Anyone know this car or have an opinion..

johnos1984

I was contacted by this seller who was offering a swap plus cash for my own car.

http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/vintagecars/1381462

Anyone know this car?

Does anyone know anything about this model of Porsche what to watch for etc.

Does anyone have any opinions etc. regarding them?

Personally I'm not sure although the idea of having a Porsche is appealing just this one looks a bit dog eared and overpriced.

unkel

You might have more luck in the Classic Cars forum (click the link under my username). There are several Porsche 924 owners in there who are regular contributors to the forum.

johnos1984

Thanks

Alanstrainor

Thread moved to classic cars:)

Bigus

That appears to either have the wrong body or later 944 parts fitted.Front wings bonnet 1/4 panels
OR
Maybe he put older chassis plate on later car to avail of cheap vintage tax

Either way looks like a dog, no wonder he's trying to swap because he ain't goin to sell it.

johnos1984

Its nice to know what your talking about!

From speaking to the seller earlier I can tell you the following:

• It was 'upgraded' by a Porsche specialist in Britain at some stage and has little history apart from a few mot certs.
• The mileage on the clock reads 9500 but the actual mileage is whatever you want it to be.
• It has carrera upgraded dials etc. and a GT bodykit added 8 years ago
• The speedo works when it feels like it.
• There is a small amount of bubbling on one of the bonnet edges and two blemishes in the paintwork of the bonnet.

• There was some issue with the fuel, if the car warms up it gets hard to start but this has been fixed by some sort of switch. i think he was on about fuel evaporation but not fully sure. You had to keep turning it over for 30 seconds or something before it would start (a common issue according to the seller )
• Other than that its as tacky as hell but as I like different cars it appeals to me in a weird way.

As for the price I think its a bit ridiculous.

unkel

johnos1984 wrote: »

if the car warms up it gets hard to start but this has been fixed by some sort of switch. i think he was on about fuel evaporation but not fully sure. You had to keep turning it over for 30 seconds or something before it would start (a common issue according to the seller )

The seller is right on that one

Dades here will come along at some point to explain exactly what that warm start issue is and how the switch solves it!

superfly35

Hi John,

Well I have a 924 too and another couple guys here have it too.

For the porsche model, I would say that it is probably the most easier, and cheaper to maintain.

The model was made in collaboration with WW, so a lot of parts are coming from WW, they are easy and cheap enough.

The body after 1980 are fully galvanised, and the pre 1980 have the floor pan only gavanised.

The interior are a bit tacky generaly, dashboard are cracking, seat are tear and cut.

Regarding his offer, well I don't know what you drive. I think this car is a bit over price, for the rest is a question of taste so I won't comment it.

Basically his car got a body kit on it, the seat are not original, the mirror are not, the spoiler is not (there was no rear spoiler on pre 1980, I believe).
I think it s a carrera body, which I believe is a after market thing (but i could be wrong on that) only few carrera GT were made and are pricy.

Well, I hope it is helping you. If you have more question don't hesitate.
The 924 are really great porsche for enthousiast, I like them

mathepac

OK, you'll need to check everything I'm going to say about the car in the picture and the seller (if they find out) may take out a contract on me.

The reg seems right for an original 1978 Dublin car, but the body and wheels are wrong. The seller says that the interior is "carrera leather", which seems OK including the matching steering wheel, but to my eye the car has a full Carrera GT (1980, 938) body-kit and wheels. I'm not saying that's a bad thing but IMHO you would not be buying an original 1978 924, if that's what you want.

If you can get the VIN and engine number you can check it out.

The 1978 924 would not have had a dog-leg 5-speed gearbox fiited as OE, it would have been an Audi 4-speed box. That 5-speed is probably out of a later Turbo (932).

The 924 would have had a 2.0 litre NA Audi engine fitted (used in the Audi 100 and VW commercials), producing 125 bhp (back then, God only knows what now) and would have had disc brakes in front and drums at the rear.

This car was originally designed by Porsche for VW as VW's entry into the 2+2 coupe market, but after the oil-crisis, VW cancelled the project and launched the Scirocco instead. Porsche bought the designs back from VW and produced their 1st front-engined RWD 2+2 coupe.

The colour is good (Guard's Red, my own personal favourite), but watch the rear hatch-back area for rust as well as the wheel arches and if you buy one, don't break the rear window!!!!!!!

HTH

mathepac

LIGHTNING wrote: »

No it could have the older 5 speed gearbox that had first where 1st normally is. The engine is most likely the slightly detuned version and is probably pushing 115hp as opposed to the post 80`s 125hp.

Sound - thanks.

Just to second some comments from above - price is way too high for what it is, but a good one could be a little gem, but will be expensive and you'll need FPSH with invoices and work orders.

superfly35

Just for comparison, this one looks a bit better to me.
http://cars.donedeal.ie/for-sale/vintagecars/1394203

I have get the engine of my 924 this weekend finally... need to rebuild it

johnos1984

I'll call the seller tomorrow however I don't imagine there will be a deal done as he is just looking for too much money.

My car (a Rover SD1) has a full service history and is nice and original which is something I always like however having looked at the other 924's I'm going to keep them in mind for my next car.

Thanks for all the advice people and I'll let you know how it all goes tomorrow

carchaeologist

mathepac wrote: »

The reg seems right for an original 1978 Dublin car

Is it not on a ZV?

johnos1984

Its definitely an import being a ZV and also the seller said it was

mathepac

carchaeologist wrote: »

Is it not on a ZV?

It sure is, thanks - I managed to get myself confused by having pictures of another 924 open as I wrote the post.

superfly35

If I reckon correctly the owner has also a red one of them for parts.

Dades

johnos1984 wrote: »

I'll call the seller tomorrow however I don't imagine there will be a deal done as he is just looking for too much money.

Don't be doing any deal for that car! You really will pick up a nice one in the UK for half that (I paid €1,500 for mine plus €700 VRT as it was post 1980). That one has been on sale for at least a year I suspect. It all depends if you are interested in a 924, or a 924 that looks like a 944, or a 944!

unkel wrote: »

Dades here will come along at some point to explain exactly what that warm start issue is and how the switch solves it!

Well...

Some googling will explain it better, but many 924s do suffer from an issue whereby the car can be very hard to start when warm. That is, starts great from cold and hot, but if left for 15mins or longer will crank for ages before catching. Like unkel says, it's something to do with vapour in the fuel lines. The "switch" is really a bodge, but given the time and expense I've seen people go through replacing every part trying to nail down the problem - it's an honest option!

Basically it's a little wired switch to the cold start valve that fools the car into thinking it's starting from cold, and thereby making it squirt a little extra gas. I fitted mine myself and I'm no mechanic!



Test all the electrics on any car you look at. And check the voltmeter on the center dash to see the alt is putting out 13V when the car is on the move. Charging issues can be a bitch to sort!

a_v525

superfly35 wrote: »

I have get the engine of my 924 this weekend finally... need to rebuild it

Want to do mine while you're at it??

Dades wrote: »

Well...

Some googling will explain it better, but many 924s do suffer from an issue whereby the car can be very hard to start when warm. That is, starts great from cold and hot, but if left for 15mins or longer will crank for ages before catching. Like unkel says, it's something to do with vapour in the fuel lines. The "switch" is really a bodge, but given the time and expense I've seen people go through replacing every part trying to nail down the problem - it's an honest option!

Basically it's a little wired switch to the cold start valve that fools the car into thinking it's starting from cold, and thereby making it squirt a little extra gas. I fitted mine myself and I'm no mechanic!

Aah!! Sound lad.
I've a weird rocker switch beside my hazards that I traced back to my CSV & had no clue wtf it was for, never asked the seller. Been wonderin what the hell it was for, thanks for lettin me know. I used to just push it randomly waitin for somethin to happen:rolleyes:
Never had the hot start prob yet so good to know what its for.

superfly35

a_v525 wrote: »

Want to do mine while you're at it??

Well let just they that, I have about 3 other projects before being free

johnos1984

Thanks for all the info guys.

I didn't get the chance to ring the seller this evening however I don't really want the car after thinking about it. I hadn't even considered one until he called however they are a nice car if they are in original condition and shall definitely be considered next. For the moment I just need to sell my own *which* I hope to do next Saturday with a guy who has been trying to sell his own classic for a few months now, I think its an Audi 200 quattro or something like that.

Thanks for all the info again,

kind regards,

John

Dades

a_v525 wrote: »

Aah!! Sound lad.
I've a weird rocker switch beside my hazards that I traced back to my CSV & had no clue wtf it was for, never asked the seller. Been wonderin what the hell it was for, thanks for lettin me know. I used to just push it randomly waitin for somethin to happen:rolleyes:
Never had the hot start prob yet so good to know what its for.

Happy days if you never have the start issue!

I wouldn't be pushing that switch too much if I were you - it doesn't work like a nitrous! Will more likely cause a vacuum leak to pop up somewhere.

Tigger

on that red 924:

its not worth €50 i look at it last year

johnos1984

Tigger wrote: »

on that red 924:

its not worth €50 i look at it last year

Thanks Tigger. Any ideas why in case anyone else goes looking at it?

I've decided not to go near it anyway. I have a guy interested in my Rover but he has to sell his own car first so hopefully that'll be this Saturday

Tigger

Trust me. I acually wrote the list earlier and decided not to post as people would think i was exaggerating.

johnos1984

Tigger wrote: »

Trust me. I acually wrote the list earlier and decided not to post as people would think i was exaggerating.

That says it all really!