Single set triggers for Remington 700

Tackleberrywho

Hi guys.

I'm interested in upgrading my VTR remmy to a set trigger for stalking and the odd bit of target.

I have used set triggers before on several rifles and was afraid of some as a cough set them off.

However after several months using a light timney on my other rifle when i revert back to my .308 the trigger feels like pulling sock through a ditch.

I do not want a constant light trigger as if it is adverse conditions i want to have a safer trigger.

I know a few of you guys mentioned before you have used them. If so;
1. How much ?
2. Pro's
3. Cons
4. was it a Remington 700 you fitted it to?

Thanks in advance for replies.
Tackleberrywho !

dan17

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

Hi guys.

I'm interested in upgrading my VTR remmy to a set trigger for stalking and the odd bit of target.

I have used set triggers before on several rifles and was afraid of some as a cough set them off.

However after several months using a light timney on my other rifle when i revert back to my .308 the trigger feels like pulling sock through a ditch.

I do not want a constant light trigger as if it is adverse conditions i want to have a safer trigger.

I know a few of you guys mentioned before you have used them. If so;
1. How much ?
2. Pro's
3. Cons
4. was it a Remington 700 you fitted it to?

Thanks in advance for replies.
Tackleberrywho !

timney triggers can be adjusted without having to remove action from the stock with a small screwdriver .lots of adjustment in them not sure of correct terms for everything but trigger weight is really the most importat. and last i checked they are round e120 or so for one for a remy.

Tackleberrywho

dan17 wrote: »

timney triggers can be adjusted without having to remove action from the stock with a small screwdriver .lots of adjustment in them not sure of correct terms for everything but trigger weight is really the most importat. and last i checked they are round e120 or so for one for a remy.

My point is I want to adjust pressure in the field.

The Styer manlicher used to have 2 trigger, one set one 2 stage.
A CZ I used had to be pushed forward to set.

This push forward appeals to me.
However I want to be able to SELECT trigger pressure on a moments notice.

dan17

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

My point is I want to adjust pressure in the field.

The Styer manlicher used to have 2 trigger, one set one 2 stage.
A CZ I used had to be pushed forward to set.

This push forward appeals to me.
However I want to be able to SELECT trigger pressure on a moments notice.

sorry cant say i can help. but ya sounds like something people could use. maybe try dragons den

jwshooter

i use them on my rifles set about 7ozs .there not for boys .

Tackleberrywho

jwshooter wrote: »

i use them on my rifles set about 7ozs .there not for boys .

Well I wish I was a boy, Then i would not have a beer gut or Varakie Veins forming on my shins :D

Do you use Set triggers JW?

If so what brand?

Or are you using Jewell or Timney ?

jwshooter

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

Well I wish I was a boy, Then i would not have a beer gut or Varakie Veins forming on my shins :D

Do you use Set triggers JW?

If so what brand?

Or are you using Jewell or Timney ?[/QUOTE

there factory triggers ,push to set or use as normal . you can decock the trigger by pushing it to the left and pulling it .

Tackleberrywho

jwshooter wrote: »

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

Well I wish I was a boy, Then i would not have a beer gut or Varakie Veins forming on my shins :D

Do you use Set triggers JW?

If so what brand?

Or are you using Jewell or Timney ?[/QUOTE

there factory triggers ,push to set or use as normal . you can decock the trigger by pushing it to the left and pulling it .

Someone on here has an after market trigger that can do same, their name escapes me though.

Worst case I will just get a timney and set it around 2.5lbs

i would like a set trigger though if possible.

Tackleberrywho

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=7667/Product/SINGLE_SET_TRIGGER

Anyone use these??

jwshooter

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=7667/Product/SINGLE_SET_TRIGGER

Anyone use these??

a friend of mine has one on 243 remmi .

Tackleberrywho

jwshooter wrote: »

a friend of mine has one on 243 remmi .

What does he think of them?
And what did he pay for it?

I only see them for sale in the US yet they are made in Europe go figure

If they can be bough tin Europe I know the price is the price, no sneaky customs or VAT charges

It wasn't me!

To be honest I'd never use one on a hunting rifle (jwshooter has the experience to make that call - I doubt I ever will) as they're just too sketchy for me. I shoot target rifles with triggers as light as 40g all day long, but would never use one five times that weight in the field. I've shot a .30-06 with one and after two shots I went back to using the trigger in its standard setting. Get a decent trigger and set it about two and a half pounds. That's more than light enough. If it kicks hard, I'd want it at least three pounds, and more likely three and a half, but anything under about a .30-06 is alright.

jwshooter

he likes the trigger but would like it more if it was in a sako

Tackleberrywho

jwshooter wrote: »

he likes the trigger but would like it more if it was in a sako

Thanks for that. JW.

I think I might get one.
I'm doing a bit of tricking about with my rifle in the next few weeks.

The Muzzle break is being replaced with a mod.

Deafened myself yesterday as I fired between two hills and i forgot about the bang being so used to a mod on the .223.

IWM

I first used a set trigger 10 years ago, I have had a lot of trigger time since then.

My fingers are now hyper sensitive as tightening screws and working on highly sensitive equipment has made them that way.

When i was younger I had hands like sandpaper, now they are like a surgeons
A set trigger is heavy if you do not set it and straight pull!

It wasn't me!

jwshooter wrote: »

he likes the trigger but would like it more if it was in a sako

Too right. The first mistake anyone makes in shooting is not owning one. I'd have a fleet of them if they made more left-handed models. Still think mine's going to become a match-grade .30-06 or .300 win mag though in the next few years, and I'd bring the trigger up to maybe three or three and a half pounds then. Still, I've never regretted buying that rifle or felt one that feels so utterly solid, so perfect.

Tack, the issue isn't your hyper-sensitive fingers. It's the tactile response to shooting something that does kick. If you shoot hard-kicking guns with light triggers, it's difficult to keep a firm grip on them for proper control. This is one thing on a range, with a target rifle, where it's not going anywhere, but on a hill somewhere, where you're up on a bipod, out of breath after a long stalk, or where your rest is a fencepost? Nah, normal triggers thanks. Like I say, I've shot more thousands of rounds with a 40-80g trigger than I care to think about, and I still wouldn't have it.

Tackleberrywho

IWM, you only fire one shot on a deer, th eother 5 are just in case.

The .308 is not a big kicker.
All expensive stalking rifles come with a set trigger as standard.

As I said, one does not have to use it!

I was popping a few bunnies yest with the .308 and I would have preferred a lighter trigger is all.

I will build a proper Target rifle in time, probably a defiance machine action trueflite barrel and custom stock with a couple ounce trigger.

However they are not what I want in the field.

The luxury of a set trigger is the option of not using it!

jwshooter

its like this tac , you use set triggers in all your rifles or not at all .

patsat

jwshooter wrote: »

there factory triggers ,push to set or use as normal . you can decock the trigger by pushing it to the left and pulling it .

In the CZ your have to engage the safety then pull the trigger to decock it, would your trigger not go off easily by accident by pushing it to the side??

jwshooter

patsat wrote: »

In the CZ your have to engage the safety then pull the trigger to decock it, would your trigger not go off easily by accident by pushing it to the side??

you can also decock it that way , there is no chance of AD if you know your gun.

try your cz trigger to see will it decock that way.

patsat

jwshooter wrote: »

you can also decock it that way , there is no chance of AD if you know your gun.

try your cz trigger to see will it decock that way.

True I wouldn't have any experience with a trigger that light anyway!

Just checked both mine and neither can be decocked that way. Its all the one to me anyway i'm left handed so pushing the trigger to the left would be too awkward and dangerous!

ejg

I think set triggers are stupid and dangerous. Had one in my CZ 223 and had a few mishaps. For example setting the trigger and then needing to reposition slightly because the fox was moving on...after reposition just finding the position of the trigger it goes off and missed the fox.
I think one can shoot just as well and get much better used to a trigger adjusted around or just under 2lb...always the same no surprises.
Having a rifle that sometimes has a 5lb trigger and sometimes 1/2lb is a recipe for a disaster.

edi

patsat

ejg wrote: »

I think set triggers are stupid and dangerous. Had one in my CZ 223 and had a few mishaps. For example setting the trigger and then needing to reposition slightly because the fox was moving on...after reposition just finding the position of the trigger it goes off and missed the fox.
I think one can shoot just as well and get much better used to a trigger adjusted around or just under 2lb...always the same no surprises.
Having a rifle that sometimes has a 5lb trigger and sometimes 1/2lb is a recipe for a disaster.

edi

I can see your point but as Jw says if you know your gun it won't happen!

ejg

patsat wrote: »

I can see your point but as Jw says if you know your gun it won't happen!

I think that is a big mistake believing that.
The question is not will a shot go off unexpected the question is when.

How many sniper rifles have set triggers?

There is no need to overcomplicate things, safer alternative is just to practice a bit more with a normal well adjusted trigger.

How about a risk study?

edi

jwshooter

ejg wrote: »

I think that is a big mistake believing that.
The question is not will a shot go off unexpected the question is when.

How many sniper rifles have set triggers?

There is no need to overcomplicate things, safer alternative is just to practice a bit more with a normal well adjusted trigger.

How about a risk study?

edi

you were not able to use a set trigger for what ever reason ,you say you had a ND on a fox ,that was your fault not the rifles/triggers .

Tackleberrywho

jwshooter wrote: »

you were not able to use a set trigger for what ever reason ,you say you had a ND on a fox ,that was your fault not the rifles/triggers .

JW

Did yuo find out how much your mate paid for one?

If they are too deer I will get a Timney and be done with it.

either that or a Jewell

Prices in €€'s please

ejg

jwshooter wrote: »

you were not able to use a set trigger for what ever reason ,you say you had a ND on a fox ,that was your fault not the rifles/triggers .

Of course that was my fault, using risky equipement is also my fault. I had two of these premature firings in three years. That's two to many, even though it was only a foot next to the fox it was not intentional.
Why are hardly any of these triggers to be found in the states? Because it is a fact that they are dangerous. If an accident happens and me or you stand in front of the judge what are we going to say. It is known to all and well documented that these are "more" prone to accidental discharge.
Well.... it'll be up to the judge to decide.

edi

Tackleberrywho

ejg wrote: »

Of course that was my fault, using risky equipement is also my fault. I had two of these premature firings in three years. That's two to many, even though it was only a foot next to the fox it was not intentional.
Why are hardly any of these triggers to be found in the states? Because it is a fact that they are dangerous. If an accident happens and me or you stand in front of the judge what are we going to say. It is known to all and well documented that these are "more" prone to accidental discharge.
Well.... it'll be up to the judge to decide.

edi

So are these Austrian triggers any good? I posted a link previously on this thread?

At one time most Stalking rifles from Europe came with set triggers did they not?
http://www.icollector.com/images/1206/17270/17270_0190_1_lg.jpg

jwshooter

personally every shot i take out of my stalking rifles is with the set trigger .

i have seen clients and friends i had out stalking over the years having a NDs with standard triggers .


Excitement and lack of experience with firearm/trigger is far more dangerous that a set trigger in the hands of some one that is familiar with it .

i would not using America as a example ,as they have to have disclaimers and instructions on everything .

on the Continent set triggers are common and come as standard on some of there rifles .

Tackleberrywho

jwshooter wrote: »

personally every shot i take out of my stalking rifles is with the set trigger .

i have seen clients and friends i had out stalking over the years having a NDs with standard triggers .


Excitement and lack of experience with firearm/trigger is far more dangerous that a set trigger in the hands of some one that is familiar with it .

i would not using America as a example ,as they have to have disclaimers and instructions on everything .

on the Continent set triggers are common and come as standard on some of there rifles .

So what would you say are the best ones to buy?

jwshooter

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

So are these Austrian triggers any good? I posted a link previously on this thread?

At one time most Stalking rifles from Europe came with set triggers did they not?
http://www.icollector.com/images/1206/17270/17270_0190_1_lg.jpg

rifles that are bound for america dont come with set triggers and will have a high pull weight .

thats why rifles coming the other way have terribly high trigger pulls

Tackleberrywho

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

Hi guys.

I'm interested in upgrading my VTR remmy to a set trigger for stalking and the odd bit of target.

I have used set triggers before on several rifles and was afraid of some as a cough set them off.

However after several months using a light timney on my other rifle when I revert back to my .308 the trigger feels like pulling sock through a ditch.

I do not want a constant light trigger as if it is adverse conditions i want to have a safer trigger with say 2.5 lbs pull or 3 lbs

I know a few of you guys mentioned before you have used them. If so;
1. How much in €€ ?
2. Pro's
3. Cons, (do the they come without a safety)?
4. Was it a Remington 700 you fitted it to?
5. Have you had any ND's with it?

Thanks in advance for replies.
Tackleberrywho !

Nobody as answered my questions fully, so re posting