can i hire the sheriff to get money im owed?

michael999999

can i hire the sheriff to get money im owed?my company is owed a lot of money by a builder thats still in business.

chris85

michael999999 wrote: »

can i hire the sheriff to get money im owed?my company is owed a lot of money by a builder thats still in business.

Have you pursued the matter through the courts at all?

You cant just call a sheriff and tell to take goods. It must be recognised by the courts that the money is owed by means of a judgment generally.

Magenta

Do we even have sheriffs in Ireland?!

chillin_penguin

Magenta wrote: »

Do we even have sheriffs in Ireland?!

Thats was i thinking also....

punkindrublic

Magenta wrote: »

Do we even have sheriffs in Ireland?!

Yes we do. I was dissappointed that he doesn't wear a hat and boots though

gbee

Magenta wrote: »

Do we even have sheriffs in Ireland?!

Yes we do.

Still around but maybe not as high profile as they used to be. I saw them in action once in the 70's. A pub I frequented could not pay their taxes so the Sheriff arrived, and no he does not have the silver star on his lapel nor six shooters on his hip, but he was supported by armed Gardai and soldiers.

We made a barricade for three days and then the owners just handed over the keys and the place was striped of everything and then knocked to the ground.

chris85

we do have them. There was a documentary a few months back on RTE about them.

Pot Noodle =

gbee wrote: »

Yes we do.

Still around but maybe not as high profile as they used to be. I saw them in action once in the 70's. A pub I frequented could not pay their taxes so the Sheriff arrived, and no he does not have the silver star on his lapel nor six shooters on his hip, but he was supported by armed Gardai and soldiers.

We made a barricade for three days and then the owners just handed over the keys and the place was striped of everything and then knocked to the ground.

Was that Pub in Finglas

foggy_lad

they are still there but are not very effective and always give notice/make appointments before visiting so your debtors can "hide all the good stuff", they also are not very good at seizing anything really and rarely get money/goods that is owed to people. just more political cronyism in their appointment and as long as they dont rock the business owners boat they are in the job for life!

dudara

You will have to secure a judgement against the debtor first before engaging the sheriff.

The following is taken from Citizen's Information and is about the Small Claims Court procedure (which is not applicable to you as a business) but it does illustrate how the Sheriff works.

Enforcing your judgement

Once you have obtained judgement and have a decree, there is the possibility that the respondent will not comply with the order of the court. In this situation, you may need to enforce your judgement. The most usual way of enforcing a judgement is to refer the Decree to the Sheriff or the County Registrar for execution. The Decree is sent by the Small Claims Court Registrar to the Sheriff or the County Registrar who then goes to the respondent and seizes goods or money to the value of the amount set out in your Decree.

The Registrar will not automatically refer unsatisfied Decrees for execution in this way. You will have to set this enforcement procedure in motion. The Registrar will assist you to do this and it will involve a further fee. If the Sheriff successfully executes the judgement, this fee will be refunded to you.

This is not a Consumer Issue - as it involves businesses and not consumers. Therefore, moved to Entreprenurial & Business Management

OP - another option is consider selling the debt to a debt collections agency. You will not recoup the full debt but you will get something back.

dudara

Pot Noodle =

Or you can Factor your debt

Bandara

michael999999 wrote: »

can i hire the sheriff to get money im owed?my company is owed a lot of money by a builder thats still in business.

Get VIPER Debt Recovery or similar to get your money back.

Don't waste your time namby pambying around with the sheriff etc, they will do nothing for you. The builder owes you money, knows he owes you money, and has no intention of repaying it.

foleys agency is legal, and more importantly get results.

Eoin

Absolute farce that his agency is legal.

madmac187

Hammertime wrote: »

Get VIPER Debt Recovery or similar to get your money back.

Don't waste your time namby pambying around with the sheriff etc, they will do nothing for you. The builder owes you money, knows he owes you money, and has no intention of repaying it.

foleys agency is legal, and more importantly get results.

Viper is the best thing, the brother got him. He did the trick and got everything back bar his fee.

infamous

Hammertime/Madmac I hope you have the pleasure of having the viper or some of his cronies knocking on your door someday, ye his operation is skirting within the boundaries of the law but everybody knows what he stands for and it is his reputaion as a gangland figure that is getting peoples money back, people are under massive financial preassure these days and adding these guys to the mix is morally wrong. You will get your few quid back but I wouldn put any supplier through that regardless of their failure to repay their debts.

r0nanf

Afaik if a debtor is hurt, threatened etc - you are liable as they are acting officers of yours. I would be very wary of hiring any debt agency with a dubious background

Elessar

Debt agencies have the exact same powers as you do. Nothing more. I don't see why anyone would hire them unless you like to intimidate people and potentially get in trouble over it.

LauraOrlagh

infamous wrote: »

Hammertime/Madmac I hope you have the pleasure of having the viper or some of his cronies knocking on your door someday, ye his operation is skirting within the boundaries of the law but everybody knows what he stands for and it is his reputaion as a gangland figure that is getting peoples money back, people are under massive financial preassure these days and adding these guys to the mix is morally wrong. You will get your few quid back but I wouldn put any supplier through that regardless of their failure to repay their debts.

I couldn't agree more. There are legal and more attractive ways of getting back the money owed to you using a reputable and respected collection agency who won't bully or intimidate your customer into paying.

Try a collection agency who operate on a genuine no collect = no fee basis - that way you've nothing to lose and so much to gain! I can recommend www.eircollect.com

ToxicPaddy

Remember that hiring someone like that will come with a price, your reputation. Potential future customers will avoid you like the plague if they hear you use tactics to get someone like that to collect your debts..

Granted, some businesses out there are completely taking the p*ss and refusing to pay for services/goods received, but if you have spent time and energy building up a business, do you want it destroyed by employing someone like that???

Tox

PhatPiggins

Hammertime wrote: »

Get VIPER Debt Recovery or similar to get your money back.

Don't waste your time namby pambying around with the sheriff etc, they will do nothing for you. The builder owes you money, knows he owes you money, and has no intention of repaying it.

foleys agency is legal, and more importantly get results.

Anyone using this guy would want to have a long hard think about who they're dealing with and how they want to live their lives.

Bandara

LauraOrlagh wrote: »

I couldn't agree more. There are legal and more attractive ways of getting back the money owed to you using a reputable and respected collection agency who won't bully or intimidate your customer into paying.

Try a collection agency who operate on a genuine no collect = no fee basis - that way you've nothing to lose and so much to gain! I can recommend www.eircollect.com

Laura's company:
Credit Control Covered Limited, Enterprise House, Kilfinane, Co. Limerick, Ireland.

The Company she 'recommends'
Eircollect, Head Office, Enterprise House, Kilfinane, Co. Limerick.

midlandman

Hammertime wrote: »

Get VIPER Debt Recovery or similar to get your money back.

Don't waste your time namby pambying around with the sheriff etc, they will do nothing for you. The builder owes you money, knows he owes you money, and has no intention of repaying it.

foleys agency is legal, and more importantly get results.

have you got a number for him. I'm owed a lot of money from many customers and brought some to court . Got judgements ,but no money has been recived .Fed up with people taking me for a ride, its my money at the end of the day I have paid my suppliers for it.

Eoin

Would you not look at agencies with a better background first?

http://www.google.ie/search?rlz=1C1CHMG_enIE329IE329&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=debt+recovery+ireland

PhatPiggins

midlandman wrote: »

have you got a number for him. I'm owed a lot of money from many customers and brought some to court . Got judgements ,but no money has been recived .Fed up with people taking me for a ride, its my money at the end of the day I have paid my suppliers for it.

Do a google of Viper debt recovery before deciding who you use.

PhatPiggins

Hammertime wrote: »

Laura's company:
Credit Control Covered Limited, Enterprise House, Kilfinane, Co. Limerick, Ireland.

The Company she 'recommends'
Eircollect, Head Office, Enterprise House, Kilfinane, Co. Limerick.

Very good, not much gets past the Boards forumites.

midlandman

I went the legal route but the so called debth collectors even riped me off,and collected no money but charged me a fee every month.I have little faith in the so called legal route. Or I must be the most unluckest man around?.:eek:

midlandman

Try a collection agency who operate on a genuine no collect = no fee basis - that way you've nothing to lose and so much to gain! I can recommend www.eircollect.com[/QUOTE]

Whats your company rate of collecting over due accounts. Also do you buy the debt off companies ,and what rate would I get ?

The Davestator

infamous wrote: »

Hammertime/Madmac I hope you have the pleasure of having the viper or some of his cronies knocking on your door someday, ye his operation is skirting within the boundaries of the law but everybody knows what he stands for and it is his reputaion as a gangland figure that is getting peoples money back, people are under massive financial preassure these days and adding these guys to the mix is morally wrong. You will get your few quid back but I wouldn put any supplier through that regardless of their failure to repay their debts.

Absolute rubbish.

You dont know the Op's situation or how much he/she is owed. The op could be about to lose their home etc.
do what is necessary and what works. The builder owes the money and is not paying, so he's the asshole here NOT the OP.

EKRIUQ

Magenta wrote: »

Do we even have sheriffs in Ireland?!

The are 2 types of Sherffis in the country, court sheriffs and revenue sheriffs. Court sheriffs follow court judgements and revenue sheriffs work for the Revenue collector general and are the biggest thugs around and don't give a **** about anyone. Paid on commission basis and don't care who's property they destroy.

midlandman

The Davestator wrote: »

Absolute rubbish.

You dont know the Op's situation or how much he/she is owed. The op could be about to lose their home etc.
do what is necessary and what works. The builder owes the money and is not paying, so he's the asshole here NOT the OP.

The problem is that if I dont get paid , I let staff go, they cant pay their loans and lose their house. We didnt benefit from the celtic tiger but were now paying for it . All over people were buying what they couldn't afford to pay for!.
Have I to let staff go because customers will not pay me .But they still can drive around in their luxury car/jeeps and forget about their actons , they have a neck! . Somebody need to take them to account:mad:.

helenaoneill

I have a client in similar circumstances. They went through a debt collection agency who were great but the amount involved was too small to put too much money into pursuing the collection. They then went direct to Revenue (as the debt was on a C45 work basis and so tax was also due to Revenue) and Revenue are now involved in chasing the builder involved.

In short, I'd recommend talking to a debt collection agency. Then, if this doesn't work and if the work was done on a C2 or C45 basis, talking to Revenue. Unfortunately neither options will solve your problem quickly but at least you'll be doing something and hopefully get your money back in time.