    She most certainly cant - it wont make an ounce of difference if she claims against you anyway!


  • #15
    Nolimits
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,663 ✭✭✭Nolimits


    Just make sure your funds are in your paypal account before you ship it(by logging onto paypal.com not clicking any links in any emails). And withdraw/spend it straight away.


  • #16
    delllat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭delllat


    Nolimits wrote: »
    Just make sure your funds are in your paypal account before you ship it(by logging onto paypal.com not clicking any links in any emails). And withdraw/spend it straight away.

    that wont help,they wilkl just debit your bank account account or credit card

    if you had set up the auction better you could have blocked her completely from being able to bid using buyer exclusions but u live n learn #

    if u dont ship it she can report you for seller non performanace and leave negative feedback

    if she says she didnt get it ,shes getting a full refund regardless


  • #17
    Max Power1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,272 ✭✭✭✭Max Power1


    delllat wrote: »
    that wont help,they wilkl just debit your bank account account or credit card

    if you had set up the auction better you could have blocked her completely from being able to bid using buyer exclusions but u live n learn #

    if u dont ship it she can report you for seller non performanace and leave negative feedback

    if she says she didnt get it ,shes getting a full refund regardless
    No, they wont.

    They can send debt collectors and close your ebay/paypal accounts, but they have NO authorisation to charge your bank account or credit card without your say so.


  • #18
    Bob Z
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,587 ✭✭✭Bob Z


    delllat wrote: »

    if u dont ship it she can report you for seller non performanace and leave negative feedback

    can she do this? It did say in the desciption it wasn't going to be posted overseas


  • #19
    delllat
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,388 ✭✭✭delllat


    Bob Z wrote: »
    can she do this? It did say in the desciption it wasn't going to be posted overseas

    she most certaintly can if shes the winning bidder ,ebay is not exactly fair when it comes to sellers

    if she won it and you refuse to post it to her they probably wont even hear your side of the case


  • #20
    Caliden
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,982 ✭✭✭Caliden


    Max Power1 wrote: »
    No, they wont.

    They can send debt collectors and close your ebay/paypal accounts, but they have NO authorisation to charge your bank account or credit card without your say so.

    Contrary to what you think, they can and will charge your bank account:
    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055950365


  • #21
    Max Power1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,272 ✭✭✭✭Max Power1


    Caliden wrote: »
    Contrary to what you think, they can and will charge your bank account:
    http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055950365
    that case is different, if you already have a direct debit instruction given to paypal the yes, they can charge your bank account.

    To do so without a valid DD authorisation is fraud and theft, and cannot be allowed


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