Exactly how many taxes do we have in Ireland?

Ali Babba

Reading about yet another tax being forced upon us in the form of the property tax got me thinking exactly how many taxes do we have? Only yesterday I was shocked to find how many taxes in the form of road tolls I had to pay on a trip from Cork to Monaghan and back!! It's really starting to sink in how everyones being ripped off to pay for NAMA and the like......

1. Carbon tax.
2. Tax on wages.
3. Toll roads.
4. VAT.(on almost everything including funerals coming soon!)
5. Road tax.
6. Parking (now plus vat)
7. PRSI (if you're self-employed you can't claim dole!!)
8. VRT
9. Rates(if you have a business)
10. Water rates.
11. Stamp duty.
It just goes on and on, and considering the wage cuts we're having to take it's really just not fair, feel free to add any other taxes you can think of.

starbelgrade

Life is very taxing.

Ali Babba

starbelgrade wrote: »

Life is very taxing.

Well it is now in Ireland anyway...........

Pauleta

Inheritance Tax. Possibly the most disgraceful of them all.

starbelgrade

Pauleta wrote: »

Inheritance Tax. Possibly the most disgraceful of them all.

Depends how much you inherit.

DB10

Too many.......

redout

Talk of a property tax in the Dail this afternoon.

Guarantee that will be brought in within the lifetime of the current government.

recylingbin

Pauleta wrote: »

Inheritance Tax. Possibly the most disgraceful of them all.

You think inheritance tax is worse than taxing air and, the soon to be introduced, water tax?

Ali Babba

starbelgrade wrote: »

Depends how much you inherit.

But that's just the thing about Ireland really, if your parents worked hard and leave you something when they die you get taxed on what they've left you even though they already paid their taxes on their wages to buy whatever they owned when they were alive. The problem with Ireland is that if you work hard and try to do anything you get screwed for trying to better yourself whereas if you sit back and do nothing you seem to get housed, paid, looked after medically and generally treated like royalty from where I see it.

redout

Taxed on savings in the bank.

DIRT

questionmark?

Ali Babba wrote: »

Reading about yet another tax being forced upon us in the form of the property tax got me thinking exactly how many taxes do we have? Only yesterday I was shocked to find how many taxes in the form of road tolls I had to pay on a trip from Cork to Monaghan and back!! It's really starting to sink in how everyones being ripped off to pay for NAMA and the like......

1. Carbon tax.
2. Tax on wages.
3. Toll roads.
4. VAT.(on almost everything including funerals coming soon!)
5. Road tax.
6. Parking (now plus vat)
7. PRSI (if you're self-employed you can't claim dole!!)
8. VRT
9. Rates(if you have a business)
10. Water rates.
11. Stamp duty.
It just goes on and on, and considering the wage cuts we're having to take it's really just not fair, feel free to add any other taxes you can think of.

Add high levels of duties on cigarettes, alcohol, petrol, diesel.

Tax on second homes.

Income levy.

10€ emigration tax

Ali Babba

We really must be one of the most highly taxed countries in the EU.

gulf

starbelgrade wrote: »

Depends how much you inherit.

Not if you're a "farmer"!

Pittens

Inheritance Tax. Possibly the most disgraceful of them all.

Actually the least disgraceful.

recylingbin

gulf wrote: »

Not if you're a "farmer"!

If you're a clever farmer, you'll inherit nothing. It'll have been given to you long before and you'll be paid 16000, or something like it, to take it .

DonkeyStyle \o/

Do they still have that stupid tax on using your ATM card?

questionmark?

DonkeyStyle \o/ wrote: »

Do they still have that stupid tax on using your ATM card?

Yes

which reminds me there is a tax on credit cards as well and also a tax on every cheque that you use as well.

Ali Babba

DonkeyStyle \o/ wrote: »

Do they still have that stupid tax on using your ATM card?

Of course they do and on cheque books too, taxes don't go away you know............

markok84

don't forget the tax on puffy directing pants.

DonkeyStyle \o/

Ali Babba wrote: »

taxes don't go away you know............

What about window tax?
Actually, better to not give them any more ideas eh? :pac:

markok84

DonkeyStyle \o/ wrote: »

What about window tax?...

little nugget of useless information: that's where the phrase "daylight robbery" came from.... true story.

ejmaztec

Income Tax was introduced to pay for the Napoleonic War, and I presume that it was introduced in Ireland at the same time. I think we should tell Lenihan that Napolean's dead.

Capt'n Midnight

don't forget the old VAT / VRT where you were actually paying a tax on another tax

lots of stealth taxes - stuff that used to be cheaper / free / paid for in more obvious ways
- ER charges
- reduction in dental / medical benefits
- bin charges
- airport taxes
- toll roads, esp. on bridges paid for with public money
- clamping
- credit card / laser card tax ( kill off the e-economy why not )
- water charges
- FOI charges
- VAT changes (when the rate dropped to 20% prices didn't but when they went to 21% ...)
- VHI etc.
- lots of stuff that used to be free but charges creeping in bit by bit

don't forget the new parking tax if it arrives

markok84

Out of interest. Does anyone know if the money accrued from the Carbon tax is actually going towards R&D in sustainable development or some such thing, or is it being pumped into the banks?

CiaranC

Ali Babba wrote: »

We really must be one of the most highly taxed countries in the EU.

no

ArseBurger

Ireland doesn't have enough taxes in my opinion.

Ali Babba

ArseBurger wrote: »

Ireland doesn't have enough taxes in my opinion.

Really Brian? What other taxes do you think we should have?

Elevator

redout wrote: »

Taxed on savings in the bank.

DIRT

this one really gets my goat!! I mean in fairness, a dirty tax called dirt tax ffs

Kxiii

And that 22c* tax on plastic bags.

*Subject to change at any time.

Come to think about it how come we are taxed multple times when buying petrol?

Duty, vat, carbon tax and if you pay by a card tax on that.

Ali Babba

It's no wonder we're broke and it's only getting worse.

Zebra3

Ali Babba wrote: »

But that's just the thing about Ireland really, if your parents worked hard and leave you something when they die you get taxed on what they've left you even though they already paid their taxes on their wages to buy whatever they owned when they were alive. The problem with Ireland is that if you work hard and try to do anything you get screwed for trying to better yourself whereas if you sit back and do nothing you seem to get housed, paid, looked after medically and generally treated like royalty from where I see it.

Your two points are not related.

ArseBurger

Ali Babba wrote: »

Really Brian? What other taxes do you think we should have?

Well, for a start:

Property taxes index linked and amortised over a ten year period based upon the purchase price of the property in conjunction with stamp duty.

The above property tax with a linear factor applied for additional properties owned.

No write off for income on rental properties.

A higher band rate for income from rental properties.

A higher band rate for non salaried PAYE income.

Abolition of the standard rate cut off point. All income should be taxed.

A substantial increase in duty on luxury items such as alcohol and cigarettes.

Banded VAT rates on utilities to take account of usage.

Abolition of VAT exemptions.

PAYE applied to all social welfare benefits.

0% corporation tax.

That'll do for a start.

mink_man

to be exact.....






























it's 180! du du du du ....

Jev/N

Let the bears pay the bear tax, I pay the Homer tax. :pac:

Ali Babba

Ali Babba wrote: »

But that's just the thing about Ireland really, if your parents worked hard and leave you something when they die you get taxed on what they've left you even though they already paid their taxes on their wages to buy whatever they owned when they were alive. The problem with Ireland is that if you work hard and try to do anything you get screwed for trying to better yourself whereas if you sit back and do nothing you seem to get housed, paid, looked after medically and generally treated like royalty from where I see it.

Inheritance tax isn't even close to being unique to ireland.
The rest of your post seems to be random waffle.

Ali Babba wrote: »

We really must be one of the most highly taxed countries in the EU.

Not even remotely.

NoHornJan

P ay A ll Y ou E earn

damoz

FYI OP there is no such thing as road tax. We pay motor tax in this country - and it has no direct ties to money spent on maintaining the road network but goes into the hopper which feeds all expenditure.

Ali Babba

bluewolf wrote: »

Not even remotely.

So you're happy enough to pay the majority of your wages to the tax man are you? In fact it surprises me really that so many people are happy to pay high taxes and to demand more of them beggars belief!

Ali Babba

Ali Babba wrote: »

So you're happy enough to pay the majority of your wages to the tax man are you? In fact it surprises me really that so many people are happy to pay high taxes and to demand more of them beggars belief!

How exactly do you go from me disagreeing that we're not the highest taxed, to blathering about me being happy and demanding more taxes?

We're not the highest taxed. That's not a statement of approval or disapproval, it's a simple fact.
And since I don't pay 50% or more (not close) of my wages in taxes, I'm not paying the majority of my wages in taxes.

m5ex9oqjawdg2i

Ali Babba wrote: »

But that's just the thing about Ireland really, if your parents worked hard and leave you something when they die you get taxed on what they've left you even though they already paid their taxes on their wages to buy whatever they owned when they were alive. The problem with Ireland is that if you work hard and try to do anything you get screwed for trying to better yourself whereas if you sit back and do nothing you seem to get housed, paid, looked after medically and generally treated like royalty from where I see it.

Quit your job if it's so great...

Ali Babba wrote: »

We really must be one of the most highly taxed countries in the EU.

Lol


I stopped reading after this, sorry.

NoHornJan

2 Certainties!

Death and Taxes.

We won't escape either.

Banned Account

The deregulation of taxes is one of the main problems. This led to there being more taxes than customers who wished to avail of them - now there are constant stikes.

questionmark?

ArseBurger wrote: »

Property taxes index linked and amortised over a ten year period based upon the purchase price of the property in conjunction with stamp duty.

No quite simply no. Regardless of wheter we should or shouldnt have a property tax at this moment in time it is not affordable and it could push many over the edge and take vital money out of the economy totally defeating the purpose of a tax.

ArseBurger wrote: »

The above property tax with a linear factor applied for additional properties owned.

I agree with the second home tax, if you can afford two houses then yes you should be taxed. Maybe 600€ would be a good little earner for local authorities on all second homes.

ArseBurger wrote: »

No write off for income on rental properties.

Not as simple as that we still need rental houses how would this effect the market? Maybe lowering the write off limit could be an option???

ArseBurger wrote: »

A higher band rate for income from rental properties.

Would this not drive up rental prices? Because they are way to high at the moment.

ArseBurger wrote: »

A higher band rate for non salaried PAYE income.

No.

ArseBurger wrote: »

Abolition of the standard rate cut off point. All income should be taxed.

Now that ****e is crazy talk.

ArseBurger wrote: »

A substantial increase in duty on luxury items such as alcohol and cigarettes.

Something along the lines of one in five packs of cigarettes in this country dont have duty payed on them. Raise the prices and even more people will resort to buying illigally sourced cigarettes.

You would have noticed in the last budget duties were decreased due to the high number of people heading north for cheaper drink. So you want to send people back over the border again?

ArseBurger wrote: »

Banded VAT rates on utilities to take account of usage.

What are you saying. We already pay Vat at a reduced rate on utilities.

ArseBurger wrote: »

Abolition of VAT exemptions.

Examples please

ArseBurger wrote: »

PAYE applied to all social welfare benefits.

I'm not even going to start.

ArseBurger wrote: »

0% corporation tax.

:rolleyes: WTF

Chiorino

When I hear us being classed as a "low tax" economy, I assume this refers to income tax rates and not on the plethora of ever increasing stealth taxes. I personally would prefer to pay higher income tax and get rid of all these extras, at least I'd know how much cash I had to play with once I'd been paid. I'm up for correction but aren't most of the scandanavian countries operated somewhere along these lines?

conorhal

Capt'n Midnight wrote: »

don't forget the old VAT / VRT where you were actually paying a tax on another tax

lots of stealth taxes - stuff that used to be cheaper / free / paid for in more obvious ways
- ER charges
- reduction in dental / medical benefits
- bin charges
- airport taxes
- toll roads, esp. on bridges paid for with public money
- clamping
- credit card / laser card tax ( kill off the e-economy why not )
- water charges
- FOI charges
- VAT changes (when the rate dropped to 20% prices didn't but when they went to 21% ...)
- VHI etc.
- lots of stuff that used to be free but charges creeping in bit by bit

don't forget the new parking tax if it arrives

I think it's frankly easier to ask the question "what don't I pay for?"

When you balance what you pay out as a single, non property owning, middle income PAYE worker, against what you get back in services your head nearly explodes with anger.
It's no surprise that every able bodied person not buried in negative equity is leaving the country.
Personally, I have nothing against a reasonable level of taxation, I'd be happy to move to Holland and pay tax there, where they've never heard of a pot hole, if you get cancer you go immediately into a hospital and there are generous benefits and efficient public services.
Here you pay through the nose just so that builders and bankers get kept in cigars and fine wines.

Cuddlesworth

Fitzcaraldo wrote: »

The deregulation of taxes is one of the main problems. This led to there being more taxes than customers who wished to avail of them - now there are constant stikes.

I'm torn between genius post or pure spelling ignorance.

Banned Account

Cuddlesworth wrote: »

I'm torn between genius post or pure spelling ignorance.

Well, I can spell, if that helps;)

Wibbs

I have no issue with most taxes. I do have an issue with how the muppets here apportion the tax revenue. Píssupin a brewery springs to mind. If we went to 50% tax on every euro, we'd still have a crap medical service among other things.

Mike 1972

Pauleta wrote: »

Inheritance Tax. Possibly the most disgraceful of them all.

Because theres nothing wrong with a sense of entitlement to an unearned windfall :rolleyes:

Mike 1972

Nobody has mentioned ATM/Debit/Credit card taxes.

Or departure tax -(Yes youre even taxed if you try leaving the stinking country)

Mind you I wouldnt have a problem with a credit card tax if it was based on borrowings (one of the causes of the current mess) rather than mere possession of a card (Would certainly make more sense than DIRT)

Ali Babba wrote: »

2. Tax on wages.

There are actually two (three is you count PRSI)
PAYE (which is largely fair enough although those on average incomes shouldnt be on the top rate)
Levies (Totally regressive and idiotic)

questionmark?

questionmark? wrote: »

"is there a tax on atm cards" - Yes

which reminds me there is a tax on credit cards as well and also a tax on every cheque that you use as well.

Mike 1972 wrote: »

Nobody has mentioned ATM/Debit/Credit card taxes.