minimum cc to do the test

weeder · 28-06-2010 11:04pm #1

whats the smallest cc bike i can do the A test on?

also can i do the full test on a bike with a 125 with a bigbore kit thats declared?

reason im asking is because i can get a stock 150 top end for my bike which effectively converts it to a stock 150 version of the bike (also could i change this on logbook for doing the test) and it would be ideal if i could do my test with it, also possible for me to go upto 177cc

skelliser · 28-06-2010 11:07pm

Iirc it has to be a 250

weeder · 28-06-2010 11:19pm

nope, you can do it on a 200cc vespa, i know tha much

skelliser · 28-06-2010 11:40pm

Can ya?, I always assumed it was a 250.
Maybe then it goes on that power to weight ratio which is very confusing!

MikeC101 · 29-06-2010 3:04pm

This is what it said on th email I got for my test:

Representative Vehicle : Motorcycle (without a sidecar) with an engine capacity greater than 125cc., and capable of a speed of at least 100km/h.

So you should be covered.

I could have sworn I saw on one of the sites that it had to be "above 125cc" but also "no less than 175cc" (which seems ridiculous), but I can't find anything about 175cc on the RSA site or Citizens Information, so maybe I imagined it.

If in doubt - give the RSA a call or an email, to be sure.

weeder · 29-06-2010 4:45pm

bit of a black hole for guys riding legitimate 150's then isnt it.

MikeC101 · 29-06-2010 6:14pm

Black holes and grey areas are par for the course when it comes to licensing rules here it seems.

This is what I was thinking of, from http://www.msa-ireland.com/licenses.htm

The ‘A1’ Learner Permit is available from 16 years of age, but will restrict the holder to motorcycles of 50cc to 125cc and a 11Kw/14.5bhp limit. Even if you pass the ‘125’ Driving Test, when you up-grade to a bike over 125cc you will need an ‘A’ licence provisional, a second ‘test’ on a bike over 150cc, and endure all restrictions.

Looks like I imagined the 175cc thing - Maybe the 150cc requirement is only for taking the test the second time round for an A license if you're already gotten an A1. Or maybe it was just made up by the MSA, because I don't see anything about it on the RSA site.

I'd say you'll be fine with a bored to 150cc bike, but check it out in advance, having a printout of an email okaying it from the RSA in case you get a dickish tester on the day couldn't hurt.

Tomohawk · 29-06-2010 10:22pm

I passed the test on a vespa PX200 no bother. But your right it's all a bit unclear for beginners...

duboce · 30-06-2010 8:06am

When you get nofication of your A test, the information letter from the RSA says your motorcycle must be over 125cc and capable of at least 100km/h.

Most 150cc (or over) bikes would be fine for an A test

As regards using a big-bore kit, this could be messy, usually the engine CC is moulded on the side of the barrel, if that was obvious and you had all the neccessary paperwork done in advance you may get by.

The information from http://www.msa-ireland.com/licenses.htm in not the official website.

Try www.rsa.ie for more informaition or ring them if you need more.