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Made another video about Irish army weapons

  • 01-07-2010 6:24pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭


    Myself and another Irish member here in the USA made a video about Irish army personal weapons from 1922 through to today
    We cover :
    No1Mk3
    No4Mk2
    FN FAL
    Steyr AUG (clone)
    Browning Auto Pistol (BAP)



Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭José Alaninho


    Great vid guys! Good to see some people shooting in a (relatively) free country. And before I forget, you gotta work on that follow through harmoniums ;):p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    Manic Moran making his debut there too. :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭José Alaninho


    Manic Moran making his debut there too. :p

    Didn't realise! :eek: Nice one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,034 ✭✭✭✭It wasn't me!


    Didn't realise! :eek: Nice one.

    He's gone native, doesn't sound Irish these days.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭deeksofdoom


    I've seen better lectures given by buckshee corporals in the FCA and recruits that could have named all the parts properly as well.:rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭harmoniums


    I've seen better lectures given by buckshee corporals in the FCA and recruits that could have named all the parts properly as well.:rolleyes:

    Yeah, I'm not exactly a professional.
    What parts were named incorrectly?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭deeksofdoom


    Might be easier if you just named the parts that you do actually know the names of.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭harmoniums


    Might be easier if you just named the parts that you do actually know the names of.

    I'm sensing some hostility here Sir, but would greatly appreciate any corrections you could point out.
    Thanks in advance!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,041 ✭✭✭José Alaninho


    Thought it was a nice video myself. Just a showcase, not meant to be instructional, or am I wrong? Either way, pretty hostile response dude!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,438 ✭✭✭frantic190


    Yeah thought it was a good video, well done lads!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭deeksofdoom


    harmoniums wrote: »
    I'm sensing some hostility here Sir, but would greatly appreciate any corrections you could point out.
    Thanks in advance!

    My apologies, its just that if you are going to post a video it would be better if you could give the names of the parts correctly. I'm no expert either. I trained on the FN and the Steyr and missed out on training on the .303 by about 12 months. But it would have been much more informative if you could have explained the differences between the .303s and named the parts on the FN.

    Any guy on here that was ever in the FCA will say that's not what you call that and so on.....

    Sorry about the hostile tone of my posts.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    My apologies, its just that if you are going to post a video it would be better if you could give the names of the parts correctly. I'm no expert either. I trained on the FN and the Steyr and missed out on training on the .303 by about 12 months. But it would have been much more informative if you could have explained the differences between the .303s and named the parts on the FN.

    Any guy on here that was ever in the FCA will say that's not what you call that and so on.....

    Sorry about the hostile tone of my posts.

    The irish had a manual on every thing, It was the BIBLE.

    So if the Author said it was called a Giggle Pin, Everyone had to call it that.

    The Irish constantly refer to ball type ammo never to FMJ.

    So it can seem incorrect if someone calls something by a different name, especially when it was drilled into you that this piece was called the cocking piece, ejection way, muzzle flash eliminator; When all these parts can be referred to by other names.

    A Bit like Rickard & Dick. Same name but not the same.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    Any guy on here that was ever in the FCA will say that's not what you call that and so on.....
    Mentioned to an ex-FCA member a while ago that I'd been shooting the SMLE, which he'd shot in the FCA for a few years. When I mentioned that I'd removed the magazine to load it, he looked at me funny - apparently during several years in the FCA, they'd trained them that the box magazine couldn't be removed.

    Perhaps not all the training standards were always as high as today's deeks...



    BTW harmoniums, nice video but ffs mate, "let's kill some british"? Not cool. :(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,954 ✭✭✭homerhop


    Grumbles over correct terms and non pc jokes, place is going to hell. Take it as what it is, a video of lads doing something the majority of us would love to be able to do..passing a day firing ex irish service pieces and cracking a joke. lads need to lighten up a little!!!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    Sparks wrote: »
    Mentioned to an ex-FCA member a while ago that I'd been shooting the SMLE, which he'd shot in the FCA for a few years. When I mentioned that I'd removed the magazine to load it, he looked at me funny - apparently during several years in the FCA, they'd trained them that the box magazine couldn't be removed.

    Perhaps not all the training standards were always as high as today's deeks...



    BTW harmoniums, nice video but ffs mate, "let's kill some british"? Not cool. :(

    Not cool Harmoniums.
    leave the past in the past.

    And regards the FCA/RDF I constantly get given out to for referring to a styer as a Firearm, not a WEAPON.

    Equally I introduced WD40 as a cleaning agent to my unit, along with my .223 push rod. I was sick watching people get pieces of flannel in a barrel.

    I can say Styer have a full drawing and naming of parts on their website.

    I also had folk tell me that AUG meant Army universal Gun. I said universal Army rifle. I was told I was wrong, It was not in the manual. The DF manual written by a paddy:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    homerhop wrote: »
    Grumbles over correct terms and non pc jokes, place is going to hell.
    No it's not. Go onto a range sometime and ask someone firing a .223 how much they like their NATO M-16 round, and you'll find out fairly fast how much correct terms are appreciated in "real life" :D

    As to the non-pc jokes, would you have made that joke in the Comber rifle club? Or East Antrim? Or Dungannon? Or Bisley?

    Some things really aren't un-pc, they're just not that funny.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭harmoniums


    Sparks wrote: »
    Mentioned to an ex-FCA member a while ago that I'd been shooting the SMLE, which he'd shot in the FCA for a few years. When I mentioned that I'd removed the magazine to load it, he looked at me funny - apparently during several years in the FCA, they'd trained them that the box magazine couldn't be removed.

    Perhaps not all the training standards were always as high as today's deeks...



    BTW harmoniums, nice video but ffs mate, "let's kill some british"? Not cool. :(

    I know I'm desperate with my Republicanism! ;)
    Its only a laugh lads, they gave us a nice railway system and great rifles!
    Rumour has it they seem to have a sense of self deprecating humour also


    Although they make take slight at you spelling their nationality in lower case!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭harmoniums


    Sparks wrote: »
    No it's not. Go onto a range sometime and ask someone firing a .223 how much they like their NATO M-16 round, and you'll find out fairly fast how much correct terms are appreciated in "real life" :D

    Actually we called it 5.56 NATO, the correct designation as that particular ammo was from Lake City (M855)
    .223 and 5.56 are interchangeable but do have slight dimensional differences


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    harmoniums wrote: »
    Its only a laugh lads
    Maybe from where you're sitting harmoniums, but from over here it just looked rude. Kinda spoilt the whole thing for me to be honest. Which was a shame, the rest was rather good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    harmoniums wrote: »
    Actually we called it 5.56 NATO, the correct designation as that particular ammo was from Lake City (M855)
    .223 and 5.56 are interchangeable but do have slight dimensional differences
    See homerhop? :)

    (BTW, .223 and 5.56 are only interchangeable if you have a chamber designed for that - a 5.56 round in a .223 chamber is a safety risk)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,954 ✭✭✭homerhop


    Some things really aren't un-pc, they're just not that funny.
    

    If it had been a mauser he had been firing and put on his best allo allo accent would you say the same thing?

    I have been in the northern counties and a few places in England and had a lot worse said to me all of which i took no offence to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,954 ✭✭✭homerhop


    Sparks wrote: »
    See homerhop? :)

    (BTW, .223 and 5.56 are only interchangeable if you have a chamber designed for that - a 5.56 round in a .223 chamber is a safety risk)

    Makes a mental note that in future all posts must be correct in every aspect and terminology and (humour free to some of us):D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭harmoniums


    Sparks wrote: »
    Maybe from where you're sitting harmoniums, but from over here it just looked rude. Kinda spoilt the whole thing for me to be honest. Which was a shame, the rest was rather good.

    OK I'll edit it out, you're right, it might have a broader appeal then


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,134 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    I think this is humourous in the extreme.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    homerhop wrote: »
    Makes a mental note that in future all posts must be correct in every aspect and terminology and (humour free to some of us):D
    Well, the 5.56-v-223 point could cause injury in the worst cases, so that one's fair game :D
    And I've got an odd sense of humour I guess, 'cos that whole tribalism thing just doesn't tweak my nipples. I want to laugh with people, not at them. I'm just a silly, silly hippie that way...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭harmoniums


    Sparks wrote: »
    Well, the 5.56-v-223 point could cause injury in the worst cases, so that one's fair game :D
    And I've got an odd sense of humour I guess, 'cos that whole tribalism thing just doesn't tweak my nipples. I want to laugh with people, not at them. I'm just a silly, silly hippie that way...

    yeah there's a few more thousand PSI in a nato round I think.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    Grizzly 45 wrote: »
    I think this is humourous in the extreme.:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

    I once heard, a fella saying Lee Enfields were used to shoot people in paddy land. I was not impressed.

    I have to say har I love your videos, and I love your life!

    I'd love to have all that stuff.

    A lot of Irish died under the English flag just as a lot died under the flag of the Republic.

    I am a serving member of the Irish RDF and i do it out of National pride, as the financial renumeration I get from them just bout covers my expenses on travel and gear I buy to either help me instruct fellow reserves on Firearms or tactical gear for living on the ground.

    I like to see Videos like this and HOPE in a few years we may have a chance to legally own ex service rifles and pistols.

    If not i will have to emigrate to Silicon Hills :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    harmoniums wrote: »
    yeah there's a few more thousand PSI in a nato round I think.
    Yup, different throat specs. If your chamber isn't designed for it (or just isn't up to it because of wear&tear), the official word is that it might get unpleasant.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,645 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    I've seen better lectures given by buckshee corporals in the FCA and recruits that could have named all the parts properly as well.:rolleyes:

    What? You saying that 'Happy Switch' is not the correct term for the selector?

    Seriously, if you really want me to say 'Breech block and slide' vice 'Bolt and carrier' I can do that, but I'm in the US and have long moved to US terminology. Heck, most Americans would have a blank face if I said 'body locking lever' as the upper body is known as the upper receiver.

    NTM


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,038 ✭✭✭✭Sparks


    What? You saying that 'Happy Switch' is not the correct term for the selector?
    Actually, that one did have me laughing out loud.
    "Happy switch" :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,954 ✭✭✭homerhop


    Sparks wrote: »
    And I've got an odd sense of humour I guess, 'cos that whole tribalism thing just doesn't tweak my nipples. I want to laugh with people, not at them. I'm just a silly, silly hippie that way...

    tis ok Sparks as i tell everyone i meet I am not a racist, i treat everyone with the same contempt,myself included.

    but back to the topic, nice video harmonious and manic ye are lucky guys to have that collection


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 16,645 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    As far as the .223 thing is concerned, what is engraved on the rifle itself by the manufacturer?
    (I'll lay money it's not .223)
    But it would have been much more informative if you could have explained the differences between the .303s and named the parts on the FN.

    You know, there might be something on that... give us a day or two for the Mk 3 version of this. Hang on...

    NTM


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭vixdname


    I've seen better lectures given by buckshee corporals in the FCA and recruits that could have named all the parts properly as well.:rolleyes:

    Well done on the video lads, really enjoyed it. Fair play to ye for going to all that bother so as to produce a video for us all to enjoy !!!

    deeksofdoom - When are you going to post up a video that you made so as we can all see what a properly filmed and produced and edited instructional video looks like ? Would love to see your offering !!! :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 940 ✭✭✭kerryman12


    Nice video guys, thanks for posting and I am looking forward to the next one.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 13 Simo Hayha


    closing the boltson both Lees before your ass even hits the chair ... very safety concious:D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,898 ✭✭✭poulo6.5


    harmoniums wrote: »
    Myself and another Irish member here in the USA made a video about Irish army personal weapons from 1922 through to today
    We cover :
    No1Mk3
    No4Mk2
    FN FAL
    Steyr AUG (clone)
    Browning Auto Pistol (BAP)


    nice video.
    it must be great to be able to shoot and compare old with new like that.
    i'm green with envy :D:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 533 ✭✭✭harmoniums


    poulo6.5 wrote: »
    nice video.
    it must be great to be able to shoot and compare old with new like that.
    i'm green with envy :D:D

    I just watched your videos, that 307 yard bunny shot was excellent.
    if you ever want to try your hand at coyotes or hogs out here look me up, I'll provide the rifles.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,590 ✭✭✭Tackleberrywho


    harmoniums wrote: »
    I just watched your videos, that 307 yard bunny shot was excellent.
    if you ever want to try your hand at coyotes or hogs out here look me up, I'll provide the rifles.

    Can we form a threesome :D

    I have a few mates in Pheonix and New Mexico that have offered me same.

    It's just trying to get the funds together :D

    Maybe I should look for a transfer to the US!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,898 ✭✭✭poulo6.5


    harmoniums wrote: »
    I just watched your videos, that 307 yard bunny shot was excellent.
    if you ever want to try your hand at coyotes or hogs out here look me up, I'll provide the rifles.

    thanks very much i will keep that in mind. same goes if you are ever over my way.
    how ever to quote our great leader "given the current climate" all junkets are off for the being "going forward":D

    in the mean time keep making those videos ;)


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