mchale fusion

farmerjohn

What hp tractor would u want to have for a fusion bailer.
have 105 hp at the moment would dis do?

Lando Griffin

You would need at least 107hp. Remember that a tractor will loose some of it power as the years go by plus you are carring 2 bales.


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reilig

Haven't seen any Fusion worked on less than 130hp - and most have been on 150hp+. 107 HP might power it, but it will be hard on it. Also, you'll need the extra HP to pull it. Its heavy and not the sort of thing that you want to get stuck with.

denis086

id say 107hp would be in very favourable conditions on level ground it would do it alright but it would be more a back up tractor if i was doing it and put it on something over 120hp definately that way she wouldnt be dropping to many revs when she came under pressure

dryan

Was chatting my contactor about that a few weeks back - he has 170 horses in front of his fusion - he wouldnt use anything less. otherwise, bales will not be packed. He makes a great bale too!

snowman707

minimum 130, for comfort 150, the man i son is mowing for is picking a 27 foot row he has a valtra about 160 hp i think

Indubitable

dryan wrote: »

Was chatting my contactor about that a few weeks back - he has 170 horses in front of his fusion - he wouldnt use anything less. otherwise, bales will not be packed. He makes a great bale too!

how do horses turn the PTO?;)

Would it not be cheaper and easier to use a tractor?

Colmm23

"he has 170 horses in front of his fusion"

Need a big field to turn that outfit!:D

dryan

left meself open there alright!! - anyways, ye know what i mean.

reilig

Colmm23 and Kingofthethirdyears the childrens creche is at the back of the forum. They have Roly Tractors and trailers and diggers in the sand pit. They cater for up to 12 years of age. You'll have a great time!!

leex

Our contractor has recently obtained a Fusion and has upgraded to a 150hp MF to pull it. Said anything lese else would not be strong enough.

Lando Griffin

Also, you have to think about the water in the bales if the summer came wet, youd be pulling 2 ton.

Irishfusion

Hi John,
Horse power will depend on you requirements/ ground conditions and tractor type.

Requirements
Bale Density
Chopped or un-chopped bales
Machine Output per hour

Ground Conditions
Flat or Hilly

Tractor
Oil system on the tractor - if the tractor has load sensing hydraulics it can surrive on 10-15 hp less as te oil will shut on and off when not in use.

Most contractors in Ireland use 130hp plus on load sensing. In other countries I have seen Fusion working on 115-120 hp tractors which have load sensing.

Output on 115 load sensing would be 40-45 bales an hour.

valtra8150

that 105hp tractor would be good enough for a f550 we have an f550 on a 140 hp and i pack the bales good and when you let the bale out of chamber you can hear the load coming off the tractor. a fusion weighs nearly 6 tonne and when you have two bales on that as well that 8 odd tonne and your nt pulling that on a road your pulling that in a field and thats nt easy. even an f550 are 3 and a half tonne

beretta686s

if u want output and comfort u need 150+ hp pref on ls hydraulics saves on hp and heating ur backend of the tractor that is

MickeyShtyles

Do you mean engine power or PTO power? :-)

valtra8150

MickeyShtyles wrote: »

Do you mean engine power or PTO power? :-)

both

goondakid

Iv been drivin them for a couple of years nw and would defo say 160-170hp is required and these can be put under pressure on hi ground wit wet conditions!

Swinefluproof

It's not only horsepower you need for a Fusion but plenty weight too. While working on hilly ground it can bully the tractor all over the place if you don't have the weight to hold it. Definately need load sensing hydraulics too or you will be losing too much HP by having the hydraulics running constantly. Safely looking at 150hp or if you are on hilly or heavy ground I'd push it over 170hp

toyotad4d

Dose anyone know what would be the widest tyres you can fit onto a fusion 2 baler Mchale say 650/50r22.5 but was wondering can a BKT 800/45 r26.5 fit onto it. Overall diameter of a 650/50 r 22.5 tyre is around 1222 mm and overall diameter of the BKT 800/45 r26.5 tyre is 1354 mm .Some contractors put on double tyres for wet years or very wet fields This baler would be used for my own use only
Thanks