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Right turning lanes with traffic

  • 01-07-2010 1:58pm
    #1
    **Timbuk2**
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 7,396 Mod ✭✭✭✭


    I have two questions about turning right when there is a right-turning lane, and also queues of traffic. I couldn't find a suitable picture online so I just drew my own (I'm terrible at art :o)
    rightturn.jpg

    1. If there is a queue of traffic in the 'straight-on' lane, which extends further back than the entrance to the right-turning lane, do you have to wait or could you overtake the traffic by entering the ghost traffic island (white and black markings) and entering the right-turning lane? Normally I would queue with the rest and wait until I get there, but I see a lot of cars overtaking by entering the traffic island.

    2. If there is a queue of traffic in the right-turning lane, but none in the straight-on lane, should you wait in the straight-on lane until the right-turning lane has a free space, or should you enter the ghost traffic island and queue behind the traffic in it already. I think the ROTR state that you should wait, but by doing this you would be blocking all traffic from going straight-on. What would you do in this situation?

    I'm not talking about test purposes, but rather everyday driving. I think following the ROTR in the second case would create problems as it completely blocks people from going straight ahead.

    Thanks for reading!


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  • #2
    daveharnett
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,567 ✭✭✭daveharnett


    **Timbuk2** wrote: »
    1. If there is a queue of traffic in the 'straight-on' lane, which extends further back than the entrance to the right-turning lane, do you have to wait or could you overtake the traffic by entering the ghost traffic island (white and black markings) and entering the right-turning lane? Normally I would queue with the rest and wait until I get there, but I see a lot of cars overtaking by entering the traffic island.
    This happens very frequently on Dublin rd near anacotty in Limerick, and yes, I overtake the queue by using the hatched area. I do this quite slowly (maybe 25kph), and I'm very conscious of (motor)bikes and traffic in front of me in the queue moving into my 'lane'. That being said, it's breaking the law for no other reason than a little progress, so really not best practice.
    **Timbuk2** wrote: »
    2. If there is a queue of traffic in the right-turning lane, but none in the straight-on lane, should you wait in the straight-on lane until the right-turning lane has a free space, or should you enter the ghost traffic island and queue behind the traffic in it already. I think the ROTR state that you should wait, but by doing this you would be blocking all traffic from going straight-on. What would you do in this situation?
    Tough call if it were to arise in a test, but in everyday life, no question. If it's safe to do so, I'd move right to allow traffic behind to pass on my left. Consideration for other road users is part of the ROTR too.


  • #3
    Alanstrainor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,157 ✭✭✭✭Alanstrainor


    For every day purposes i would generally cross the hatched markings, as the reality is in a lot of cases, is that the road layout has been very poorly designed meaning that obeying the letter of the law would just turn into a nightmare.

    There are even a few junctions around rathgar which i would cross the hatch markings even in a test since they are so bad. But you wouldn't be penalised for not crossing them.


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