Galway Football Board to jettison Kernan

Submara

Strong indications from reliable football sources in Galway that Kernan will be given his P45.

Opinions?

oneillMan999

never shudda been hired IMO..

MfMan

But what does it say about the official who basically went on a one-man crusade to hire him? Doesn't reflect too well on him unfortunately....

Starie1975

How ya now lads? I've only missed two games this year, Cork away and New York away. Season tickets holder going to Galway GAA matches all my life. Saturday was another dark day for the tribes. To be honest I'm hurting more from the Louth match than the Galway match. Hard luck to Louth BTW.

Should Kernan get the P45 - YES! What has he to show from this year’s campaign? A win over New York, That’s it!

1- Dropped Toto Griffin, why? Because he played a club match, really dropped a young lad for playing a match for his local club.
2 - Big Barry is not everyone's cup of tea but at least he gives you an option, dropped him?
3 - Left Burke on Kelly for two games didn't even switch Fitzys with him, some sort of moment, change it around a bit. I know Ray Silke said that that Burke had no one in front of him but that doesn't stop you marking your man.
4 - His back room team? Where do I start on them two?
5- Playing players outta position.
Conroy outta position and then dropped him, the only one to get dropped from the first game, a blow to the young lad’s confidence and it showed last Saturday. How did Bergin come out for the second half of the first game???
Sice is a wing back, play him there.
Concannon is a corner forward he's not a defender, he spend most of his time back in his own half. He got taken off on Saturday, why I ask ya. Leave him in the full forward line.
In the second game vs Silgo Clancy was doing alright in the half forward line in the first half, Meehan got injured and what do the MGMT do, put Clancy in the full forward line and Concannon still roaming around the place.
O Donnell and Bergin are about 20 miles out of position.
6- Bane left on the bench for 140 minutes, Mullahy left on the bench for 140 minutes?
7- O Donnell couldn’t run in the last ten minutes of the match and Dec Meehan up beside me in the stand???????

I could go on all day.

Joe close the door on your way out.

toiletduck

Well he hasn't delivered and the team looked poorer in recent times. A bad league and very bad championship run.

Hmm, I just dunno.

Shane10

they will prob try and tempt kevin walsh away from sligo after this season....:mad:

patmac

I saw Galway v Kerry in the league earlier and as far as I can see the only thing that Kiernan brought to Galway was the ability to add a few late digs which is not Galway's style, mind you Meehan's loss was huge.
Maybe Aer-Arrans flight money might be better spent.

ayup

Johno to return maybe

Diabhal Beag

We can all joke about John O'Mahony coming back but even in his worst year we played better football than this year.

I'd love to see big Kev coming back home

aidan24326

ayup wrote: »

Johno to return maybe

No chance. I don't think you'll see O'Mahony back in management anytime soon, not while he's a TD anyway.

As for Kernan, I'm undecided to be honest.

On the one hand you could argue that he was a bit unlucky. The injuries to Nicky Joyce and especially Meehan came at the worst possible time, and I think it's fair to say we'd have beaten Wexford with Meehan on the pitch. Even without him Galway were a bit unfortunate to lose that game, and alot of dubious refereeing decisions went Wexford's way. A shade unlucky to lose in Sligo aswell, where a draw and extra time would have been a fairer outcome.

On the other hand some of his decisions have been baffling. Playing Eoin Concannon out around the middle of the field, and Matthew Clancy in the full forward line. Did he get them mixed up or something??!! And he was very slow to make changes in the two Sligo games. The half forward line that was selected for the Wexford game was so negative, all 3 of them workhorses rather than proper scoring forwards. Cormac Bane saw no gametime at all against Sligo, despite him being one of our most accurate forwards.

I have good reason to believe that there was some disharmony within the camp also, but I don't whether or how much Kernan can be blamed for that.

WallyGUFC

Shane10 wrote: »

they will prob try and tempt kevin walsh away from sligo after this season....:mad:

They might try, and I'm sure he wants to manage Galway sometime, but not now. He's loyal, and while he sees potential with Sligo he won't ditch them. They're in a better place than Galway atm.

SomeFool

You could do worse then someone like Jason Ryan, I think it's has last year at Wexford, but maybe a younger manager might be worth taking a chance on.

mink_man

• not playing mullahy was a bad decision
• concannon was playing as a defender
• relied to much on joyce
• armstrong should look for the ball more
• bane should be starting
• clancy isnt good enough on the ball to play the role he was given
• conroy gave the ball away poorly
• hanley played decent as did o donnell
• coleman is a decent fielder of the ball but doesnt do enough defensive or attack wise#
• bergin imo should be played full forward, with joyce close by and meehan in the corner

aidan24326

mink_man wrote: »

• not playing mullahy was a bad decision
• concannon was playing as a defender
• relied to much on joyce
• armstrong should look for the ball more
• bane should be starting
• clancy isnt good enough on the ball to play the role he was given
• conroy gave the ball away poorly
• hanley played decent as did o donnell
• coleman is a decent fielder of the ball but doesnt do enough defensive or attack wise#
• bergin imo should be played full forward, with joyce close by and meehan in the corner

I agree with your points except this one. Niall Coleman actually had a good game, a rare good performance by a Galway midfielder.

Starie1975

Mink_Man, Aidan and the majority of Galway fans, how come we can all see how come the management can't?

Big Joe started off on the wrong foot by picking his two selectors.
I'll highlight another point it's a small point but it shows the lack of management skills in the Galway set-up.

After Galway scored the first point I turned to my fellow club man and said "no spare ball behind the goal!"
We were playing with the wind and on top on Wexford. It took the Galway management teamanother 10 minutes to figure this out.
Had to laugh, Sean fada had to ask JJ for the footballs and barely got them, he then walked at snails pace down to the goal. It was too late at this stage.
Again I'll state that this is only a minor detail but it's stuff a Junior C manger would know and he works for free.

Gingy

I'm not from Galway and don't know the full details of the situation, but I don't think Kernan should be sacked. I hate this new soccer-culture where managers are sacked after 3 championship matches. Sligo are a better team than Galway and the Wexford game was a major shock result. Give him a bit more time, unless you can be guaranteed a top replacement. Galway should be doing a lot better, I was at the Dublin v Galway league match and Galway were quite good that night, I thought they would win Connacht handy enough this year, but sacking Joe after one year seems a bit harsh, doesn't give him enough time to build his own team.

Starie1975

This has nothing to do with "soccer-culture", as a GAA man I resent that. This has to do with getting the simple things done right. The fee he's being paid is huge (allegedly), I know the exact figure if the mod allows me to divulge. Pay a man that amount of money, for what? A win over New York (only for PJ).

A GPS doesn't show you that you lost four kick outs in a row in the last five minutes vs Silgo.

Starie1975

http://www.hoganstand.com/Galway/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=132004

Galway football board chairman John Joe Holleran has jumped to Joe Kernan's defence in the wake of the Tribesmen's early exit from the All-Ireland race.

The Armagh legend's reign could be over after just one season following Galway's shock defeat to Wexford in last Saturday's All-Ireland qualifier clash at Pearse Stadium.

But Holleran said: "No effort was pared by players, management and backroom team. Anyone who say all the effort they put in all year will appreciate how disappointing it was to go out of the championship."

Kernan will meet with football board officials in the coming weeks to decide his future.

"It was agreed we'd sit down at the end of each year and see where we're going. That's what will happen," Holleran added.

Shane10

The fee he's being paid is huge, I know the exact figure if the mod allows me to divulge.

what is it?? its no crime to say that sure???

aidan24326

Starie1975 wrote: »

Mink_Man, Aidan and the majority of Galway fans, how come we can all see how come the management can't?

I don't know to be honest. You'd always allow a manager time to settle in and get to know his players, find his way. But some of the things he's been getting wrong are fairly basic.

At the same time the players have to take their share of the flak too. Have they learned nothing? Two weeks in a row Galway had the game won only to blow it in the last couple of minutes. All that was needed was a little bit of cuteness at that stage. Foul the Wexford players way out the field. Go down injured, waste time etc.

When Armstrong was taking that 45 near the end, Joyce shouted at him to kick it dead. What does Armstrong do? Drops it short, for Wexford to counter-attack and score a vital point. Sadly Joyce is still the only real leader in this team. The likes of Bergin, Armstrong, Fitzy have never stepped up to that sort of role. I think it's time to start giving some younger players a go. The likes of Bergin, Blake, Clancy, Declan Meehan etc have nothing left to offer anymore (though in fairness Dec Meehan can retire with his head held high).

aidan24326

Shane10 wrote: »

what is it?? its no crime to say that sure???

Think the mods might frown on that to be honest. But when he says 'huge sum' I think we can all make a fairly educated guess at the sort of numbers involved. It's hardly a secret that the top managers are being well paid anyway, this has been going on for a long time. The GAA have said it's an issue they're going to tackle but I don't see how thay can police it, since I'm assuming it's all cash under the table and not really traceable.

Starie1975

aidan24326 wrote: »

When Armstrong was taking that 45 near the end, Joyce shouted at him to kick it dead. What does Armstrong do? Drops it short, for Wexford to counter-attack and score a vital point. Sadly Joyce is still the only real leader in this team. The likes of Bergin, Armstrong, Fitzy have never stepped up to that sort of role. I think it's time to start giving some younger players a go. The likes of Bergin, Blake, Clancy, Declan Meehan etc have nothing left to offer anymore (though in fairness Dec Meehan can retire with his head held high).

It was a free, remember PJ ran back into his own 45 got the ball, brought the ball all the way up to his own 45 and got brought down for a free, he was a minute on the ground and the ref called 5 minutes inj-time. Army had taken two frees from a similar position and one dropped short and he kicked one wind. Cormac Bane should have been given that kick………………again where was the call from the MGMT?

Coogee

Mick O'Dwyer has often stated his admiration for Galway football. What are the odds of him being manager if Kernan goes?

Shane10

Coogee wrote: »

Mick O'Dwyer has often stated his admiration for Galway football. What are the odds of him being manager if Kernan goes?

zero id say, as i said in a post earlier more likely that after this season if joe goes they might tempt kevin walsh. if he wins the connaught title this sunday he may see it as thats as good a job as he could have done as well as 2 promotions with sligo. hope not though as were after the all-ireland :P

aidan24326

Starie1975 wrote: »

It was a free, remember PJ ran back into his own 45 got the ball, brought the ball all the way up to his own 45 and got brought down for a free, he was a minute on the ground and the ref called 5 minutes inj-time. Army had taken two frees from a similar position and one dropped short and he kicked one wind. Cormac Bane should have been given that kick………………again where was the call from the MGMT?

Armstrong isn't a particularly reliable freetaker. Our two first-choice freetakers were sitting up in the stand injured though, so what can you do. But yes I agree that Cormac Bane should have been given that free, especially as he was kicking so well up to then. Bane is very underrated and I really couldn't understand why he wasn't being given a game in either of the Sligo matches, especially since a few of the starting players weren't exactly covering themselves in glory. He's a very unfussy player, get ball, boot it over the bar.

I also thought the Galway management handled Concannon very badly. They asked him to play completely out of position and then took him off after 20 mins, even though he was doing no worse than anyone else. I really don't see the sense in that. He's an out-and-out corner forward, a scoring forward, so I'd love to hear Kernan explain the rationale for asking him to play as a roving defensive ball-winner, something he is not and never will be, and a job that Matthew Clancy often does to good effect anyway. On top of that, we had 3 grafters in the half forward line already, so there was no logic at all in sending Concannon back aswell.

Starie1975

aidan24326 wrote: »

Armstrong isn't a particularly reliable freetaker. Our two first-choice freetakers were sitting up in the stand injured though, so what can you do. But yes I agree that Cormac Bane should have been given that free, especially as he was kicking so well up to then. Bane is very underrated and I really couldn't understand why he wasn't being given a game in either of the Sligo matches, especially since a few of the starting players weren't exactly covering themselves in glory. He's a very unfussy player, get ball, boot it over the bar.

I also thought the Galway management handled Concannon very badly. They asked him to play completely out of position and then took him off after 20 mins, even though he was doing no worse than anyone else. I really don't see the sense in that. He's an out-and-out corner forward, a scoring forward, so I'd love to hear Kernan explain the rationale for asking him to play as a roving defensive ball-winner, something he is not and never will be, and a job that Matthew Clancy often does to good effect anyway. On top of that, we had 3 grafters in the half forward line already, so there was no logic at all in sending Concannon back aswell.

For sure, see point 5 of my first post on this topic. Why was Concannon taken off.....................poor MGMT!!!

busbybhoy

Diabhal Beag wrote: »

We can all joke about John O'Mahony coming back but even in his worst year we played better football than this year.

Maybe that was because ye had the players then??? I cant see him going back to inter county management again. Worrying times ahead for Galway looking at that Senior squad and the recent underage results???

Hopefully not....I cant imagine life without Mayo/Galway Connaught finals

mrgaa1

was reading through this thread and I honestly think you could replace Galway with Armagh throughout. Big Joe is a terrible manager and lost Armagh 3 All-Irelands - and if rumours were right up here he made sure we lost one of them - but he didn't.
Joe did change things with Crossmaglen - that club won 13 county titles in a row (under 3 or 4 different managers) and should have won a few more club all-irelands such is Crossmaglens conveyour belt that they had then and most definetly have now.
At inter-county level it has been shown that the most succesful teams have had their manager from within their own county.