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Video Evidence in GAA

  • 11-07-2010 2:43pm
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,976 ✭✭✭


    Should video evidence be brought in to GAA after Meath steals Louths chance to be Leinster champs?

    more importantly how shocking was it to see the referee attacked after the game??

    Louth not only lose... but are now seen as savages


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,351 ✭✭✭✭starlit


    very much agree with that. surprised he allowed the goal at all. i'd hope they might have a replay which would be fairer to deal with that last minute situtation. very stunned how the referee was treated.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,551 ✭✭✭panda100


    Absolutely.The lack of consitency in gaa refering ,especially when it comes to goals, is really turning me off the sport.

    Absolute disgarce that Meath were awarded that goal,this type of thing happens again and again. The GAA MUST be dragged into the 21st century after this game and use video. Its worked wonders for rugby, and noone feels cheated at the end of a game.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,124 ✭✭✭✭My name is URL


    No need for video tech being added as a change in rules.. semi-competent umpires would do


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,567 ✭✭✭delta_bravo


    The GAA uses video evidence to give suspensions to players. The ref consulted an official nearest the area- the umpire who gave the goal. Even if there was in game video reffing i doubt the ref wouldve used the facility in that case


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,215 ✭✭✭scrubber72


    I dont think video or cctv should be brought into the game. in the incident today the umpires should of got it correct. They are there to help assist the ref and they got it wrong. As for the arguement about a replay I cant see it happening. Not after the cup being awarded to meath. Louth missed a few perfectly good chances to close out the game and the fans although rightly p1ssed did not do their case any good by tackling the ref.


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 27,862 Mod ✭✭✭✭Posy


    .. semi-competent umpires would do
    But as we don't seem to have any, video tech is probably needed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,551 ✭✭✭panda100


    No need for video tech being added as a change in rules.. semi-competent umpires would do

    For goals I think it needs video tech, because there doesnt seem to be a consensus among ref's and umpires what is and isn't a sqaure ball.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 148 ✭✭BrenosBolts91


    panda100 wrote: »
    Absolutely.The lack of consitency in gaa refering ,especially when it comes to goals, is really turning me off the sport.

    Absolute disgarce that Meath were awarded that goal,this type of thing happens again and again. The GAA MUST be dragged into the 21st century after this game and use video. Its worked wonders for rugby, and noone feels cheated at the end of a game.
    I agree there should be some sort of reply system,but to introduce such a system,video screens would have to be installed in grounds all over the country in the interest of fairness. I dont see the GAA doing that.

    *excuse my jammy spelling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,535 ✭✭✭Radharc na Sleibhte


    Brendog wrote: »
    Louth not only lose... but are now seen as savages

    Well they lost, and then acted like savages....??!!!

    Hopefully, they will use the video evidence to ban the "fans" that attacked the ref.

    You'd wonder how the GAA would need video evidence with two umpires on the goal line. How the three officials can give the goal at the end is truly just amazing. I'm shocked and speechless at the events. Totally ruined the win for me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,976 ✭✭✭Brendog


    I dunno how systems are set up in other countries but I highly doubt that if video systems were brought into the GAA that it would have to be installed in all pitches that host matches included in tournaments


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,401 ✭✭✭Royal Irish


    Brendog wrote: »
    Should video evidence be brought in to GAA after Meath steals Louths chance to be Leinster champs?

    more importantly how shocking was it to see the referee attacked after the game??

    Louth not only lose... but are now seen as savages

    Seen as savages? If that happened Dublin the referee would have been gunned down in a hail of bullets :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,346 ✭✭✭✭homerjay2005


    no. too much happens in gaa to use video refs. normally, even the video evidence cant tell the full picture and peoples opinions are split.

    what we do need is f8cking umpires and lines men being refs themselves and not just the refs uncle, 70 year old neighbour or father in law...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,551 ✭✭✭panda100


    I agree there should be some sort of reply system,but to introduce such a system,video screens would have to be installed in grounds all over the country in the interest of fairness. I dont see the GAA doing that.

    *excuse my jammy spelling.

    No you wouldnt need to install it in every single gaa ground. You just need it in the major stadiums,like the IRFU did. Thats only three stadiums in Munster and 2 in Leinster etc.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    It would be so simple to have a ref sitting in a similar setup to the RTE studio - he could look at a replay in seconds and relay necessary info to a ref through an earpiece with no need to stop the game for prolonged periods like in rugby.

    It should definitely be done for games where cameras are already in the grounds imo.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Video replays are needed without a shadow of a doubt.

    There's too much to lose and human umpires/refs can't be trusted.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Cork just given a point for a clear wide in the Munster Final as well - jokeshop tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,401 ✭✭✭Royal Irish


    Brendog wrote: »
    Should video evidence be brought in to GAA after Meath steals Louths chance to be Leinster champs?

    more importantly how shocking was it to see the referee attacked after the game??

    Louth not only lose... but are now seen as savages

    Seen as savages? If that happened Dublin the referee would have been gunned down in a hail of bullets :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 23,316 ✭✭✭✭amacachi


    Just watching Cork and Waterford, I thought a shot was wide, commentators thought it was wide, umpire on the post didn't give it but the the umpire further away from it did. Great system eh?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 150 ✭✭tracy wacy x


    don't think they should bring in video tech
    they should get rid of them f**kin blind umpires

    i think any team woud act that way after the match

    like meath have ruined louth chance

    they should be ashamed

    stupid ref :mad:

    stupid umpires :rolleyes:

    poor louth :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,976 ✭✭✭Brendog


    Smiley face :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,385 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    panda100 wrote: »
    No you wouldnt need to install it in every single gaa ground. You just need it in the major stadiums,like the IRFU did. Thats only three stadiums in Munster and 2 in Leinster etc.

    So the Connaught final shouldn't have video replays so?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    So the Connaught final shouldn't have video replays so?

    do you not know what "etc" means?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,385 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    keane2097 wrote: »
    do you not know what "etc" means?

    Of course but it's alot alot more that 3 in Munster and 2 in Leinster. Championship games in Munster can take place in any of 5 or 6 venues.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    the only reason there should be video evidence from the football game today would be to ask the umpires why they allowed the goal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Of course if the umpires always made the correct decisions we wouldn't need steps like these, but you have to be realistic.

    In GAA games, the officials make a very high percentage of incorrect decisions. This has not improved over the years, and there is no reason to suggest it will improve.

    Video technology could and should be used where available to help officials make correct decisions very quickly and easily, it seems very simple to me.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 15,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭rebel girl 15


    keane2097 wrote: »
    Of course if the umpires always made the correct decisions we wouldn't need steps like these, but you have to be realistic.

    In GAA games, the officials make a very high percentage of incorrect decisions. This has not improved over the years, and there is no reason to suggest it will improve.

    Video technology could and should be used where available to help officials make correct decisions very quickly and easily, it seems very simple to me.

    Video technology - if a professional organisation like FIFA won't bring it in, I don't see how the GAA will. It will cost too much!

    What we need is to train referees, linesmen, and umpires properly. Make the refs professional or semi professional - pay them all properly and train them properly. Not enough is done to get referees to the top level - and this thing about having only that small panel of refs for inter county is ridiculous!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,084 ✭✭✭Barname


    Brendog wrote: »
    Should video evidence be brought in to GAA after Meath steals Louths chance to be Leinster champs?

    more importantly how shocking was it to see the referee attacked after the game??

    Louth not only lose... but are now seen as savages

    1. Video evidence is used in the GAA

    2. The attacks on the referee should result in prison sentences , lifetime bans from all sporting fixtures and large fines or witholding of social welfare payments

    3. Louth didnt lose the game as a result of the last minute 'goal' they lost the game by not killing Meath off when they had their chance.

    Football is not Disneyland


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Video technology - if a professional organisation like FIFA won't bring it in, I don't see how the GAA will. It will cost too much!

    What we need is to train referees, linesmen, and umpires properly. Make the refs professional or semi professional - pay them all properly and train them properly. Not enough is done to get referees to the top level - and this thing about having only that small panel of refs for inter county is ridiculous!

    It would cost next to nothing to implement in grounds where cameras are already present - the price of a tv monitor and an earpiece.

    It doesn't matter how highly trained the officials are, they will invariably make mistakes.

    Video replays are the only way to accurately assess the most difficult of decisions.

    In games that are being televised anyway this would be trivially easy to implement.


  • Moderators, Education Moderators, Regional South Moderators Posts: 15,247 Mod ✭✭✭✭rebel girl 15


    keane2097 wrote: »
    It would cost next to nothing to implement in grounds where cameras are already present - the price of a tv monitor and an earpiece.

    It doesn't matter how highly trained the officials are, they will invariably make mistakes.

    Video replays are the only way to accurately assess the most difficult of decisions.

    In games that are being televised anyway this would be trivially easy to implement.

    Do you honestly think the GAA will bring it in, even though you make it sound so easy? I think if the refs etc were trained properly then there would be fewer incidents.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 844 ✭✭✭qc3


    Brendog wrote: »
    Should video evidence be brought in to GAA after Meath steals Louths chance to be Leinster champs?

    more importantly how shocking was it to see the referee attacked after the game??

    Louth not only lose... but are now seen as savages

    As stated in the Louth Thread, 1 or 2 prats don't deserve to see louth missing out on a Championship that they deserve.
    I and the rest of our supporters were shocked by thier behaviour and would love to see then charged with assualt.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,798 ✭✭✭✭keane2097


    Do you honestly think the GAA will bring it in, even though you make it sound so easy?

    Possibly. In many ways I think the GAA are actually more progressive than FIFA.

    I really do think it would be super-easy to put an official upstairs with access to the RTE/TV3 footage. He would be able to see a replay of any incident in seconds, relay the necessary info to the ref through an earpiece on the fly - the game wouldn't even have to be stopped in most instances.
    I think if the refs etc were trained properly then there would be fewer incidents.

    Yeah of course that's true, but when you ultimately rely on human decisions, you're going to get human error. If you can irradicate this to a large extent, you really ought to try to do so imo.


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