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Hurrah for Original Soundtracks!

  • 07-07-2010 10:49pm
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    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,014 CMod ✭✭✭✭


    Someone in the house was watching Star Trek in another room last night, and just hearing the soundtrack in the background reminded me how ****ing fantastic the score to the film is. Michael Giacchino's score helps set the tone, the pace and the atmosphere throughout. The musical transition from opening scene to logo to flashback is stunning, to pick one example, and instantly pulls you into the film. Naturally, Abram's superb direction and editing helps too, but 'Enterprising Young Men' (the track in question) is the icing on the cake.

    Often more so than any other type of film, an entertaining blockbuster or popcorn flick can help be defined by the music. Star Wars, Indiana Jones, The Dark Knight, Back To The Future, The Goonies, Jaws and countless others - the most memorable are often the ones you find yourself randomly humming the theme tune from. Who hasn't found themselves whistling along to the Imperial March at some point (anyone who says differently is lying :pac:).

    Of course, good scores aren't limited to summer blockbusters. I'm listening to The Good the Bad and the Ugly soundtrack at the moment. Ennio Morricone pretty much helped define a genre with his contributions to Leone's Westerns. Karen O and the Kids mad, dreamlike soundtrack to Where The Wild Things Are is on frequent rotation at the moment too, and a perfect companion to the film, emphasising key themes - a mix of joy, sadness and innocence. And then the likes of There Will Be Blood - not necessarily something you can hum along to, but pivotal in defining the unusual, surreal nature of the film. Or Phillip Glass' compositions that help keep you hypnotised to the visuals in the Quatsi films.

    Then there's the other kind of soundtrack, the 'mixtape'. Wes Anderson tends to divide critics with his music choices (he sure likes the Kinks, ey?) but I often find his soundtracks to be a great mix of classic rock (Search & Destroy), hidden gems and original compositions (anything by Mark Mothersbaugh). Quentin Tarantino is one of the purveyors of the mixtape style, and while he can be extremely hit or miss, reappropriating Little Green Bag or Stuck in the Middle has created some extremely memorable scenes. These pop-culture literate folk help us reevaluate and reappreciate the (often hidden) classics of the past.

    And then we have the bad soundtracks. The likes of Watchmen, which at it's worst completely pulls you out of the film and makes you query 'what the **** were they thinking?' as two characters thrust to Leonard Cohen. Or the director's cut of Donnie Darko, which removes many of the inspired music cues of the first and reminds you how much of a fluke Kelly achieved the first time around.

    Of course, pretty much everything I've just said is common sense, something we as movie fans take totally for granted. Yet a good soundtrack can be as important as good acting, direction, cinematography or editing: it goes hand in hand with these components to create something truly memorable. What soundtracks, songs or particular moments help emphasise the pivotal role of music in cinema for you?

    I for one shall end this post on this note:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    I thought the use of Dylan's "the times they are a-changin'" was an inspired choice in Watchmen though.

    I'm a huge soundtrack/score fan, I have more movie scores than actual albums by bands on my mp3 player, always listening to them driving. Of my favourite composers theres John Williams, Thomas Newman, Elliot Goldenthal, Howard Shore, Hans Zimmer (who can be very hit and miss) and James Newton Howard.

    If you're a John Williams fan then take a listen to this, its from The Fury, a fairly forgotten thriller from the 70's but it has one of William's greatest pieces of music for the main titles, its such a pity its not regarded the same as Star Wars, Jaws etc as its a magnificent piece



    I agree with Giacchino's score for Star Trek being brilliant as well, the main theme gave me goosebumps hearing it for the first time in the cinema, he did a brilliant job with The Incredibles and M:I 3 as well


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,857 ✭✭✭Valmont


    The music for Old Boy is my favourite and The Virgin Suicides is a close second. A great soundtrack or score can make a great film that much better.

    Here are the OSTs I have on iTunes at the moment.

    Virgin Suicides - Air - Original Score
    Virgin Suicides - OST
    500 days of Summer
    Sunshine
    Deathproof
    Broken Flowers
    Ghost Dog: The Way of the Samurai
    American Beauty - Thomas Newman - Original Score
    The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou
    Lost in Translation
    Marie Antoinette
    Control
    Into The Wild


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 385 ✭✭Macca3000


    And more recently Kick-Ass has to be up there as a brilliant soundtrack.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 22,693 CMod ✭✭✭✭Sad Professor


    I love film soundtracks. Also agree about Giacchino's Star Trek score - it's fantastic.

    Recently, I've been listening to James Horner's score for House of Sand and Fog. I'm not normally a fan of Horner, but this is a really great score - dark, atmospheric and understated. I may be mistaken, but it sounds quite original too, which is unusual for Horner. Excellent film as well.

    I didn't care for The Lovely Bones, but Brian Eno's work on it was excellent. A lot of it seems to be chopped up and taken from from his previous albums, however, there is some new stuff in there. I hope it gets an official release eventually.



    I've also been listening to Cliff Martinez's score for Soderbergh's Solaris (another inferior film with a great soundtrack). Really great stuff. Quite Eno-ish.



    I'm a big of John Murphy's soundtracks as well, especially Sunshine. A lot of it still isn't available on disc, but is on iTunes. He's a nice guy. I wrote to him a few years ago and he posted me a few discs, including Sunshine which was still unreleased at the time. Also Miami Vice, a lot of which Michael Mann threw out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747


    Soundtracks are a huge make or break deal for me, if the soundtrack suits the film then I'm 100% sucked in. I listen to as much soundtracks as I do actual music, probably more when it comes to trawling YouTube for inspiration on making videos.

    From the great Basil Poledouris:




    And some other favs:
    (4:50 onwards is epic.......OO-Rah!!)


    (2:27 is really intense)


    Best track from an otherwise medicore OST and film




    I love Ennio Morricone's music in the Spaghetti trilogy but instead of lining them up I'll choose my favourite :pac:


    (1:50 onwards is ace!)





    Love this track from Akira



    Who honestly hasn't hummed these 2 at one point or another? :pac:



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,295 ✭✭✭✭Duggy747




  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,276 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    Ah, soundtrack threads. How i love you. I'm also a massive fan of soundtracks, and have a ton of them on my mp3 player. I love all the classics (Star Wars, Back to the Future, Indiana Jones etc...), but also love some of the lesser known classics.

    October Sky


    K-Pax


    American Beauty


    Monster


    Road to Perdition


    Lord of War


    Last of the Mohicans


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 240 ✭✭Manchegan


    krudler wrote: »
    I agree with Giacchino's score for Star Trek being brilliant as well, the main theme gave me goosebumps hearing it for the first time in the cinema, he did a brilliant job with The Incredibles and M:I 3 as well



    IMO Abrams has Giacchino to thank for how long Lost could be dragged out.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    Have to say I'm generally not a fan of "Soundtrack" albums. I find that they are just a cobbling together of mish-mashed tracks that feature in the movie and that the result is even less than the sum of their parts. Invariably just a hollow marketing exercise

    However, give me a good original score any day or album composed entirely by the one artist. There are definetly some real gems out there!


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 15,788 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tabnabs


    If you enjoy good movies with original soundtracks then I can highly recommend Ravenous (Michael Nyman and Damon Albarn)



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    I swear, any time I listen to this I get shivers.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    Of course, pretty much everything I've just said is common sense, something we as movie fans take totally for granted. Yet a good soundtrack can be as important as good acting, direction, cinematography or editing: it goes hand in hand with these components to create something truly memorable. What soundtracks, songs or particular moments help emphasise the pivotal role of music in cinema for you?

    I would say that the soundtrack is an incredibly important aspect of a film, and I'd agree many would take it for granted.

    By the way Johnny. Susumu Hirasawa. ;)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 240 ✭✭Manchegan


    I'm a big of John Murphy's soundtracks as well, especially Sunshine. A lot of it still isn't available on disc, but is on iTunes. He's a nice guy. I wrote to him a few years ago and he posted me a few discs, including Sunshine which was still unreleased at the time.

    Not forgetting this, another gem



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,013 ✭✭✭✭jaykhunter


    Yeah, I love original orchestral soundtracks to movies too. They're so timeless and classy. Films with current pop-culture soundtracks really run the risk of being dated a few years down the line (unless it's already dated, like the excellent Hot Tub Time Machine ost)

    Awesome orchestral soundtracks :
    American Beauty
    Back to the Future
    Dark Knight (although I'd only listen to a few tracks as there's not that much depth to the OST imo)
    Dexter
    Fight Club
    Lord of the Rings
    The Matrix (although these have a lot of techno songs as well)
    Saw (although some of them are meh)
    Silent Hill
    Star Trek 2009
    Star Wars (Ep III being my favourite, since it includes every big song from the franchise, plus some original awesome music)
    Terminator 2
    The Ring


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 30,014 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    I would say that the soundtrack is an incredibly important aspect of a film, and I'd agree many would take it for granted.

    By the way Johnny. Susumu Hirasawa.

    I've had that song as my ringtone for years now :P Best credit sequence ever!

    Someone has already linked to Transformers - I'd cite that as an example of the soundtrack actually being far superior to the film. I got excited when Optimus showed up and the soundtrack kicked into overdrive, only to be bitterly disappointed when other stuff happened :(

    A recent highlight not mentioned so far: Moon by Clint Mansell. Superb addition to the film, particularly 'Welcome to Lunar Industries'.



    Oh yeah, try to keep the youtube embeds to a limit. A few per post is fine, but more than that can make it a bit messy :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,259 ✭✭✭Rowley Birkin QC


    First one is pure Zimmer. Other two aren't strictly OST but I like them all the same as they fit the scenes in which they feature perfectly.



    From my favourite Kubrick film, Barry Lyndon


    From Master & Commander


    The Dark Knight is also pretty epic, goes on the iPod on any long car journeys.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    jaykhunter wrote: »

    What was excellent about that was that they stuck with the music from the games, which was a large part of why the film actually captured the atmosphere of the games quite well. Now if only the script had stuck closer to the games, we would've had a much, much better film than the flawed and messy film we got.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,033 ✭✭✭thebullkf







    this scene will stay with me forever......



    will someone fix this if it doesn't show up please?:o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,688 ✭✭✭kerash


    thebullkf wrote: »





    this scene will stay with me forever......



    will someone fix this if it doesn't show up please?:o

    I like how music by John Brion was used in Eternal sunshine of the spotless mind but more recently I watched Babel and thought the soundtrack was fab.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,726 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    thebullkf wrote: »





    this scene will stay with me forever......



    will someone fix this if it doesn't show up please?:o

    DON!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,225 ✭✭✭fillefatale


    krudler wrote: »
    I'm a huge soundtrack/score fan, I have more movie scores than actual albums by bands on my mp3 player, always listening to them driving. Of my favourite composers theres John Williams, Thomas Newman, Elliot Goldenthal, Howard Shore, Hans Zimmer (who can be very hit and miss) and James Newton Howard.

    This is me too, I have more scores than soundtracks and a lot of the music I like now is because of a song I first heard in the film/soundtrack. The soundtrack makes or breaks a film for me. My favourites in no order would be but not restricted to -

    Scores
    Star Wars
    The Secret Garden
    Three Colours Trilogy
    The Piano
    Ryan's Daughter
    Atonement
    Days of Heaven
    The English Patient
    The Double Life of Veronica
    Amélie
    Lord of the Rings
    Twin Peaks
    BBC's North and South

    Soundtracks
    Stealing Beauty
    Dazed and Confused
    The Virgin Suicides
    The Dreamers
    Pieces of April
    An Education
    The Graduate
    Grease (!!)
    Lost in Translation
    Pretty in Pink

    My absolute favourite composers, who create a really haunting, eerie atmosphere would be Zbigniew Preisner, Ennio Morricone, Maurice Jarre and Michael Nyman - all quite different but similar.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,836 ✭✭✭Vokes


    Ooooh, a score thread - I promise not to post too many! Btw, I love that October Sky track a few posts back, and it's a great film to boot too.

    Here's one of the best tracks from one my favourite films of the 90's, Gattaca:



    I just wish Nyman would score a few more films more often!


    Here's another good example of a superb track (by Alan Silvestri) amidst an otherwise average film (Tomb Raider 2):



    Silvestri is a master of his craft. I guess most know him for his work on Predator, BTTF and Forrest Gump. But I particularly remember his awesomely-80s Flight of the Navigator theme :)


    More recently, some of the original tracks from the Kick-Ass score are pretty damn good (albeit a bit short):

    Marshmallows

    Flying Home


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,416 ✭✭✭Jimmy Iovine


    Macca3000 wrote: »
    And more recently Kick-Ass has to be up there as a brilliant soundtrack.

    Couldnt agree more. The first time I saw it i was amazed. The scene
    where Hit Girl comes and rescues Big Daddy in the warehouse
    is beyond incredible. The strobe lighting and the music playing over it. One of the best scenes I've seen in any film ever. Pity the whole scene isn't on Youtube yet


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,595 ✭✭✭bonerm


    It's also notable that some soundtracks don't work outside of the movie.

    For instance Hans Zimmers purcussive score on The Dark Knight is amazingly effective within the confines of the movie itself. However I found sitting down and listening to the scratchy, repetitive unmelodic soundtrack for an hour on its own to be an unenjoyable experience.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    bonerm wrote: »
    It's also notable that some soundtracks don't work outside of the movie.

    For instance Hans Zimmers purcussive score on The Dark Knight is amazingly effective within the confines of the movie itself. However I found sitting down and listening to the scratchy, repetitive unmelodic soundtrack for an hour on its own to be an unenjoyable experience.

    some of the tracks yeah, but Like A Dog Chasing Cars is a brilliant action cue


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 159 ✭✭Bus77II


    A real oldie but I think Lalo Schifrin did a great job on the Dirty Harry OST.



    The Director said to him: ''I like the score but why have you put all these wailing voices in?''. Lalo says ''The guys crazy! He's hearing all sorts of things'' :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,033 ✭✭✭thebullkf


    super^^


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,445 ✭✭✭Jako8


    The worst thing I find about some OST is that the main theme is normally the only track worthy of listening to as a stand alone track. I hate it when a composer writes an awesome main theme and then fills the rest of the film wih what is essentially background music. I LOVE it when a composer writes music which adds to the film. Which becomes part of the entire experience rather than just accompanying it.

    There's a good few who do this these days in fairness. I can't be bothered looking for examples now. :p I'll be back though. Until then I'll leave ye with these.




  • Administrators, Computer Games Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 32,529 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Mickeroo


    was reminded of this while watching the Earthworks trailer for some reason. Stunningly beautiful piece of music which greatly enhanced a beautiful piece of film making.



    I really think Nick Cave and Warren Ellis have been doing some great score work, The Road and The Proposition had brilliant scores, but their work on The Assasination of Jesse James.....blew me away. Here's one from that.



    My favourite soundtracks of all time have to be from Wes Anderson's movies, particularly Rushmore and The Royal Tenenbaums and I also loved the music in The Life Aquatic. I think he really picks each to song to hit the perfect note for the scenes they are used in, sometimes it almost feels like the songs were written especially for those scenes, I think this is very evident in Rushmore and to an even greater extent in The Royal Tenenbaums which to this day is still probably my favourite film. I could post so many scenes from it to illustrate the brilliant use of music,the Needle in the Hay scene also springs to mind, but I picked this one.



    And just to show how important music really is.....stumbled across this by accident :D



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,836 ✭✭✭Vokes


    Zimmer looks to be on a bit of a roll at the moment (his Sherlock Holmes and Angels&Demons work was excellent). I've been listening to his Inception score all day and I reckon its the best film score this year (so far).





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,803 ✭✭✭pappyodaniel


    The soundtrack and score for This is England is great, the classical pieces by Ludovico Einaudi are beautiful.





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