Lee Harvey Oswald innocent!

Martin Timothy

Arlen Specter US Senator from Pennsylvania wrote the Warren Report, the official inquiry into President John Kennedy's death, that said Lee Harvey Oswald acting alone shot the President in Dallas Texas 22 November 1963.

Specter should be hauled before a court of capital jurisdiction, and be required to explain why he neglected the photo that shows Lee Oswald, at the door of the Texas School Book Depository, the building from where he is alleged to have fired, as the shots rang out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5cCzDbtVnM

YouTube - Discovery JFK assassination.. Lee Oswald is visible standing at the door of the TSBD at 27 seconds in this video.. and do not listen to any BS about Billy Lovelady, there was no Billy Lovelady he is a figment of the imagination of lawyers who want to confute the real issues!

This shot shows Lee Oswald still at the door of the TSBD talking to a policeman, as the tramps are marched by.. check the assassination time line that indicates that it was some hours before they were taken into custody, which sinks the assertion that he took a bus then a taxi away from the scene, and that he went to the movies after killing Dallas Police Officer JD Tippets!

Green Marker - Dealey Plaza where the President was shot at 12:30 pm, Red Marker - Texas Theater where Lee Oswald was allegedly apprehended at 1:50 pm, after allegedly having shot Officer Tippets about a block away at East 10th Street at around 1:08 pm!

Another little known fact is that Richard Nixon who succeeded Johnson as President, had been in Dallas on the morning of the shooting, he had flown out prior, looks like there was collusion from him as well.

Sebastien De Valmont

The man in the doorway is in fact a fellow employee of the Texas School Book Despository called Billy Lovelady.

Oswald was last seen on the 6th floor of the TSBD before the shooting by his fellow employees including Lovelady who went down to the street to watch the motorcade.

A man matching Oswald's description armed with a rifle was seen in the 6th floor corner window by witnesses in the street below who assumed he was a Secret Service agent.

The majoirty of witnesses to the shooting heard three shots which they believed came from the TSBD.

Oswald's rifle was discovered hidden behind boxes on the 6th floor and three spent hulls were found in firing nest made out of book crates stacked around the 6th floor corner window.

An almost whole bullet and several bullet fragments were recovered from the President's limo and John Connally's hospital trolley and were ballistically matched to Oswald's weapon.

The trajectories of the bullets based on the wounds to both Kennedy and Connally and their relative position in the Zapruder film (the most complete record of the assassinaton) indicate the bullets came from above and behind from the direction of the TSBD.

Oswald was the only TSBD employee who was missing when they were rounded up by cops for questioning.

Witnesses saw a man fitting Oswald's description murder Officer JD Tippet.

When Oswald was arrested at the Texas Teatre he was carrying the revolver used to kill Tippet and the same kind of ammo in his pockets.

CASE CLOSED.

GUILTY AS CHARGED

Torakx

Manchurian candidate...case open :P

Penn

Denzel Washington is innocent!

Torakx

Lol go hollywodd propoganda
I havent researchd this topic so much,but i do know its possible to create such a person for such an assasination so i havent ruled it out myself.
I guess i have other things on my mind at the moment so wont be looking into this much.
Just a thought though.Since it wouldbe hard to show he was if its done properly.Although if he didnt commit suicide soon ish after it kind of goes against what i said in most cases.Ussually there would be a self destruct command after the job is done.

Di0genes

Torakx wrote: »

Manchurian candidate...case open :P

It's a film ted.

Lol go hollywodd propoganda
I havent researchd this topic so much,but i do know its possible to create such a person for such an assasination so i havent ruled it out myself.

How do you know it's possible?

Torakx

With alot of research.I wont go into it with you yet as i am awaiting your reply on kick ass thread which will decide if i can see your posts anymore lol

Di0genes

Torakx wrote: »

With alot of research.

Oh do go on. Please.

I wont go into it with you yet as i am awaiting your reply on kick ass thread which will decide if i can see your posts anymore lol

"lol"? :rolleyes::rolleyes::eek::D;):p:eek::P And I'm the immature one.

caseyann

It just seemed to easy for such a simple man to commit such a amazing well thought out plan alone,imo.
And then for the lack in security for such a high profile assassin walking him out into crowds like that,knowing how well loved JFK was,and what the possibilities of revenge was from non other then some other meaningless man to take out the other meaningless man.
Always smelled a rat with this one.
Why also was all the documents sealed saying they would realise the information after all the people involved had died?
Has that time come up yet or how much longer is it?

Di0genes

caseyann wrote: »

It just seemed to easy for such a simple man to commit such a amazing well thought out plan alone,imo.

It wasn't an amazingly well thought out plan. Oswald had means motive and opportunity.

And then for the lack in security for such a high profile assassin walking him out into crowds

Walking him out? Whut?

like that,knowing how well loved JFK was,and what the possibilities of revenge was from non other then some other meaningless man to take out the other meaningless man.

Welcome to the concept of history. It doesn't work like movies.

caseyann

Di0genes wrote: »

It wasn't an amazingly well thought out plan. Oswald had means motive and opportunity.



Walking him out? Whut?



Welcome to the concept of history. It doesn't work like movies.

He knew the perfect spot and planned it out to the second he would shoot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xU7Lhd7Wwo
Walked him out to his death.

Last comment not even replying to.

Di0genes

caseyann wrote: »

He knew the perfect spot and planned it out to the second he would shoot.

Because he was a marine trained marksman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xU7Lhd7Wwo
Walked him out to his death.

Your point is?

Last comment not even replying to.

RUN AWAY! RUN AWAY!

caseyann

Di0genes wrote: »

Because he was a marine trained marksman.



Your point is?





RUN AWAY! RUN AWAY!

By whom was he trained? And what was his made up motive they gave?

Do you walk out a man who just shot the president who was loved by most into a crowd of press and not secured area,when likely hood someone is going to try something exactly like what did happen?
I dont think they were that dumb.

Di0genes

caseyann wrote: »

By whom was he trained?

The united states marine corps. He was certified to the grade of marksman.

And what was his made up motive they gave?

A lil thing called the bay of pigs.

Do you walk out a man who just shot the president who was loved by most into a crowd of press and not secured area,when likely hood someone is going to try something exactly like what did happen?
I dont think they were that dumb.

Yeah they were. Press and curious onlookers walked in and out of Dallas Police HQ. You're using hindsight as prescient.

bog master

Oswald was last seen on the 6th floor of the TSBD before the shooting by his fellow employees including Lovelady who went down to the street to watch the motorcade.

Different witness accounts here, tho not all of them were called to testify
to the Warren Commission. Carolyn Arnold places Oswald on 2nd floor at 12:15, Billy Piper and Julia Mercer also placed him downstairs of the 6th Floor. Givens originally had him downstairs but his testimony has changed several times.

A man matching Oswald's description armed with a rifle was seen in the 6th floor corner window by witnesses in the street below who assumed he was a Secret Service agent.

Again, multiple witness accounts differ. Both Amos Eunins and Arnold Rowland testified they saw two different men at different windows on the sixth floor prior to the shooting with somewhat varying descriptions including Eunins that the man had a large bald spot

The majoirty of witnesses to the shooting heard three shots which they believed came from the TSBD.

From WC, it identified 270 witnesses to the shooting with a breakdown as follows:

52-Knoll
48-Depository
05-Knoll and Depository
04-Elsewhere
37-Could not tell
70-Never asked

Oswald's rifle was discovered hidden behind boxes on the 6th floor and three spent hulls were found in firing nest made out of book crates stacked around the 6th floor corner window.

Disputed reports on type of rifle found and exact time, and a claim
that the snipers nest and hulls on the floor was recreated for later photographs.

An almost whole bullet and several bullet fragments were recovered from the President's limo and John Connally's hospital trolley and were ballistically matched to Oswald's weapon.

Two bullet fragments found in front of limo, and CE-399, the famous
magic bullet was found on a hospital trolley, debate still swirls around whether is was the trolley Connolly was originally treated on.

The trajectories of the bullets based on the wounds to both Kennedy and Connally and their relative position in the Zapruder film (the most complete record of the assassinaton) indicate the bullets came from above and behind from the direction of the TSBD.

Huge debate here, even to the extent of the validity of the Zapruder film
and whether it can be used accurately to determine trajectories or the
shooting timespan. I must admit, have not followed this controversey of late.

Oswald was the only TSBD employee who was missing when they were rounded up by cops for questioning.

I believe there was another, but was quickly accounted for.

Witnesses saw a man fitting Oswald's description murder Officer JD Tippet.

Again, different witness accounts to description, type of pistol used, ie revolver or automatic, even the time of shooting cannot be determined. Bullets from the body were too mangled to be linked to any particular weapon and some of the cartridge casings were of different manufacturer to bullets recovered.

CASE CLOSED.

Case has to many contradictions in my opinion.

caseyann

Di0genes wrote: »

The united states marine corps. He was certified to the grade of marksman.



A lil thing called the bay of pigs.



Yeah they were. Press and curious onlookers walked in and out of Dallas Police HQ. You're using hindsight as prescient.

In reply to his expert marksmanship read and enjoy


http://www.kenrahn.com/jfk/the_critics/griffith/Oswald_poor_shot.html

bog master

caseyann wrote: »

In reply to his expert marksmanship read and enjoy


http://www.kenrahn.com/jfk/the_critics/griffith/Oswald_poor_shot.html

And furthermore:

http://jfkassassination.net/russ/jfkinfo3/exhibits/anderson1.htm

mr j tayto

My head hurts, but not as bad as the presidents.:P

caseyann

bog master wrote: »

And furthermore:

http://jfkassassination.net/russ/jfkinfo3/exhibits/anderson1.htm

A convenient mistake?

BornToRun88

Sebastien De Valmont wrote: »

Oswald was last seen on the 6th floor of the TSBD before the shooting by his fellow employees including Lovelady who went down to the street to watch the motorcade.

Oswald was actually seen at 12.32 in another part of the TSBD which could not taken two minutes to get to from his alleged
sniper position and those who saw him at 12.32 said he was calm and didn't look like he had run to get to where he was.

Sebastien De Valmont wrote: »

A man matching Oswald's description armed with a rifle was seen in the 6th floor corner window by witnesses in the street below who assumed he was a Secret Service agent.

One witness was able to tell Oswald's alleged placing in a high position on the sixth floor from the witness' position low down on the street...sound bogey or what?

Sebastien De Valmont wrote: »

The majoirty of witnesses to the shooting heard three shots which they believed came from the TSBD..

A very narrow majority. Those who believed they came from the grassy knoll were either ignored or intimidated by the FBI.

Sebastien De Valmont wrote: »

An almost whole bullet and several bullet fragments were recovered from the President's limo and John Connally's hospital trolley and were ballistically matched to Oswald's weapon...

The bullet on Connally's trolley was placed there. And isn't suspicious that Connally's jacket wasn't properly combed for evidence?

Sebastien De Valmont wrote: »

The trajectories of the bullets based on the wounds to both Kennedy and Connally and their relative position in the Zapruder film (the most complete record of the assassinaton) indicate the bullets came from above and behind from the direction of the TSBD.

The magic bullet theory has been dispelled by many gun experts. A bullet going through two bodies and ended up unscratched is impossible.

Sebastien De Valmont wrote: »

Oswald was the only TSBD employee who was missing when they were rounded up by cops for questioning..

That's wrong, they were several missing.

Sebastien De Valmont wrote: »

Witnesses saw a man fitting Oswald's description murder Officer JD Tippet...

Witnesses say they saw at least two people kill JD Tippit. One of them may or may not have been Oswald. Also the timing of Oswald leaving his house to the death of Tippit does not fit. 13.00 is the time Oswald left his house. Tippit died a mile away at around 13.10. Oswald could not have killed Tippit in such a timeline. He didn't get a lift and there was no public transport between the locations of the Oswald's house and the scene of Tippit's death.

Sebastien De Valmont wrote: »

When Oswald was arrested at the Texas Teatre he was carrying the revolver used to kill Tippet and the same kind of ammo in his pockets.

Oswald was framed.

Sebastien De Valmont wrote: »

CASE CLOSED.

GUILTY AS CHARGED

Far from it. A load of questions unanswered.

Sources: The Day The Dream Died, Channel 4 Dispatches documentary 1988

The Kennedy Conspiracy, Anthony Summers, 1991