thinking X Type. Now hear me out..

coffeenuts

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Jaguar/X-Type/2.0-Dies/201020198034877/advert?channel=CARS

I have been looking round spending about the 10k mark on a nice luxury motor as some of you might know from a few posts I've put up in the past few days.

Bottom line is my sensible side has kicked in and I have decided that a Jaguar X Type fits the bill better than the rest for the following reasons.
I know its not a luxo barge but its a nice luxury saloon in my eyes.
Being smaller in a ways probably a good thing city driving etc... Damn my sensible side.

2ltr - lower tax than say a 3ltr plus luxo barge
Diesel - obvious fuel consumption
The badge - I've always fancied a Jag, love the look of them, timeless imo.

Now there the pro's for me.

The one I've listed isnt the exact one but its the sort of thing I'll be looking at similar milage, etc...

Seriously I've decided against the big petrol luxo barges so dont bother trying to change my mind. Instead a bit of help in relation to the X Types would be handy.

Anyone own/owned one?

What to look out for when buying one like the one I've listed probably an 04/05 model will be withing range.

Little help

cheers

johnos1984

Gearbox is a weak point in them

Test drive one before setting your heart on one as I have always found the interior a let down as it has very cheap plastics.

I'd still like one though

If its diesel check all paper work carefully regarding the mileage and also check out the condition of the car. Many came in from Britain with high mileage and all of a sudden this dropped to 56K miles. I remember sitting in one which had just landed in a large now extinct dealership which had 151k miles on it. The following week it had been given a much needed scrub and 100k miles was washed away

coffeenuts

weak gearbox eh. That doesnt sound good. What would you watch for there. Sticky?

Doesnt sound good bout the milage changing either but I suppose could happen any car unfortunately. Hard to tell.

johnos1984

coffeenuts wrote: »

weak gearbox eh. That doesnt sound good. What would you watch for there. Sticky?

Doesnt sound good bout the milage changing either but I suppose could happen any car unfortunately. Hard to tell.

Give me a few minutes and I'll get proper info on the gearbox (not honestjohn but from a dealer in britain)

As for the clocking, don't let it put you off just keep your eyes open it happens many cars imported or not

coffeenuts

cheers yeah anything that can help. They a fantastic looking car dont want to be taken in by its charm eh.

johnos1984

Ok just been having a little chat about it there now.

The car is in fact well regarded but can start giving trouble around the 100k mile mark. These are general enough things such as injectors however the gearbox can go wrong then on all versions. Your looking for oil leaks and difficulty going into gear. It should go in and out smoothly.

The main weakness is with the transfer box on AXD cars. Your looking at trouble anywhere after 30k miles so stay away.

Other than that its a nice soft car. It is exceptional at anything nor is it poor at anything!

coffeenuts

johnos1984 wrote: »

Ok just been having a little chat about it there now.

The car is in fact well regarded but can start giving trouble around the 100k mile mark. These are general enough things such as injectors however the gearbox can go wrong then on all versions. Your looking for oil leaks and difficulty going into gear. It should go in and out smoothly.

The main weakness is with the transfer box on AXD cars. Your looking at trouble anywhere after 30k miles so stay away.

Other than that its a nice soft car. It is exceptional at anything nor is it poor at anything!

around 100k mark for a diesel sounds surprising but fair enough if thats the case.

Injectors, are they expensive to fix?

A gearbox wouldnt be cheap I'd imagine so I'll have to watch for that smooth change your talking about.

Whats a transfer box? And whats an AXD car?

Sorry for my ignorence

si_guru

At the risk of stating the obvious the X-type diesel and 2.1 petrol was FWD.

johnos1984

Sorry I meant AWD not AXD (all wheel drive) but I think thats a petrol only problem. The transfer box transfers power to each end of the car.

Injectors are expensive but you'll know if the car is running rough or if it has very high mileage then they will need to be changed. They go on every diesel, PSA HDI and BMW diesels are known for it.

Don't be too nervous of one, every car has its faults and things too watch out for just check everything carefully

coffeenuts

si_guru wrote: »

At the risk of stating the obvious the X-type diesel and 2.1 petrol was FWD.

at the risk of sounding really stupid what does that mean to a lay person like me?

johnos1984

si_guru wrote: »

At the risk of stating the obvious the X-type diesel and 2.1 petrol was FWD.

True but I was just giving all of the weaknesses

johnos1984

coffeenuts wrote: »

at the risk of sounding really stupid what does that mean to a lay person like me?

You need not worry about the transfer box issue as the car isn't 4 wheel drive

The AWD version was with higher powered petrol units

coffeenuts

ok so the diesel that I'll be going for wont have that problem anyway...

Could be others just not that one

coffeenuts

Thanks for the help lads,

Anyone else own one of these diesel models by any chance on the board
want to give their own experience of the car?

MojoMaker

Tbh - poser's car, all show and no go. "Don't try to change my mind" - (next week it'll be something else) - to be honest you sound like an adolescent looking for a big car to affirm something you're missing in day to day life. If you want to lose all motoring credibility in a heartbeat, pick up an X-type. No seriously, at least it'll put a stop to these whining "what should I buy" threads.

CaraFawn

Sorry I don't know much about those cars, but I am bored already just looking at it outside and particularly inside, everything is flat and without personality or charm, even the rear seats are completely flat.

On and off

johnos1984

MojoMaker wrote: »

Tbh - poser's car, all show and no go. "Don't try to change mind" - to be honest you sound like an adolescent looking for a big car to affirm something you're missing in day to day life.

So you would like to stick him in a Corolla so and keep him in his box???

Your post is a waste of bandwidth

Bodhan

The X-Type is a nice car, solid and has the Jag badge giving you the ability to say; I drive a jagggg...

But, as Johno says there may be some draw backs. Isn't the X-Type some part Vectra or some other brand maybe, I forget now.

Nice car, if you like a car to look at, and it drives well and puts a smile on your face then any car is worth it.

johnos1984

Bodhan wrote: »

The X-Type is a nice car, solid and has the Jag badge giving you the ability to say; I drive a jagggg...

But, as Johno says there may be some draw backs. Isn't the X-Type some part Vectra or some other brand maybe, I forget now.

Nice car, if you like a car to look at, and it drives well and puts a smile on your face then any car is worth it.

Hey Bodhan,

its got a lot of Mondeo bits underneath and towards the end (2008) the diesel was a PSA unit.

Nice comfy car is the best way to describe it. Not as reliable as a Mondeo but not bad by any stretch of the imagination.

A good way into Jag ownership without the huge fuel bills

Bodhan

[quote/]Hey Bodhan,

its got a lot of Mondeo bits underneath and towards the end (2008) the diesel was a PSA unit.

Nice comfy car is the best way to describe it. Not as reliable as a Mondeo but not bad by any stretch of the imagination.

A good way into Jag ownership without the huge fuel bills[/QUOTE]

That's the one, it's not a bad looking car too. You get the badge with out the drawbacks!

MojoMaker

Next week it'll be something else, something to match his trousers. What are ye missing from life???

There is no "badge" with a Jag. There is however a marketing wet-dream. Congrats, it's you!

Henry Ford III

Gearbox is fine - it's basically a Mondeo in 2.0 diesel form. Dual mass flywheels, injectors etc. can be troublesome after big miles, but it's basically a very reliable car.

MojoMaker

MojoMaker wrote: »

Next week it'll be something else, something to match his trousers. What are ye missing from life???

There is no "badge" with a Jag. There is however a marketing wet-dream. Congrats, it's you!

MojoMaker wrote: »

Tbh - poser's car, all show and no go. "Don't try to change my mind" - (next week it'll be something else) - to be honest you sound like an adolescent looking for a big car to affirm something you're missing in day to day life. If you want to lose all motoring credibility in a heartbeat, pick up an X-type. No seriously, at least it'll put a stop to these whining "what should I buy" threads.

The OP is only a member a month and had 22 posts, he's hardly flooding the place with whining threads.

-Chris-

I've heard they've a tendency to go through clutches depending on your driving style/technique.

gleep

OP, i assume you've sat in one of these at least?
A guy i used to work with owned one, nice looking car. Got a lift one day and was completley underwhelmed. It feels cheap. It was built on the cheap. From the nasty fake wood to the faux leather, the x-type is All fur coat no knickers.

Don't kid yourself, this is not a luxury car.

My 03 Mazda 6 was more luxury - fact.

Pique

RoverJames wrote: »

The OP is only a member a month and had 22 posts, he's hardly flooding the place with whining threads.

Don't feed the troll...

unkel

That price is silly.

VolvoMan

As I've said before, buy the X-type on its strengths as a car, not because it's badged as a Jaguar.

unkel

VolvoMan wrote: »

As I've said before, buy the X-type on its strengths as a car, not because it's badged as a Jaguar.

It's not possible to buy the X-type (a pretty good car, even in the base FWD) on its strengths as a car because they are all way overpriced. Its badge fooled a few people buying them new, but it's not fooling many people now...

vectra

A friend of mine has one.
I considered buying a new one this time round.
I asked him for his advice
He laughed.
He said
" I know how you drive and this is certainly not for you"
He walked round the back of his car to show me a sticker he had put on it

It said

"ALL SMOKE NO POKE"

That was enough for me.

JHMEG

A friend of mine had the 3.0 petrol (in the UK) with full leather, dual climate, etc. Lovely car. Very quiet and refined. Would consider one myself.

The 2.0 diesel engine is probably the antitheses - afaik it's from the Transit.

Pdfile

coffeenuts wrote: »

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Jaguar/X-Type/2.0-Dies/201020198034877/advert?channel=CARS

I have been looking round spending about the 10k mark on a nice luxury motor as some of you might know from a few posts I've put up in the past few days.

Bottom line is my sensible side has kicked in and I have decided that a Jaguar X Type fits the bill better than the rest for the following reasons.
I know its not a luxo barge but its a nice luxury saloon in my eyes.
Being smaller in a ways probably a good thing city driving etc... Damn my sensible side.

2ltr - lower tax than say a 3ltr plus luxo barge
Diesel - obvious fuel consumption
The badge - I've always fancied a Jag, love the look of them, timeless imo.

Now there the pro's for me.

The one I've listed isnt the exact one but its the sort of thing I'll be looking at similar milage, etc...

Seriously I've decided against the big petrol luxo barges so dont bother trying to change my mind. Instead a bit of help in relation to the X Types would be handy.

Anyone own/owned one?

What to look out for when buying one like the one I've listed probably an 04/05 model will be withing range.

Little help

cheers

10k, wont get you luxery, but would get you a lease on something nice. :rolleyes:

Tragedy

JHMEG wrote: »

A friend of mine had the 3.0 petrol (in the UK) with full leather, dual climate, etc. Lovely car. Very quiet and refined. Would consider one myself.

The 2.0 diesel engine is probably the antitheses - afaik it's from the Transit.

The diesel engine is the 2l Duratorq Ford unit.
Relatively refined in the Jag, but it's still a diesel!

Op: I was looking at diesel x-types and couldn't find and value over here - go to england or up north and then appeal the VRT if you can find cheaper ads to use from carzone/donedeal/gumtree.

If you can stretch, I'd try get a 2.2diesel - same engine as from the Mondeo ST155 and a peach(as diesels go!)

coffeenuts

MojoMaker wrote: »

Next week it'll be something else, something to match his trousers. What are ye missing from life???

There is no "badge" with a Jag. There is however a marketing wet-dream. Congrats, it's you!

moderators can you please put a stop to the ranting by this poster. This is his second one on this one thread.
He's adding nothing and just taking the well you know.

Thankyou

ps I am seriously considering this car.

Absurdum

coffeenuts wrote: »

ps I am seriously considering this car.

http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/motors/2010/0106/1224261723440.html

Swampy

get a nice Merc for the same money.

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Mercedes-Benz/E-Class/E-200-AV/201025198502967/advert?channel=CARS

Quality interiors in my opinion. Decent 1.8 Turbo engine. Automatic (which hopefully my next car will be, can't deal with town driving/clutching every minute anymore.)

/waits for the usual abuse

Bodhan

Nothing wrong with an E-Class, good car, can't speak for reliability just that 1.8 engine is hard enough on petrol.

Swampy wrote: »

get a nice Merc for the same money.

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Mercedes-Benz/E-Class/E-200-AV/201025198502967/advert?channel=CARS

Quality interiors in my opinion. Decent 1.8 Turbo engine. Automatic (which hopefully my next car will be, can't deal with town driving/clutching every minute anymore.)

/waits for the usual abuse

EPM

Swampy wrote: »

get a nice Merc for the same money.

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Mercedes-Benz/E-Class/E-200-AV/201025198502967/advert?channel=CARS

Quality interiors in my opinion. Decent 1.8 Turbo engine. Automatic (which hopefully my next car will be, can't deal with town driving/clutching every minute anymore.)

/waits for the usual abuse

It's a supercharged engine and they can need rebuilds

Eoin

coffeenuts wrote: »

moderators can you please put a stop to the ranting by this poster. This is his second one on this one thread.
He's adding nothing and just taking the well you know.

Coffeenuts, please press the report button in future:

@MojoMaker, please don't post on this thread unless you've something more constructive to add.

L-M

I like the idea of the X-type, but I hate the car themselves. The only way I'd buy one is if I got a nice spec one like this, with a good engine like this LOL

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/cars/1401524

Henry Ford III

JHMEG wrote: »

A friend of mine had the 3.0 petrol (in the UK) with full leather, dual climate, etc. Lovely car. Very quiet and refined. Would consider one myself.

The 2.0 diesel engine is probably the antitheses - afaik it's from the Transit.

It's not. The old "York" engines powered the Transit, followed by commercial versions of the newer "Puma" diesel from 2000.

In an X Type Jag the engine transmission etc. are all 2.0TDCI 130bhp lifted directly from Ford.

I'm puzzled to read about failing gearboxes and clutches therefore.

johnos1984

OP the best thing to do at this point is to go and test drive one and see how you feel.

No matter what car you post up here there will be a differing of opinion along with some horror stories to put you off.

The Jag is a very nice comfortable car but I have been disappointed by the interiors before but impressed by others. I find the lighter coloured interiors to be more pleasant.

gandroid

I bought one in the UK 6 weeks ago. 04 SE (diesel) model with 66k miles. After VRT/travel costs I would say it cost me around 8.5/9k. I think you would save money by going to the UK if you have the time.

As for the car, I have to say I'm really enjoying driving it and it feels like a luxury car to me, as my previous ones were nothing as fancy! As someone else mentioned, make sure you drive a few of them to get a feel for a good one.

You will always have one or two people who will knock any car and plenty who will call an X-Type diesel a Mondeo but I would rather buy a nice second hand X-Type than a buy a second hand Mondeo and the prices for a second hand Mondeo in Ireland were more expensive (than an X-Type in UK).

So it's a working man's Jag, yes - but it's also a very nice car that doesn't have to break the bank to buy or to run. It feels like luxury to me and the SE spec with the leather seats, cruise control etc. are definitely worth the extra few quid.

If you did have the €€ the 2.2D version does look sweet.

Good luck with it anyway if you decide to go with it.