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A soundwave filter Might do the trick

  • 03-07-2010 8:13am
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭


    Sound Waves

    I wanted to use sound waves to separate oil and water. You see as the waves go through any medium, such as the water and the oil, they affect the medium.

    Since there is a different in densities of the oil and the water then the oil and water should be fluctuating differently with the power of each sound wave. So we can use sound waves to separate them and keep the oil in a secluded place and possibly pump it back to an oil collection bay at the surface of the water.
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    You can see that this creates a kind of whirlpool effect from the sound waves and the arrangements of the speakers.I would like to mention that this process does need to be continuous.

    If BP decides that they are going to use the sound wave filter it would look something like this drawing I drew of what I think the filter should look like....
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    So now that you guys know feel free to post any questions comments conundrums, concerns, or queries that you may have.

    I am also accepting possible solutions to problems that I may have.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,073 ✭✭✭Xios


    Erm, it looks like the sound achieved nothing at all to the mixture of the water and paint. That will not work on open water, as the vibrations are transmitted to the water via the container and not by the sound. It is the air pressure produced by the speakers that is causing the container to vibrate, not the sound (i understand that sound is pressure waves in a medium). You'd have better results by cellotaping you dual shock ps3 controller to the container.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭gentillabdulla


    Xios wrote: »
    Erm, it looks like the sound achieved nothing at all to the mixture of the water and paint. That will not work on open water, as the vibrations are transmitted to the water via the container and not by the sound. It is the air pressure produced by the speakers that is causing the container to vibrate, not the sound (i understand that sound is pressure waves in a medium). You'd have better results by cellotaping you dual shock ps3 controller to the container.

    But you can control things with sound.

    You ever heard acoustic levitation?

    It's kind of like that, but directed at oil.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,073 ✭✭✭Xios


    Have you even looked at the current methods of oil extraction, they are quite efficient. As the oil always floats on the surface, it only needs to be contained with a floating wall, perhaps a long snake of inflated tubes. Then it's just a matter of skimming it.

    Your method will not work, as the sound wave cannot be contained, since it has the entire ocean to absorb it. Water is an excellent trasmitter of sound. As i recall, an experiment was done, where 3 powerfull aquaphones were placed in each of the 3 major oceans, pacific/indian/atlantic. A loud artificial tone was played at each and they could all hear each other.

    It's possible your theory could work, but it's ridiculous to attempt as it's highly inefficient and difficult to achieve.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭gentillabdulla


    Xios wrote: »
    Have you even looked at the current methods of oil extraction, they are quite efficient. As the oil always floats on the surface, it only needs to be contained with a floating wall, perhaps a long snake of inflated tubes. Then it's just a matter of skimming it.

    Your method will not work, as the sound wave cannot be contained, since it has the entire ocean to absorb it. Water is an excellent trasmitter of sound. As i recall, an experiment was done, where 3 powerfull aquaphones were placed in each of the 3 major oceans, pacific/indian/atlantic. A loud artificial tone was played at each and they could all hear each other.

    It's possible your theory could work, but it's ridiculous to attempt as it's highly inefficient and difficult to achieve.


    I think you are not understanding it well as it is supposed to work as a skimmer with using sound waves.

    That would be the case if it wasn't arranged like it is supposed to be.

    It's supposed to look like a hollow sphere with the north and south poles open.


    Similar to this...

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    You see it sends he oil to the center and since the water is more dense it tends to be affected less than the oil.

    This objects is mean to be located inside the water.

    If you could supply enough energy to keep it going then the amount of time needed for it to collect all the oil would be the time it took to charge up and the time it takes you to pull it around the gulf.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,073 ✭✭✭Xios


    It's still a needlessly complicated technique. It will not scale in the open ocean, where the oil slick is spanning many thousands of square miles.

    See this link, you need to install the google earth plug in
    http://paulrademacher.com/oilspill/#


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 144 ✭✭gentillabdulla


    Xios wrote: »
    It's still a needlessly complicated technique. It will not scale in the open ocean, where the oil slick is spanning many thousands of square miles.

    See this link, you need to install the google earth plug in
    http://paulrademacher.com/oilspill/#

    It is complicated in a sense.

    Anybody know what BP is currently doin'?


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