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Large dental chain wexford??

  • 28-06-2010 11:11am
    #1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1


    hey guys just wondering has anyone tried the chain dental clinic in wexford or enniscorthy ?
    just wondering as the rates are lower than most dentists is the quality there or are you better off paying more?
    i rang to check prices a check up complete with dental layout plan and xrays costs €40 compared with a dentist i visited in limerick where the price was €50 and an added €30 to get xrays
    an extraction is €65 and in limerick €90 :confused:

    *** mod edit no names allowed ****


Comments

  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,535 ✭✭✭btkm8unsl0w5r4


    This is a large chain of dentists in ireland, I had to remove the names to comply with the forum rules (please read).

    40 euro seems very cheap of a through exam. Either its very quick and hence not detailed, they run it as a loss leader, the scale and polish is not included, and certainly OPG X-rays will not be included.

    I am sure its absolutely fine....tell us the price after a scale and polish and a OPG. Certainly I used to charge 90 euro, but that included a cleaning, all small intraoral X-rays and OPG X-rays were 50 euro extra.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 656 ✭✭✭bureau2009


    Fitzgeme - out of interest could you indicate a ballpark figure for:

    1. Dental Exam
    2. Scale & Polish

    The reason I ask is that I love my dentist so much - he spends a full 30 minutes going through every surface of every tooth and explains brushing & flossing technique AND I have an idea he charges me below average prices. Do dentists work according to an hourly rate?

    As indicated above I think my dentist is WONDERFUL so I don't really care how much he charges me!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,257 ✭✭✭Squiggle


    Like GP fees it varies as this article indicates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,927 ✭✭✭georgieporgy


    that article was one of the most ill informed and misleading I ever read on the subject. perhaps the indo should pay its reporters more and get higher calibre writers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 599 ✭✭✭day dreamer


    I agree Georgy, the recent Indo piece on dentistry was not a good source of information for patients, more of advertisement. The consumer agencies have not been kind to dentists implying price fixing even though their survey clearly shows a wide price differential. Also when promoting dental treatment abroad they never mention quality, running costs etc

    I would think an examination and cleaning would cost €80-90, xrays may be extra if needed


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    A colleague of mine had quite a lot of work done with these guys and was very impressed with the service.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,257 ✭✭✭Squiggle


    that article was one of the most ill informed and misleading I ever read on the subject. perhaps the indo should pay its reporters more and get higher calibre writers.

    To be fair she was only quoting from an NCA survey.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,535 ✭✭✭btkm8unsl0w5r4


    I think the point is the interpretation of the data.

    Basically the conclusion was because the price in Dublin city center is higher than at in small rural towns, it behoves the city centre dentist to lower prices. This is a really idiotic conclusion. What the survey showed is that because their is no price fixing in the GP and dental professions each practice sets its prices based on their cost base. Higher cost locations tend to have higher fees.

    Patients can choose where they want to have treatment, but the convenience of a central location or high street location is offset by generally higher fees. The dentist charging more may make less than the one charging less. It is a part of life that things cost more in certain areas.

    This was not a case of manipulating the statistics but totally missing the point in order to generate the story that would read best and tally with the live line style anti professional, anti medical media generated public opinions


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 Allrounder


    I am currently trying to arrange dental treatment for myself and my wife as we both require a lot of work.

    In my case I need root canal treatment for three front teeth and crowns for same, filling of one molar and cleaning of all teeth. I require sedation during treatment.

    The big chain clinic referred to (there is only one in Enniscorthy) charged me 60 euros to examine me and have now quoted me €5,000!!!

    My wife wants to replace a denture which has five teeth, four of them at the front. The clinic wants to fit a "Maryland Bridge" and will charge €10,000. They also charged €60 for the exam and €300 to take impressions!!

    Now, would any of you dentists on this thread like to tell me how this is not a ripoff?

    I'm retired, have no private insurance, I'm outside the tax net so I can't even get tax relief on the cost of our dental treatment.

    Are we going elsewhere? - Damn straight! - we're currently investigating going up north.

    Allrounder


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69 ✭✭foret


    My wife wants to replace a denture which has five teeth, four of them at the front. The clinic wants to fit a "Maryland Bridge" and will charge €10,000


    Your quotes are so off scale they are not worth debating.
    If you are going to bandy figures about be clear what you are referring to.


    Get a written quote from your dentist ; you can be assured that you were not quoted 10k for a maryland bridge.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,535 ✭✭✭btkm8unsl0w5r4


    Agreed a maryland bidge will not cost 10k even a 6 unit like that.

    There are many things in life I want but cant afford, doesnt mean they are a rip off. Complex crown and bridge work is necessarly expensive if done correctly, with care, time and proper planning and aftercare.

    When yout not used to paying for dental treatment as many people who find themselves needing bigs jobs are not, the thought of spending that on your teeth can be frightening, but after the years of neglect or lack of treatment it all build up I am afraid.

    Also I would not rush into giving a large chain that much money. What if the dentist that treats you is gone in a few months or years (as these dentists are employees and have no stake in the practice itself) where does your aftercare come from. There are plenty of good dentists around that area that will charge you less....PM sent ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 Allrounder


    foret wrote: »
    My wife wants to replace a denture which has five teeth, four of them at the front. The clinic wants to fit a "Maryland Bridge" and will charge €10,000


    Your quotes are so off scale they are not worth debating.
    If you are going to bandy figures about be clear what you are referring to.


    Get a written quote from your dentist ; you can be assured that you were not quoted 10k for a maryland bridge.

    Thanks for your kind words, Floret - was it? :cool:.

    However, I do have a written quote in my hand which means that I am crystal clear about exactly what I am referring to while bandying figures about.

    You can be absolutely assured that you are quite wrong in this instance.

    Now run along and try not to be so condescending in future!

    Best Regards


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,535 ✭✭✭btkm8unsl0w5r4


    Scan the quote and post it, covering the name of the clinic lets have a look......

    I tidied your post, red and bold lettering is rude shouting, forums are not like real life conversations, sarcasm does not translate nor does tone remember that when posting and reading posts. The tone you infer from somebody's words is your own not theirs.

    Ah.....Zen like calm................


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48 Allrounder


    Dear Fitzgme,

    Given the tone and offensive content of the post by 'foret', to which I was responding, I would have thought that his/her post should have been edited or blocked for being rude, condescending and insulting but you didn't interfere with that one - 'makes me wonder about Foret's trade?

    I absolutely agree the need for Moderators on forums. However, there is a chasm of divide between a Moderator and a Censor and 'nere the twain should meet'.

    Editing a poster's tone, inflection, nuance or emphasis, as they chose to compose/express it is nothing short of Censorship. There is a line you should not cross and that's the line of freedom of expression - once you do you become a Censor.

    If any poster wishes to vent or even be sarcastic towards someone who has offended them in a post on the forum then nobody else should interfere with what they post provided the post is not openly abusive, doesn't contain bad language and is not legally questionable. (The bolding in this para is for emphasis and does not represent "rude shouting")

    The construction of the post you edited was careful and deliberate. Yes, it was scarcastic and deliberately so. Given the offensive content of the post to which I was replying, my offering was measured and controlled.

    If we all speak (and write) in monotone, as you suggest, we will soon stop listening to each other. Also, if we tollerate ignorence and bad manners we will deserve nothing better.

    I wish you all well.

    Over and Out :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,049 ✭✭✭digzy


    what a load of bo**ox! hope nobody looks side ways at you today. 'offensive' my eye!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,535 ✭✭✭btkm8unsl0w5r4


    Can you believe it, I actually offered this guy a second opinion for himself and his wife for free :eek: Well that offer is withdrawn.:rolleyes:

    This kind of keyboard warrior stuff is not acceptable, everyone is trying to help you and you have gotten a lot of good free advice from people who know what they are talking about.

    Take a break from this forum for lets say 1 week and if you want come back with a less aggressive attitude.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 32,865 ✭✭✭✭MagicMarker


    Allrounder wrote: »
    Dear Fitzgme,

    Given the tone and offensive content of the post by 'foret', to which I was responding, I would have thought that his/her post should have been edited or blocked for being rude, condescending and insulting but you didn't interfere with that one - 'makes me wonder about Foret's trade?

    I absolutely agree the need for Moderators on forums. However, there is a chasm of divide between a Moderator and a Censor and 'nere the twain should meet'.

    Editing a poster's tone, inflection, nuance or emphasis, as they chose to compose/express it is nothing short of Censorship. There is a line you should not cross and that's the line of freedom of expression - once you do you become a Censor.

    If any poster wishes to vent or even be sarcastic towards someone who has offended them in a post on the forum then nobody else should interfere with what they post provided the post is not openly abusive, doesn't contain bad language and is not legally questionable. (The bolding in this para is for emphasis and does not represent "rude shouting")

    The construction of the post you edited was careful and deliberate. Yes, it was scarcastic and deliberately so. Given the offensive content of the post to which I was replying, my offering was measured and controlled.

    If we all speak (and write) in monotone, as you suggest, we will soon stop listening to each other. Also, if we tollerate ignorence and bad manners we will deserve nothing better.

    I wish you all well.

    Over and Out :P
    This is boards, you don't have freedom of expression here. Which is why I can't call you a gobshíte, for instance.

    Your post (that was edited) was extremely childish and condescending, something a person of retirement age should have grown out of a long time ago.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,535 ✭✭✭btkm8unsl0w5r4


    I assure everyone the only thing I edited on that post was the red lettering and bold and all caps to try and take the aggressive tone off it.....you cant help some people....helpdesk thread should be interesting.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,535 ✭✭✭btkm8unsl0w5r4


    By PM...from Allrounder


    Allrounder wrote:
    Hi Allrounder,

    You have been banned from Dental Issues for the following duration:

    7 Day(s)

    for the following reason:

    Agressive, abusive, questioning moderation decisions.

    Providing your ban is not permanent, it will be lifted automatically after 7 Day(s). You will get an automatic message informing you that the ban is lifted. If you do not receive this message after the alloted time, please PM a moderator to clarify.
    Also, please be aware that an abusive response to this automated message may result in an extension of your ban, or in extreme cases, being banned from the entire site.

    Thanks,

    Forum Moderator.

    Many thanks for the clarification - If I had known you were omnipitent I would never have said anything.

    You are indeed a CENSOR and a bad tempered one at that.

    He who must be obeyed?? Don't think so.

    Goodbye

    Ban extended to permanent ban from dental issues....goodbye


  • Moderators Posts: 1,589 ✭✭✭Big_G


    Totally agree with the ban. The 10000 was clearly an overquote because the dentist didn't want to have anything to do with them and is now delighted they are both travelling elsewhere for treatment. Hope they don't land on my doorstep.


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