TNA iMPACT! Spoilers for this Thursday.

waltersobchak

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TNA Impact opens with Mike Tenay and Taz discussing Victory Road and its aftermath.

Abyss comes out with his board of nails, which has a piece of raw meat hanging off of it, and cuts a promo. He named his board "Janice" and starts beating the meat to death with the board. The crowd chants for RVD, then chants "Beat that Meat." Abyss tells RVD not to worry, because this is going to happen to him. Abyss actually broke the board because he was hitting the mat so hard with it.

*Abyss had ripped up the apron so the crew was changing it. While that was taking place, they showed Taylor Wilde and Sarita brawling all over backstage. Neither one has the upper hand as the video ends. They brawl into the Impact Zone and then to ringside. It's a really good brawl. Wilde tosses Sarita into the first row and chokes her with a purse strap. She chokes out Sarita to get the win, so it was some sort of unannounced hardcore bout.

*There's a backstage segment with Kevin Nash and Miss Tessmacher that I wasn't able to hear clearly.

*X-Division champion Douglas Williams vs. Brian Kendrick is up. Lots of dueling chants followed by a USA chant. Good back and forth match. Kendrick locks in the Cobra Clutch and Williams quits. After the match, Kevin Nash comes out and Kendrick has words with him. Nash chokeslams him.

Nash demands that Hulk Hogan and Eric Bischoff give him TV time and says he's a living legend. He said that he is going to make an example out of Brian Kendrick but Jeff Jarrett comes out. He tells Nash to settle down or he could end up suspended like Sting. Jarrett tells Nash an egotistical son of a b**ch who cares about nothing but money. Jarrett says that since he took care of Nash, Nash got it. Nash walked off, leaving Jarrett in the ring.

*Samoa Joe vs. Rob Terry vs. Desmond Wolfe. The match starts with both Terry and Joe beating up Wolfe. Wolfe rolls to the outside and then Terry and Joe start beating up each other. Wolfe comes and start to take advantage of the situation. Samoa Joe gets the win via a submission on Wolfe. The camera focuses on Chelsea, who is none too pleased and walks off angry as Wolfe trails behind.

*First in a Best of Five Series: TNA Tag Team champions The Motor City Machineguns vs. Beer Money Inc. Only way to win is to grab the contract. I guess TNA feels the way a lot of fans do about the teams stealing the show last night. All I can say is thank you to TNA for giving us more! Beer Money is out first and James Storm cuts a promo, noting they are tired of getting screwed. Beer Money wins so they lead 1-0. The match was freaking incredible. The Guns grabbed the contract first but James Storm cracked the beer bottle, making one of the Guns drop it and he scooped it up. Big spotlfest with lots of using the ladder as a base and a weapon. Way too much going on to describe, but worth going out of your way to see. I can't wait for the next match..

*Jay Lethal vs. Jeff Hardy is announced for Hard Justice PPV.

*Pope Dinero pinned Matt Morgan. Pretty simple, nothing much to report from the bout itself. After the match, Morgan attacked Pope and set him up against the post for the Carbon Footprint but Ken Anderson made the save. He tossed Pope in the ring, then worked over Morgan. Anderson tried to shake hands with Pope but Pope, remembering their past, doesn't shake it. Anderson heads up the ramp.

*Backstage, Madison Rayne is acting like she's above Lacey Von Erich and Velvet Sky. Velvet gets angry and storms off.

*Madison Rayne comes out to protest the referee's decision at the PPV. She says TNA has seven days to give her the belt back or she will sue TNA. The Beautiful People come out and demand an answer as to why Rayne has recruited the motorcycle woman without their permission. Rayne calls Sky a dumb blonde. Sky responds in time. Velvet threatens to kick Rayne's a** when TNA Knockouts champ Angelina Love comes outt. She says Sky was the one driving the bike which Sky denies and storms backstage, telling Love that Rayne is all hers. Rayne demands her title. Love and Rayne begin fighting. The motorcycle woman arrives and helps Rayne. Love is left beaten down and Rayne leaves with the Motorcycle woman.

*Jeff Hardy pinned Jay Lethal with a swanton in a good back and forth match. The former ECW crew showed up in the crowd during the match. He and Lethal shake hands.

*During a break, Jeremy Borash announced they will be doing special PPV packages for VIPS every month going forward.

*The final segment is an announcement from Ric Flair. Ric Flair comes out with AJ Styles and Frankie Kazarian. Flair said that the PPV was the worst night of his career, then announces Styles and Kaz as the first two members of Fortune. Desmond Wolfe came out and protests, but Abyss hits the ring so they all leave. Abyss calls out Rob Van Dam. He tells RVD "they are coming" and once "they get here", no one can stop them. He tells RVD that he has been instructed to bring them the TNA title. He says at Hard Justice, they are going to hang Janice 15 feet in the air and have an Extreme Anything Goes match. RVD and Abyss start fighting. Abyss gets the upper hand. Ink, Inc. comes out to help but aren't able to stop Abyss. The former ECW guys hop the rail as Mick Foley appears on the stage. They charge the ring and attack Abyss to rescue RVD. Security, agents and TNA wrestlers hit the ring and it's a crazy brawl. Names like Al Snow and Devon side with the ECW guys and it's the former ECW brawling with everyone and anyone asssociated with TNA and the crowd is going nuts for the two sides. Dixie Carter is trying to keep the peace but it's impossible. In the end, ECW takes over with Foley in charge. The end was awesome and actually better than the WWE vs. Nexus angles as everyone fought and no one ran away after 30 seconds.

Best of 5 series between the Guns and Beer Money = Awesome

The ECW mark in me is actually very excited to see this show, and cant believe im saying that!

the drifter

ECW FTW!!!!!!

grames_bond

Sounds like a great iMpact! but 1 problem....

Jay Lethal vs. Jeff Hardy is announced for Hard Justice PPV.

then

Jeff Hardy pinned Jay Lethal with a swanton in a good back and forth match.

why are TNA constantly giving away PPV matchs for free.....theres no way they can get buys if they keep doing this!

JP Liz V1

Lethal is getting a fairly good push

The Guns V Money best of 5 series will be great

Machismo Fan

grames_bond wrote: »

why are TNA constantly giving away PPV matchs for free.....theres no way they can get buys if they keep doing this!

The other two sets of spoilers for this show that I've read mentioned nothing about Lethal/Hardy at Hard Justice so it may have just been a misunderstanding. And if the top ten rankings were paired into singles matches, there's a potential 45 matches so they can keep doing this for a while, plus TNA don't do PPV buys anyway.

I'm looking forward to The Guns/Beer Money and that ECW angle looks rather similar to The Riot angle they did last year which was great.

thebostoncrab

I'll watch the show, but the ECW angle just doesn't interest me.

Look at Nexus on Raw, it's pushing new guys up the card. This is getting MORE old guys involved in a main angle that have gone past their peaks and probably won't be in TNA this time next year. If they bring some on the home roster into the group then maybe it can work.

Machismo Fan

thebostoncrab wrote: »

Look at Nexus on Raw, it's pushing new guys up the card. This is getting MORE old guys involved in a main angle that have gone past their peaks and probably won't be in TNA this time next year. If they bring some on the home roster into the group then maybe it can work.

The problem is there's more talent left in that ageing ECW group than there is in the Nexus. As a short term thing that ECW group should make for some interesting TV.

JP Liz V1

I'll take the ECW Geriatrics over the MEM (bar Angle) any day

grames_bond

at least they finally did something instead of just appearing an interrupting matchs week in week out!

waltersobchak

Machismo Fan wrote: »

The problem is there's more talent left in that ageing ECW group than there is in the Nexus. As a short term thing that ECW group should make for some interesting TV.

No there isn't.. In fairness to Nexus they actually have some talent, whereas a group containing Dreamer, Raven, Richards etc in 2010 is hardly an innovative or even relative angle, honestly your TNA bias blinds you Machismo Fan

paddyismaddy

foley back as ecw leader = win for me

plus the guns/beer money best series should be ace

starviewadams

The only thing that interests me out of all that happenned on Impact was Beer Money vs MCMG,everything else including the ECW 'invasion' is pretty meh.

Still,at least TNA had one thing that interests me,WWE hasnt had anything remotely interesting since the Danielson/Cole mini-feud.

Machismo Fan

waltersobchak wrote: »

No there isn't.. In fairness to Nexus they actually have some talent, whereas a group containing Dreamer, Raven, Richards etc in 2010 is hardly an innovative or even relative angle, honestly your TNA bias blinds you Machismo Fan

Nexus has one talent that has the ability to get beyond the mid-card. Slater is nothing more than a tag wrestler, Sheffield is rubbish all round, Otunga can talk but he's the worst I've seen in the ring in a long time, Gabriel is a hell of a wrestler but once a microphone is put in front of him he flops, Darren Young is the definition of mediocre, Tarver is useless and Barrett is the only one that can rise above. Never mistake relevance with talent. There's a reason all they're doing is beatdowns and that's because their limitations prevent them from doing anything else.

WWE are putting an awful lot of time and investment into a group which is just unable to deliver and provide any long term return. TNA aren't banking on the ECW guys to carry the company in the future - they're just there for the means of a storyline and to maybe pull in a few more viewers. Raven, Dreamer, Rhino, 3D and RVD have much more talent left towards the end of their careers than the Nexus guys - who don't even show promise or potential. I'm by no means biased because I don't even like half the ECW guys and feel TNA could better spend their time on others but that doesn't mean I don't recognise what the ECW guys have left to offer - within the context and environment of the storyline they can offer some entertaining brawling and interesting TV especially through Foley and Raven interviews.

Shaneomac

The whole ECW thing is just intended as added bait for Heyman to think about. The thing I like about TNA is that for all its flaws, theres always the prospect of something new or unexpected good or bad, which makes you look forward to the show. Looking forward to Thursday with anticipation. Can Foley work many more dates this year based on his contract?

waltersobchak

Machismo Fan wrote: »

Nexus has one talent that has the ability to get beyond the mid-card. Slater is nothing more than a tag wrestler, Sheffield is rubbish all round, Otunga can talk but he's the worst I've seen in the ring in a long time, Gabriel is a hell of a wrestler but once a microphone is put in front of him he flops, Darren Young is the definition of mediocre, Tarver is useless and Barrett is the only one that can rise above. Never mistake relevance with talent. There's a reason all they're doing is beatdowns and that's because their limitations prevent them from doing anything else.

WWE are putting an awful lot of time and investment into a group which is just unable to deliver and provide any long term return. TNA aren't banking on the ECW guys to carry the company in the future - they're just there for the means of a storyline and to maybe pull in a few more viewers. Raven, Dreamer, Rhino, 3D and RVD have much more talent left towards the end of their careers than the Nexus guys - who don't even show promise or potential. I'm by no means biased because I don't even like half the ECW guys and feel TNA could better spend their time on others but that doesn't mean I don't recognise what the ECW guys have left to offer - within the context and environment of the storyline they can offer some entertaining brawling and interesting TV especially through Foley and Raven interviews.

In fairness WWE have made Nexus the focus of Raw, with very little investment needed and its been an largely entertaining angle, at least WWE are trying to do something with them, and have done a decent job in hiding the majority of their weaknesses and making the faction look strong. Obviously the angle was originally supposed to promote the "NXT" brand to the casual fan for season 2, but at least its something slightly original, unlike TNA, who are again going back to the 1990's well and rehashing old storylines that they had no part in creating, also the fact that you see no potential in young guys at the start of their WWE careers, but think that 3D, Dreamer, Raven and Rhino can still contribute anything to TNA( ie ratings which is still their fu*king holy grail at the end of the day) is pretty short sighted.

Machismo Fan

waltersobchak wrote: »

In fairness WWE have made Nexus the focus of Raw, with very little investment needed and its been an largely entertaining angle, at least WWE are trying to do something with them, and have done a decent job in hiding the majority of their weaknesses and making the faction look strong. Obviously the angle was originally supposed to promote the "NXT" brand to the casual fan for season 2, but at least its something slightly original, unlike TNA, who are again going back to the 1990's well and rehashing old storylines that they had no part in creating, also the fact that you see no potential in young guys at the start of their WWE careers, but think that 3D, Dreamer, Raven and Rhino can still contribute anything to TNA( ie ratings which is still their fu*king holy grail at the end of the day) is pretty short sighted.

The Nexus angle is not in any way innovative - the initial angle was unique but since then it's been no different than any invading force angle like the nWo, Invasion or Main Event Mafia. Besides Barrett, Nexus is a group of bad talent who just cannot carry the weight of the angle. They have to wrestle sometime and when they do in any competitive manner - their fundamental flaw will be quickly revealed and people will feel ripped off. They haven't even helped increase interest in season two of NXT. I see potential in Wade Barrett, I see potential The Miz, I see potential in Alex Riley but I see no potential in the other six Nexus guys. They just aren't good enough.

Unlike the Nexus, the ECW storyline is designed as a short term storyline - not something to help launch the future of the company. Raven can cut one of the best promos in wrestling, as can Foley, 3D have the phenomenal ability to draw a reaction out of a crowd - face or heel, Rhino is still young enough to contribute to TNA long term and RVD is good enough to provide main event quality matches and they can all still brawl with the best of them which is really all that is needed for the angle - there's no denying that they are drastically more talented still than the Nexus guys.

D2D

We wait ages for an invasion storyline then 2 come along at once.

I'm loving iMPACT! lately so this look's like another strong episode

Mr.Nice Guy

Machismo Fan wrote: »

The Nexus angle is not in any way innovative - the initial angle was unique but since then it's been no different than any invading force angle like the nWo, Invasion or Main Event Mafia. Besides Barrett, Nexus is a group of bad talent who just cannot carry the weight of the angle. They have to wrestle sometime and when they do in any competitive manner - their fundamental flaw will be quickly revealed and people will feel ripped off. They haven't even helped increase interest in season two of NXT. I see potential in Wade Barrett, I see potential The Miz, I see potential in Alex Riley but I see no potential in the other six Nexus guys. They just aren't good enough.

Unlike the Nexus, the ECW storyline is designed as a short term storyline - not something to help launch the future of the company. Raven can cut one of the best promos in wrestling, as can Foley, 3D have the phenomenal ability to draw a reaction out of a crowd - face or heel, Rhino is still young enough to contribute to TNA long term and RVD is good enough to provide main event quality matches and they can all still brawl with the best of them which is really all that is needed for the angle - there's no denying that they are drastically more talented still than the Nexus guys.

Disagree with you on both points. Firstly, it's too early to say the Nexus angle has been like every other invasion angle. The big reveal of who they are taking orders from is a significant part of the angle. As for them not being good wrestlers, I'm afraid the ECW guys aren't any better. At least the Nexus guys are fit enough to go.

Secondly, and I think this point has been made elsewhere, if Heyman does go to TNA he will NOT want to push guys like Raven, Dreamer etc. These guys are past it. Honestly there is so much more potential in the Nexus crew than the ECW alumni. If Raven is so great on the mic why hasn't he been used by the company in recent times? Same goes for Rhino's ability. 3D are useless and well beyond their best. Foley can contribute, but it's asking a lot for him to hold together this angle.

What made ECW work was Heyman. He knew how to take very basic guys and make them come across like stars. Sandman, Dreamer, etc. Without him all you have is the basic guys, trying to get over on a name that legally they won't even be allowed to reference. I think the whole thing is lunacy. You say it's not a long-term plan. The company has had an awful year and needs long-term planning.

The beauty of Nexus, and what makes it work, is that it's a bunch of fresh faces who are making a name for themselves. This is a whole lot better than guys who peaked ten years ago trying to recapture their old glory. I predict this to flop within weeks.

I know you want TNA to succeed, and I do too as I want there to be competition, but promoting these old-timers who never achieved a great deal of mainstream fame anyway isn't the way to do it. Abyss couldn't get over with arguably the biggest name in wrestling behind him and now they're trying it with ECW guys? They should be focusing on MCMG, Beer Money, Styles, Joe, etc. If Heyman does go to TNA, and I will need to see it to believe it, first thing he will do is figure out a plan to kill this angle. I'm sure of it. It will do as much as good as VKM did for TNA.

waltersobchak

Machismo Fan wrote: »

The Nexus angle is not in any way innovative - the initial angle was unique but since then it's been no different than any invading force angle like the nWo, Invasion or Main Event Mafia. Besides Barrett, Nexus is a group of bad talent who just cannot carry the weight of the angle. They have to wrestle sometime and when they do in any competitive manner - their fundamental flaw will be quickly revealed and people will feel ripped off. They haven't even helped increase interest in season two of NXT. I see potential in Wade Barrett, I see potential The Miz, I see potential in Alex Riley but I see no potential in the other six Nexus guys. They just aren't good enough.

Unlike the Nexus, the ECW storyline is designed as a short term storyline - not something to help launch the future of the company. Raven can cut one of the best promos in wrestling, as can Foley, 3D have the phenomenal ability to draw a reaction out of a crowd - face or heel, Rhino is still young enough to contribute to TNA long term and RVD is good enough to provide main event quality matches and they can all still brawl with the best of them which is really all that is needed for the angle - there's no denying that they are drastically more talented still than the Nexus guys.

Honestly what has Raven done since 1997 to justify being one of the best promos in wrestling, RVD is a shadow of his former self, both in the ring and his waltered down version of his cocky ECW persona(which by the way is really getting on my nerves) Foley and the Dudleys are still awesome on the mic, but again Rhino is a shadow of his former ECW self and has been of TV so long i fail to see how he can still connect with the fans..

Wheras Nexus are an upstart group, who fair enough arent perfect but are the central storyline of WWE's flagship show and therefore, by association, have made their collective whole worth more than the sum of their parts, at the end of the day imho a group of young guys like Nexus are more exciting to me than the ECW originals, all TNA need now is Terry Funk.. Honestly they're onr step away from that

Machismo Fan

I don't think it's fair to completely dismiss the ECW guys. By all accounts the angle at the end of the iMPACT! taping was awesome and in the right scenario these guys can recapture the magic. Look at Raven's match with Daffney against Taylor Wilde and Abyss last June and some of the promos leading to it, or 3D's feud with Beer Money, or a few of Rhino's brawls in recent years. They haven't been used recently because TNA have been focusing on younger guys and rightfully so but I see no reason why these guys can't be used for an angle like this. They can still deliver the all-out brawl that will most likely be the payoff. I don't see this angle as a year long story but a few PPV's at most and within that context there is no problem with the people involved.

The problem with the Nexus angle isn't necessarily the storyline but the talent. They just aren't good enough to deliver what's needed when the time comes to do it and the angle will flop. You can't do beatdowns every week, the law of diminishing utility kicks in (it kind of already is) and when they have to wrestle their limitations show immediately.

Machismo Fan

waltersobchak wrote: »

Honestly what has Raven done since 1997 to justify being one of the best promos in wrestling, RVD is a shadow of his former self, both in the ring and his waltered down version of his cocky ECW persona(which by the way is really getting on my nerves) Foley and the Dudleys are still awesome on the mic, but again Rhino is a shadow of his former ECW self and has been of TV so long i fail to see how he can still connect with the fans..

Oh I agree on RVD - I despise the guy. He has the biggest ego in wrestling and that's saying something. But he can still deliver a perfectly satisfying and interesting PPV main event. Not to the same level Angle, Joe or Styles can but he can still do it. Raven's promo work in TNA has always been very, very good. Rhino will be over simply by association. He's still quite young (only 34) and the crowd are reacting to the group very well so they'll most likely react to him aswell. Just see some of his brawls in 2006/7 to see that he can still go if motivated which he should be given the focus the angle will get. As I said above, I see no problem with this angle as an interesting short term feud.

Vince135792003

10 years ago when the WWE did the ECW invasion for basically one night, when you had WWF vs. WCW Vs. ECW I was so excited. Even though I had seen very little of ECW, it represented all that was cool and edgy in pro-wrestling.

10 long years later and ECW and it's wrestlers just don't have the same appeal. To me they are the band you thought were so cool when you were a teenager but now that your older, you second guess whether to put them on your MP3 player today because maybe they weren't as good as you thought they were.


However, if TNA can do the storyline right it could be entertaining and boost them in the short term.

flahavaj

Put me in the camp that has absolutely no interest in seeing the ECW guys yet again in an invasion style angle, especially in 2010. Jesus like, it was stale when they did it in 2002/3 on the old TNA weekly PPV's.

Let the f*cking ECW brand die FOR THE LOVE OF GOD.

Shaneomac

Ecw isnt going anywhere anytime soon. Thursday will hopefully be must-see tv. The relaunch a few years ago had awesome angles especially by Foley and if TNA can make it even a fraction of that level, should be one to remember, at least until Heyman comes in when ECW will be here to stay.

D2D

TNA have put up pictures of tonight's ECW invasion on Impact! on their website as a sneak peak. The pics can be seen here

Machismo Fan

The Guns/Beer Money match made me giddy at times. Great match.

JohnMc1

As a former ECW fan its time to move on. ECW had its day and now its gone. The only thing I look forward to if Heyman signs is the inevitable shoot against the TNN/Spike execs [especially if they are the same ones when Heyman/ECW were on Spike] He will definitely shoot on them for using them to lure WWE to the network, then burying them and refusing to let them negotiate with another network that led to their demise, then only for WWE to turn around and go back to USA network after a couple of years.

D2D

Here it is, the ECW invasion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9YSYrTiBl8

Vince135792003

Dare_2_defy wrote: »

Here it is, the ECW invasion

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9YSYrTiBl8

6 out of 10. It was fine but it came across messy more so than being dramatic.

I didn't get why Al Snow was confused at the end. Shouldn't the TNA guys have looked surprised that Dixie invited them and not the actual invaders?

waltersobchak

Cops at a wrestling event?? Really?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-bSZd1vM_A

D2D

waltersobchak wrote: »

Cops at a wrestling event?? Really?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-bSZd1vM_A

:pac:

Machismo Fan

Vince135792003 wrote: »

I didn't get why Al Snow was confused at the end. Shouldn't the TNA guys have looked surprised that Dixie invited them and not the actual invaders?

I think the idea was that Snow was a TNA agent that sided with the ECW guys during the brawl rather than him being one of those invited. The angle was fine to build towards what appears to be a short term payoff - nothing special but pretty good..

Vince135792003

Machismo Fan wrote: »

I think the idea was that Snow was a TNA agent that sided with the ECW guys during the brawl rather than him being one of those invited. .

Oh ok, I get that.

grames_bond

the commentators made a big deal out of dlo and al snow siding with ecw but didnt mention the tna champ rvd siding with them! or dvon when he ran to the ring! should have gone crazy over that!

Penn

Okay, so I've never watched TNA before, bar a few clips here and there, but got UPC installed at the weekend, so I managed to catch the second half of last weeks impact (the one before Victory Road) and the second half of this episode (I was out and forgot about it)

Have to say, I did quite enjoy it. There were some definite high points in both episodes. The tag matches between Beer money and MCMG were awesome, as was MCMGs promo ad thing (Paid for by the Beer Money are tools Foundation)

Although I have to say, matches were way too short. In this weeks, they kept bigging up how its a first time match between Jeff hardy and Jay Lethal (who I really like). Yet they got damn all time. Same with Pope v Morgan (2 others I really like).

The finish to the tag team ladder match was disappointing too. Why they couldn't have had the guy from Beer Money smash the bottle over the guy from MCMG before he got the contract and then get it himself is beyond me.

As for the ECW invasion bit, it was alright, although seeing Stevie Richards help take out half the TNA roster was just weird. In fact, seeing the 4 of them beating up all these other guys just didn't sit right. But I'm interested to see where it goes

One last thing. Is Janice actuall going to be used on anyone? At least Foleys barb wire bat was believable. This thing actually looks like it could kill someone. No way should that be used. They should have RVD destroy Janice, then have the title hung above the ring and make that match a title match. Abyss goes crazy because RVD destroyed Janice.

Anyway. I quite enjoyed it, so I'll keep watching for another while. Some definite highlights, they just need more wrestling time.

gimmick

Machismo Fan wrote: »

The Guns/Beer Money match made me giddy at times. Great match.

Ya, it was great for the amount of time given. The spot with the ladder on the outside when Roode was lying on it was lovely.

While I agree that the ECW thing should just be let go and everything, I actually quite enjoyed the brawl at the end of Impact. Interested to see how it pans out.

Machismo Fan

gimmick wrote: »

While I agree that the ECW thing should just be let go and everything, I actually quite enjoyed the brawl at the end of Impact. Interested to see how it pans out.

It's the first time in a long time that TNA ended iMPACT! on an interesting cliffhanger. Hopefully next weeks show is good enough to keep any extra viewers that may tune in (and it actually looks like it could be).

Vince135792003

TNA rating for last week: 1.09

Machismo Fan

Here's the quarter hour breakdown:

TNA Impact on July 15 scored a 1.09 rating off a first hour 1.06 rating and second hour 1.11 rating.

Looking at the quarter-hour numbers, the show peaked with a 1.16 rating in Q5 to start the second hour. The show's low point was a 0.96 in Q1 to start the show.

The much-talked-about ECW Invasion angle scored a 1.09 rating in Q8, which was right at the show's average. The second hour scored higher ratings in Q5 and Q6.

The following is a segment-by-segment break down of the first and second hour's quarter-ratings.

First Hour

Impact opened with a show-low 0.94 quarter-hour rating for Abyss's opening promo and the announcement of the new Top 10 Rankings.

The show increased to a 1.04 rating in Q2 for the Taylor Wilde vs. Sarita street fight and the X Division match between Doug Williams and Brian Kendrick.

The quarter-hour was still below the show's average of 1.09 as the audience seemed to be slow joining Impact at the start of the show.

The first hour then peaked in Q3 with a 1.14 rating for Jeff Jarrett and Kevin Nash's promo exchange, followed by the Samoa Joe vs. Rob Terry vs. Desmond Wolfe three-way match. Q3 scored the second-highest quarter-hour rating of the entire show.

The first hour ended with a slight drop to a 1.11 rating in Q4 for the end of Joe-Terry-Wolfe, Ric Flair backstage with a promo, and the beginning of the Motor City Machineguns vs. Beer Money match.

Second Hour

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The second hour started with a 1.16 rating in Q5, which was the peak rating of the show. The segment included the end of the Guns vs. Beer Money match, which is proving to be a ratings draw. Q5 also included the Matt Morgan vs. "The Pope" D'Angelo Dinero match.

After Impact peaked in Q5, the show dropped off just slightly to a 1.12 rating in Q6 for the post-match angle with Morgan, Pope, and Mr. Anderson. Also included in Q6 was a Beautiful People talking segment that went on for a while.

The seventh quarter-hour dropped a little more to a 1.08 rating for the end of the Beautiful People's talking segment and the Jeff Hardy vs. Jay Lethal main event. It was the lowest-rated segment of the second hour.

TNA continuing to give away PPV-caliber matches on free TV without setting up the matches ahead of time with proper build-up is not proving to be a ratings draw.

The show then closed with a 1.09 rating in Q8. The segment started with a Ric Flair promo, then continued with Abyss's run-in, then Abyss and RVD talking, then the much-talked-about ECW Invasion angle. It added up to only a slight increase compared to Q7. Also, it was below the quarter-hour ratings for Q5 and Q6.

Good to see it peak during The Guns/Beer Money match.

Vince135792003

Machismo Fan wrote: »

Here's the quarter hour breakdown:


Good to see it peak during The Guns/Beer Money match.

Treadmill TNA ratings. I have this fear that I'll be at retirement age and their ratings will be between 1.0 to 1.2 with their 1.4 million viewers.

Machismo Fan

Vince135792003 wrote: »

Treadmill TNA ratings. I have this fear that I'll be at retirement age and their ratings will be between 1.0 to 1.2.

At least they've managed to get back to where they were and the recent shows have been good but I still doubt they'll do anything higher than a 1.2 regularly for a very long time. Though I suppose as long as Spike are happy then TNA shouldn't have too much of a problem.

Vince135792003

Machismo Fan wrote: »

At least they've managed to get back to where they were and the recent shows have been good but I still doubt they'll do anything higher than a 1.2 regularly for a very long time. Though I suppose as long as Spike are happy then TNA shouldn't have too much of a problem.

I can't imagine Spike are overly impressed with them this year. Alot of investment and the best TNA can say is that they are nearly back to where they were before they spent all the money on the people they did albeit with even worse ppv numbers and slightly better house show attendence.

I am a bit of a statistics nut. So to see their rating being the same for basically the last 5 years just annoys me especially when you see The Ultimate Fighter shows ratings soaring when they get the right guy in on their show like Kimbo Slice or a Ortiz and use them to build a compelling show. Ratings jumps are possible.

It's not like TNA's rating is that impressive. WCW when they were at their lowest going out of business were doing better by 150% getting 2.5s.

Machismo Fan

Vince135792003 wrote: »

I can't imagine Spike are overly impressed with them this year. Alot of investment and the best TNA can say is that they are nearly back to where they were before they spent all the money on the people they did.

The Spike average is a .6 so TNA still should still be in their good books as they well exceed that. But yeah, TNA's upward mobility in the last five years has been nothing short of atrocious. They have seen no increase despite the increase in talent and star power.

Vince135792003

Machismo Fan wrote: »

The Spike average is a .6

Is that their overall average rating or their average rating for primetime shows like TNA?

Machismo Fan

Vince135792003 wrote: »

Is that their overall average rating or their average rating for primetime shows like TNA?

http://www.f4wonline.com/content/view/14084/105/

--In last week's cable ratings, USA was first at 2.1 to 1.8 for TNT. Syfy was up to No. 9 with a 1.1 average, so for the first time, WWE programming this week fell well below the network average. Spike was No. 23 at 0.6. The two hours of Raw were No. 6 and No. 8. Lebron-The Decision, at 7.0 on Thursday, was the highest rated cable show of the week. The second hour of Raw was No. 10 in 18-34 and the two hours were No. 5 and No. 7 in 18-49.

It doesn't really specify.

Bob the Seducer

In TNA's long and storied history of dropping the ball with their booking, failing to push Rhino properly after these promos is one of the things that annoys me the most.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lr8klcvYlAw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOI7zlY6CsE