Planet Serpo

profitius

I just came across this site http://www.serpo.org/ for anyone who is interested. Its about 12 humans who spent years on an Alien planet called Serpo. They were guests of the same Alien race (called the Ebons) that crashed in Roswell.

The founder of the site - Bill Ryan - has said that theres alot of disinformation about it but he believes it the exchange took place.

Sparticle

This is weird even for this forum.

Logically there are four possibilities:

1) Anonymous is a prankster and the reported data is either all invented or culled from other sources and added to a wild novelistic story.

2) Anonymous is operating to a planned agenda and the information is deliberately distorted, but contains a core of extraordinary truth.

3) Anonymous is doing his best to report data from an indirect source (personal notes, his own short or long term memory, or another person), but accidental errors, omissions and additions have occurred.

4) Anonymous is reporting everything faithfully and accurately as best as he can present it.

Only possibility (1) means everything should be rejected. The other three necessarily mean that the reports deserve close attention.

The guy kind of shoots himself in the foot there.

profitius

Sparticle wrote: »

The guy kind of shoots himself in the foot there.

Bill Ryan is the interviewer on many project camelot videos on youtube. He is half skeptical but open minded.

Sparticle

Well Bill Ryan clearly has some problems with Occam's razor.

adam500

Bill ryan is the co founder of project camelot with kerry cassidy and the founder of project avalon. Serpo is an interesting idea, from the research that i've done the name "Serpo" was probably made up out of somebody's imagination but I do think that an exchange program took place and I believe that these programs are still occurring, not in terms of exchanging humans for ET's but i think that there is specally trained officers that are sent to different planets and vice versa of the ET's.

If you have watched the project camelot interview with Gary Mckinnon, the young british guy who is trying to be extradited to the US for so called "Hacking" into NASA computers. But what Gary Mckinnon found was quiet interesting, He said he found a document on one of the NASA's computers pertaining to "Non-terrestrials officers" this is probably the best verification to the "Serpo" project, I would highly recommend those who have'ent already to watch the interview with Gary McKinnon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fNsah-0vpY

tallus

Cheers for the link Profitus, I remember reading the articles on the site a while back and found it facinating.

I think someone posted a link to that site here ages back on another thread.

It's a great story regardless of the authenticity. It's a pity that there weren't more photo's from Serpo posted, but the handfull I did see were grainy and it was hard to tell if they were authentic.

studiorat

Hoax!

There's a thread on Above Top Secret from about 2006/2007 covering the thing in depth, including uncovering some Serpo proponents as Scientologists etc. By the end of a Mammoth thread it's obvious the thing is a hoax, even the author Bill Ryan admits there's false information on the Serpo site.

I believe the Serpo story is a mixture of disinformation (i.e. truth mixed with added fictional elements) and naturally occurring compounded errors (such as uncorrected audiotape transcripts of the team commander's logs) - Bill Ryan

Richard Doty from whom the original story comes from has been involved in a few dubious UFO stories, none of which ever had any hard evidence.

http://www.realityuncovered.net/ufology/articles/serpo/

Above is an article on the Serpo hoax. I suspect it was an marketing ploy for Doty to sell books!

2005 - Rick Doty, and pseudonym characters Gene and Paul, launched a story on the Internet called "Project Serpo", a tale about 12 astronauts who went on an exchange program to an alien planet. They claimed this was an alleged disclosure coming from an "anonymous" government insider. The scam was just as strange and ridiculous (and appeared to attempt to compete with) the ongoing Dan Burisch scam.

Eventually, investigators at this site uncovered and revealed the names of individuals privately and very actively involved with the people (two other men...forming what has become termed the "Team of Five") who were distributing the information to the public via an email list and a website (and at least one presentation at a Laughlin Conference). These individuals were none other than - Dr. Christopher Green and Dr. Harold Puthoff, both very good friends of Rick Doty's. RU investigators also published the fact that Rick Doty's own computer IP was identified on the header of not only the anonymous source emails, but also Paul McGovern's, and several other characters who were allegedly "insiders" communicating only via email, and refusing to meet anyone in person, or speak on the phone.

According to Bob Collins - the old group from the 1980s still exists. This group includes Hal Puthoff, Rick Doty, Kit Green, and Robert Collins, but very likely also includes Ernie Kellerstrass, Dale Graff, Scott Jones, and John Alexander. Collins writes:

"To this day many of us still stay in contact (except for Bill & Jaime) coordinating information while talking with our sources."

I recently asked Dr. Green why he and Hal have remained so involved in this subject matter (UFOs) for so many years - always in the very "thick" of scams such as MJ12, Project Aquarius, Burisch, and Project Serpo; risking getting "outed" and giving the general public the impression that they were also an integral part of the scams perpetrated and distributed by their friend Rick Doty and others. His answer was eloquent, as always:

"In hindsight, even my foray into 'The Team of FIVE' to try and see if Anonymous (The first one) was really a sitting US Government person, 'leaking' some classified data I had seen snippets of before (unrelated to UFO's, actually), to support disclosure in the guise of a fiction to protect psyches...contributed. I am both continuously ashamed I didn't see the risk, and better informed that fewer angels dance on pins than I thought. I believe in angels, too. But my stupid complicity has changed my entire way of both operating, and viewing what is happening. 'Physician...Heal Thyself'?"

http://www.realityuncovered.net/ufology/articles/kitgreen.php

profitius

studiorat wrote:

By the end of a Mammoth thread it's obvious the thing is a hoax, even the author Bill Ryan admits there's false information on the Serpo site.

I believe the Serpo story is a mixture of disinformation (i.e. truth mixed with added fictional elements) and naturally occurring compounded errors (such as uncorrected audiotape transcripts of the team commander's logs) - Bill Ryan

Bill Ryan believes that it did happen. He said that theres different information coming out about it and believes that somebody is telling the truth but someone else is putting out disinformation because people see things in black or white and if theres inconsistancies most people automatically presume its all false.

He goes on to add that the accuracy of the story isn't important. The most important thing is if something happened.

Here he's on coast to coast am

espinolman

studiorat wrote: »

including uncovering some Serpo proponents as Scientologists etc.

:eek: It must be a hoax so .