Getting Sky UK in Turkey

Barack Obama

I know this is really for reception of foreign satellites in Ireland, but there's nowhere else to ask!

My parents just bought a place in Turkey and I'm hoping that there is some way that they can get some form of English TV. From looking at the Astra footprint, it doesn't look good - http://www.vowles-home.demon.co.uk/Sat/SkyFootprints.htm

Does anyone have an experience of getting TV setup in Turkey?

Thanks

Smeagol

For a more precise information we'd need the location of your parents new place, i.e. nearby town or city since Turkey is huge.
For north western Turkey we're talking 2m absolute minimum, that's without Astra2d, of course. Landinwards 3-4m.
Take a look here.

Barack Obama

Smeagol wrote: »

For a more precise information we'd need the location of your parents new place, i.e. nearby town or city since Turkey is huge.
For north western Turkey we're talking 2m absolute minimum, that's without Astra2d, of course. Landinwards 3-4m.
Take a look here.

Great - thanks mate

I had not idea that you needed the actual city sorry! Their place in in Antalya - kind of between Crete & Cyprus.
http://maps.google.ie/maps?q=turkey+map&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Turkey&gl=ie&ei=g6A1TILnH4fQjAe-i5iJBA&ved=0CBwQ8gEwAA&ll=37.002553,29.619141&spn=8.120634,22.5&z=6

Smeagol

Well, Antalya, where else.:)

Now, for Astra2d (basicly RTÉs, BBCs and ITVs, 4, 5) reception you're gonna need a 4.2m dish.
If you go without those you're gonna need a 1.8m dish. With a UK sub you could also get ITV and C4HD.
Nilesat is also a good spot for english content, on 80cm dish. Same with Badr 4/6.

Barack Obama

Yeah - I went looking through the forum link that you posted about and I reckoned a 4m dish would be needed. Good luck with getting permission for that! One upside I guess is that they have the penthouse in the apartment block so there may be a chance that they can get access to the roof.

Failing that, they better get learning Turkish!

MisterAnarchy

Alot of the channels on Digiturk are broadcast in dual languages ,English and Turkisk.
Most of the movies,entertainment channels with us programming ,documentary channels and kids channels have English audio.

Barack Obama

MisterAnarchy wrote: »

Alot of the channels on Digiturk are broadcast in dual languages ,English and Turkisk.
Most of the movies,entertainment channels with us programming ,documentary channels and kids channels have English audio.

Thanks MisterAnarchy. Are you speaking from experience or going by the specs for the satellite?

MisterAnarchy

Barack Obama wrote: »

Thanks MisterAnarchy. Are you speaking from experience or going by the specs for the satellite?

Experience,I regularly watch Digiturk myself.

watty

4.2m?

You'll need an elevation motor or you will lose reception twice a day.

Professionally done there is not much change out of €5,000

Get someone to post DVDs every day :-)

Or someone with Virgin Media Cable to stream a remote controlled sat box.

settopbox

watty wrote: »

4.2m?

You'll need an elevation motor or you will lose reception twice a day.

Professionally done there is not much change out of €5,000

Get someone to post DVDs every day :-)

Or someone with Virgin Media Cable to stream a remote controlled sat box.

Explain this one to me mate if you would, never heard of this before.

Frisian

to stream a remote controlled sat box.

Or you could use a MaximumHomestream to stream your Sky content.
I use it myself. Remote control works a treat on a Mvision HD200c
Here's the DrDish link again.

Barack Obama

Thanks guys - there is some good info there. I doubt they will be allowed to put up such a large dish, so it may be the DigiTurk option for them. I just have to see exactly what they can get on that.

An internet-based option would be good. I've send my dad an email telling him to looking into internet connection options there.

settopbox

settopbox wrote: »

Explain this one to me mate if you would, never heard of this before.

I can only guess that at such a massive dish size, that the satellite's inclination, however slight, becomes an issue. The bigger the dish, the more accurate its alignment needs to be.

watty

Correct.

You can calculate it.
An "inclined" orbit means too inclined for a typical DTH 80cm or so dish. ALL satellites are on very slightly inclined orbits to save station keeping fuel. The earth's rotation is inclined to the solar plane. (the Moon is an issue too).

Every time you increase gain you decrease the beam width. Eventually you reach a point were the beam width is less than the apparent sinusoid wiggle from our viewpoint of the very slight offset between plane at right angles to earth axis and actually level orbit of the satellite.

I have heard of the vertical tracking on home made gear done with suitable size & shape of oval cam (for amount of inclination) and a motor that synchronous of mains but rotates once a day (i.e. like a Mains Clock Hour hand or timeswitch).

Other systems use a 2nd "jack" for elevation (usually big mesh dishes).

Anyone that remembers what 1st attempt at aligning a 1.2m dish compared to a sky Dish will appreciate how much more accurately it needs pointed to get ANYTHING

Bigger dishes you may need GPS and dual motors (Elevation & Azimuth) and software simply to point it at all! Conversely a 43cm dish is easy to point even without a meter.

A 5m dish is about 25 times gain of a 1m dish. 4.8m is 16 times a 1.2m. It's about that more accuracy needed in pointing to get a signal