Streets of Rage 3 - Why so expensive?

Josey Wales

I was looking at the prices of Streets of Rage II on eBay. I was surprised by the prices listed for Streets of Rage 3. It is really quite expensive.

What is that makes a game like this so expensive. I would have thought it was quite common when it was released originally. So should there not be lots of copies around now like Sonic?

Retr0gamer

Not sure whay there is a high demand for it either especailly considering the japanese release is far better. There's always copieson sale and doesn't seem to be rare. Think it just got artificially inflated at somepoint like Radiant Silvergun.

o1s1n

It's just that there's a high demand for it. It's one of the most popular series on the console and the third game is a little uncommon. It has nowhere near the number of carts in circulation as Sonic. Or the first two SOR games.

Really has gotten stupid over the last while though. I wouldn't pay more than 30 for a mint copy. Which you can get it for if you look around a bit.

CiDeRmAn

Do I really have to post my opinion up here on this one?
Honestly, do I?

o1s1n

Quiet you! Or it'll be fisticuffs at the next beers.

Josey Wales

It is strange but I honestly can't remember if I owned this game when it came out or if I just rented it a couple of times. I'm pretty sure there are other Mega Drive games I had that I can't remember.

Shapey Fiend

People had lost interest in scrolling fighters by the time SoR3 came out. They only had it in one rental shop in town (whereas the first two games were everywhere) and few people ever seemed to be renting it, perhaps because of the high difficulty level. I'm guessing these factors meant it didn't sell very well and it isn't that common.

mondeo

I rented it years ago in xtra vision, it was good but not fantastic. I would not pay 30 euro for it anyway. :P

CiDeRmAn

o1s1n wrote: »

Quiet you! Or it'll be fisticuffs at the next beers.

The reason it's expensive is because most of the copies of the game were binned, owing to the fact that the whole genre of horizontally scrolling beat'em ups is utter cat shi1te!

There, I said it in a really small script, which is like whispering, which is also being quiet, so no harm done.

Could be worse, could be discussing Golden Axe!

Professey Chin

o1s1n wrote: »

Quiet you! Or it'll be fisticuffs at the next beers.

If its not like this ill be severely disappointed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wa87RHY7xzI

CiDeRmAn

Now now, I won't bring any cool stuff, and if I return home with any strange bruises I won't be allowed out any more!

I tell you what, I take it all back.
I love Streets of Rage, it brilliant, so is GoldenAxe for that matter, what was I thinking?
Now, where's that bottle of meths I was drinking? Still in the fridge? Hmm, there goes another brain cell!

Reason it's so expensive is that by the time the game was released in 1994 the Genesis/MD was in decline and there was little point of producing a game like it in huge numbers when there wasn't the market there.
Not to mention the short-sighted/downright insane marketing of the 32X/MegaCD meant that they were probably cooling on the Genesis anyway, not to mention the imminent release of the Saturn.
Looking at a list of Genesis releases in late 94 is a list of relatively hard to find games, Virtua Racing, Samurai Shodown even Dynamite Heddy.
Only big AAA titles like Sonic and Knuckles seem to have been produced in numbers, then in 95 the Genesis pot becomes a list of muck licences, Garfield: Caught in the Act, and EA annual releases.
Oddly enough, the great Treasure makes some of the best things then, Alien Soldier and Light Crusader, then that was that for them on the format.

So, really, had the game come out in 92/93 there'd be tons of them, but because it caught the tail end of the Genesis phenom, it was made in small numbers and hence there's feck all of them, not to mention those who own it probably really like it and so are keeping it!

Jack burton

Well i got a copy for 30, only because i wanted to have it in the collection, its not a great game, SOR 2 is way better

Its just one of those things, which brings me to my next point, a rare game! I know most of us here will knwo what a rare game is but games that were commercially releaesed surly cant be "that" rare.

Like how many copies of The Wily Wars were produced?

Professey Chin

Jack burton wrote: »

Well i got a copy for 30, only because i wanted to have it in the collection, its not a great game, SOR 2 is way better

Its just one of those things, which brings me to my next point, a rare game! I know most of us here will knwo what a rare game is but games that were commercially releaesed surly cant be "that" rare.

Like how many copies of The Wily Wars were produced?

There was gay pron on the MD!Sega really does what nintendont :eek::eek:

Jack burton

Ultimate Chin wrote: »

There was gay pron on the MD!Sega really does what nintendont :eek::eek:

There was "porn" too on it

CiDeRmAn

Jack burton wrote: »

Like how many copies of The Wily Wars were produced?

He he, Wily, it's kinda like Willy, he he...

o1s1n

Jack burton wrote: »

which brings me to my next point, a rare game! I know most of us here will knwo what a rare game is but games that were commercially releaesed surly cant be "that" rare.

Like how many copies of The Wily Wars were produced?

The main thing to ask is when was the game released and how many were sold?

Games towards the end of a consoles life tend to sell a lot less as people are looking to the next generation of consoles. Production runs are also far lower.

I really don't know what the story with Wily Wars was though. I mean it's a Megaman game for gods sake. By Capcom. You think Sega would have pushed the hell out of it. But no, limited Jap and PAL release. Didn't even see a release in the states. Maybe Nintendo threatened Capcom and they pulled production. Who knows.

Darxide is another one. Last PAL release for the 32X. Tiny production. I'm sure most of the copies were never sold in shops and were eventually sent back.

Jack burton

Yeah but what is a tiny production, 500? 1000? 5000?

Is theres 10'000 copies of The Wily Wars floating around?

I hate sounding like dweeb but are the figures availbile?

o1s1n

Unfortunately there are no figures. Well, none available to the public.

As a comparison, there are only a handful of known copies of Darxide, PAL Tmek and PAL Primal Rage.

That's not the only amount of games that were made, just the amount that surived and showed up. The rest would have gone back to Sega and probably been destroyed/recycled due to not selling. Any other copies which were actually bought are probably either sitting in attics or have been thrown out.

I was always interested in knowing the numbers in print runs. Can only really guess though given the amount of them which are around today.

There's no way for example that there were 10,000 copies of Wily Wars sold. Maybe there were that many made..but no way sold. And it's only the sold copies which survive now!

Jack burton

So we need to get some inside information then? I'll do it, I'll go to Sega HQ in Japan and seduce an attractive 30 somthing female executive and sex the information from her.

Be great to know what actully happened to all the returned copies, I know most of the were destroyed but still like to know. Is it like the flavors at Ben and Jerrys that they dont make anymore?

CiDeRmAn

Hey, what happen though if it's a male Sega executive, and he plays a lot of this?



And as a result, what Jack burton may have to have done to him if he wants a copy of
Streets of Rage 3!


For gods sake, think of the children!
Don't do it!

Warren3

o1s1n wrote: »

As a comparison, there are only a handful of known copies of Darxide, PAL Tmek and PAL Primal Rage.
!

I have been trying to buy these games for 6 months now. Alway go for over £1,000 each. Have only seen 1 copy of each

Hoping one day someone who does not know there value will put them up on ebay as a £10 buy it now!!

justbrian

I bought an ex-rentel copy of SORIII back in 1995. Sadly I don't know where it is now, either vanished at some point or is in the attic in a box somewhere. Now it is too expensive to buy. Really it's not exactly common but it's not rare either there are always 6 to 10 copies on ebay. Just in the middle, so the price they sell for is stupid. (up to 250 sometimes!)

CiDeRmAn

Here's one at a reasonable price,
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/STREETS-RAGE-3-SEGA-MEGADRIVE-COMPLETE-V-RARE-/300442577114
Might buy it myself, then burn it and post the video up here, Mwa Ha HA HAHA!

Here's another one, not too expensive, at least, not yet!
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/sega-mega-drive-game-streets-of-rage-3_W0QQitemZ200488317466QQcategoryZ112804QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4340.m8QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DMW%26its%3DC%26itu%3DUCC%26otn%3D5%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D7335026197804181380#ht_500wt_947

justbrian

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Here's one at a reasonable price,
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/STREETS-RAGE-3-SEGA-MEGADRIVE-COMPLETE-V-RARE-/300442577114
Might buy it myself, then burn it and post the video up here, Mwa Ha HA HAHA!

Here's another one, not too expensive, at least, not yet!
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/sega-mega-drive-game-streets-of-rage-3_W0QQitemZ200488317466QQcategoryZ112804QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4340.m8QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DMW%26its%3DC%26itu%3DUCC%26otn%3D5%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D7335026197804181380#ht_500wt_947

£49.95 is stilll a bit over the top for a game always available on ebay / amazon.

Might bid for the second £21.00 myself.

o1s1n

Heed my previous advice about not spending more than 30 euro delivered for it! It is possible. 50 sterling is a joke!

Jack burton

Yeah I was very lucky with my copy, poped up on adverts for 30, NM comdition too

Is it just mine or does the cart sticker look a little bootleg?

Josey Wales

Well that copy of SoR 3 that was being auctioned went for over €50. I heeded o1s1n's advice about not going over €30.

o1s1n

Jack burton wrote: »

Is it just mine or does the cart sticker look a little bootleg?

Really? Don't think I noticed anything wrong with mine while I spent about an hour minutes trying to get a sticker off it.

Maybe you just got one with a bad print run? Stick up a photo!

Josey Wales wrote: »

Well that copy of SoR 3 that was being auctioned went for over €50. I heeded o1s1n's advice about not going over €30.

Jesus christ, people are insane!

justbrian

For people who don't care if they have the box or not. (I must have a box!)

cheap


EDIT: just noticed £14 for postage, hell with that.