Review of a LED torch used for foxing.

clivej

OK I have had these torches out a couple of times now and a few of you have asked where I got them from and how good are they.

First off don't compare these to the Lightforce 170 lamps. The 170 LF will outshine and throw a longer beam than these ever can. And I have used the 170 LF and still have the handheld version with dimmer.
But I found that when I used the scope mounted version when I got it off the back seat of the car the lamp head had always turned and I had to twist it back before any shot could be taken a big let down from the 170 LF for me. And of course you always had the battery to carry as well.


Now these LED torches give a long narrow throw of a beam and you will see the reflection from the foxes eyes @200m+ IMO. You will not make out the outline of the fox at 200m but you will easily see that fox in your scope @150m+ and place the shot. At 100m+ you will see the fox walking about, see it's colour, body, tail, everything.

I have left one on for over 2 + half hours and you will get a lot more time from it as you won't have it on all the time, and of course you can put a couple of spare batteries in your pocket (careful not to let them short out). The batteries used are 4 x CR123A or 2 x TR18650 3.7volt. Input voltage is 7.4v-17v and is regulated. The output is stated @220lumens and has is a CREE P4 LED.
It has a clicky/pushy on/off on the end and you must push it all the way to turn on/off.

I have two and use one for scaning the fields and the other is fixed to my scope with 2 cheap back to back scope mounts as shown.




Put a chamfer on both sides of the 12mm bar not just one side as shown here.





The Torch = http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.3356



TrustFire Protected 18650 3.7V True 2400mAh Rechargeable Lithium Batteries (2-Pack) = http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.20392
Get yourself a couple of packs.


Soshine AC/Car Lithium Battery Charger for 18650 = http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.31897

ivanthehunter

Yep i have one and it like you say!!

Great bit of kit and a winner on the weight factor. Pure delight to carry. Great thrower. Spare parts currently available.

The beam is so narrow that the unit needed to be securely fixed to the firearm.

Can see distinct colours out at good distances

Best value torch out there...

Its one of the best buys i have made in a long time!:D

foxer 204

does anyone use the cluson led master light ,i think its called
its scope mounted aswell about £200 from cluson site

wish night vision was legal in ireland

ivanthehunter

foxer 204 wrote: »

does anyone use the cluson led master light ,i think its called
its scope mounted aswell about £200 from cluson site

wish night vision was legal in ireland

It is legal once you have it declared in section 3.2 of the firearms form, and of course you're successful in you application..

Anyway the lamp clivej is reviewing only cost $37 so prob e30... and its a hell of a light for 30euros... the hidden extra cost come with batteries. I buy CR123's of ebay at a Dollar a pop and only buy 20 at a time so as to avoid having to pay taxes that are sometimes occurred on higher valued parcels.
I have seen the same here for sale at 6-7euros each...in chemists etc

For about 7-8 euro you can buy a charger and batteries to suit..

Its light-weight its cheap and it works well!

clivej

Thanks Ivan for the support, about time you and me got out shooting.

I paid €93 for the 2 Torches as shown and 3 batery packs (6 batteries) the charger and I also got a smaller torch that takes an AA battery thats good out to 100m+ for the 22lr.


Good little torch @$23
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.22934

ivanthehunter

Well i dont mind... thats a plan... Have a few bits to show anyway..

Justashotgun

Great post, very useful info here. Thanks

kfod

clivej do you have the smaller torch in your last post? how does it compare say to a decent lamping lamp, like a clulite? I have a few dealextreme led lights and find them very good, but nowhere near the throw of a clulite or even a cheapo 1 million candle power jobby (I know these are a lot bigger tho)

cheers

poulo6.5

great work there clive.

i recently bought a ledlenser P7 with scope mount and additional remote switch that you can stick to your stock where your thumb will be so you can switch it on without moving your hands.
i used it last night and got a couple of bunnys and a fox with it.
very handy if you are by your self.
give me a buz the next time you want to go out lamping clive and we can compare the two torches. this time leave the rain behind.:p
i dont think i ever got a wet as the last time you came down:D

johngalway

How far were the shots Poulo?

poulo6.5

johngalway wrote: »

How far were the shots Poulo?

hi john i shot that lad at around 95 meters. i could clearly make out color shape and smaller details like eyes etc.

Anto...

Clivej few questions if you dont mind thanks, did you buy these torches from dealextreme?? are they ok to deal with, how long does it take for them to ship/post the torches? where are they based? and is it possible to get filters for the first led torch you have posted up- the CREE XR- E
the info on these torches is great lads, they sound very good for people who shoot by themselves occasionally without a lamp-man!
thanks for the reviews

meathstevie

Invested in a little Lenser job myself the other week, brilliant bit of stuff.

crackcrack30

Howmuch and where for P7??
Thinking of getting myself a surprise/unexpected present of one in the post.........

jap gt

crackcrack30 wrote: »

Howmuch and where for P7??
Thinking of getting myself a surprise/unexpected present of one in the post.........

http://www.torchdirect.co.uk/professional-torches/led-lenser-p7-inc-gun-mount-pressure-switch.html
this is the cheapest that i have found, 73 euro for everything including a free torch

although tac seems to have got the best deal of all at 34, where ever he got it

poulo6.5

crackcrack30 wrote: »

Howmuch and where for P7??
Thinking of getting myself a surprise/unexpected present of one in the post.........

i payed €85 for the P7 with all the extra bits in the box even a set of batteries. you wont be disappointed..

i would like to compare it to the torch that clive has side by side is the only way to find out

Savage93

great review, def seems the way to go, no more lugging batteries around, no more wires everywhere, good job

dos29

Found P7's going for €55 including shipping here- http://www.batterycity.ie/led_lenser_p7__p_series__advanced_focus-p-4216.html?cPath=241_498&osCsid=e974f235516246449505bc9229e74aa5
Still not as cheap as Tac though....:rolleyes:

clivej

kfod wrote: »

clivej do you have the smaller torch in your last post? how does it compare say to a decent lamping lamp, like a clulite? cheers

Yes and its good for the 22lr out to 120y. BUT its an odd diameter so didn't fix it to the scope yet.

Anto... wrote: »

Clivej few questions if you dont mind thanks, did you buy these torches from dealextreme?? are they ok to deal with, how long does it take for them to ship/post the torches? where are they based? and is it possible to for the first led torch you have posted up- the CREE XR- E
the info on these torches is great lads, they sound very good for people who shoot by themselves occasionally without a lamp-man!
thanks for the reviews

• did you buy these torches from dealextreme = YES
• are they ok to deal with = Like any Internet company but i hear they don't answer e-mails very well
• how long does it take for them to ship = Ages about 2 months. but it all came in the end
• where are they based = China i think
• get filters = not that i know of

I must say they are a good lump of a torch BUT will never beat the LightForce lamps


And they sell wind meters @$36 inc post

Tackleberrywho

jap gt wrote: »

http://www.torchdirect.co.uk/professional-torches/led-lenser-p7-inc-gun-mount-pressure-switch.html
this is the cheapest that i have found, 73 euro for everything including a free torch

although tac seems to have got the best deal of all at 34, where ever he got it

I'll buy all I can get in the shop tomorrow, when they are all gone I'll tell everyone lol

Seriously, it is only the Torch I bought.
I do not have a scope mount, or a remote switch.

I'm not sure how good it would be on my 56mm scope as all the guys who have used them so far on rifles were 50mm or less.

I have to laugh, I actually bought it as a christmas prezzie, the recepiant might get a selection box now :D:D

jap gt

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

I'll buy all I can get in the shop tomorrow, when they are all gone I'll tell everyone lol

Seriously, it is only the Torch I bought.
I do not have a scope mount, or a remote switch.

I'm not sure how good it would be on my 56mm scope as all the guys who have used them so far on rifles were 50mm or less.

I have to laugh, I actually bought it as a christmas prezzie, the recepiant might get a selection box now :D:D

where you get it

Tackleberrywho

jap gt wrote: »

where you get it

I'll tell ya tomorrow

poulo6.5

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

I'll buy all I can get in the shop tomorrow, when they are all gone I'll tell everyone lol

Seriously, it is only the Torch I bought.
I do not have a scope mount, or a remote switch.

I'm not sure how good it would be on my 56mm scope as all the guys who have used them so far on rifles were 50mm or less.

I have to laugh, I actually bought it as a christmas prezzie, the recepiant might get a selection box now :D:D

The scope that I have in the pic is a 56 bell so there you go.

Tackleberrywho

poulo6.5 wrote: »

The scope that I have in the pic is a 56 bell so there you go.

http://www.switchcraft.ie/cart.asp?qid=

I just bought another, it was a shade dear, but it comes with the scope mount delivered for €74

I'll use my Lightforce for scanning ant the led Lenser for shooting.

It should make things more manageable for my Solo Lamping

Foxes beware!

meathstevie

crackcrack30 wrote: »

Howmuch and where for P7??
Thinking of getting myself a surprise/unexpected present of one in the post.........

I've an m7r, rechargeable with USB plug+mains adapter and magnetic fitting for torch. Came to around €100, use it for work as well though.

Invincible

I got an email from these http://www.brightlites.co.uk/content/search.asp ,offering 10% discount when you use XMAS2010 discount code valid until 31/1/2011 .

yog1

meathstevie wrote: »

I've an m7r, rechargeable with USB plug+mains adapter and magnetic fitting for torch. Came to around €100, use it for work as well though.

was in the local wholesale shop there, and the lenser sales rep was in at the same time, had a look at the m7r, nice bit of kit, what i like about it is you can lock the head of the torch so when you set the spread of the beam it can be lock'd, something that can't be done with the p7,
he also tells me that after christmas there should be mounting kit available for the m7r as well, how soon after christmas i dont know,

clivej

I was looking at the P7 today and the torch I have reviewed here is IMO
JUST AS GOOD
if not better with a tighter long throw beam and little spread.

Glensman

So where do we buy the P7?

jap gt

Glensman wrote: »

So where do we buy the P7?

http://www.torchdirect.co.uk/professional-torches/led-lenser-p7-inc-gun-mount-pressure-switch.html

thats the cheapest i have found at 73 euro including postage, and a free led torch aswell

meathstevie

yog1 wrote: »

was in the local wholesale shop there, and the lenser sales rep was in at the same time, had a look at the m7r, nice bit of kit, what i like about it is you can lock the head of the torch so when you set the spread of the beam it can be lock'd, something that can't be done with the p7,
he also tells me that after christmas there should be mounting kit available for the m7r as well, how soon after christmas i dont know,

Drop me a pm when that happens please.

mayfly36

Invincible wrote: »

I got an email from these http://www.brightlites.co.uk/content/search.asp ,offering 10% discount when you use XMAS2010 discount code valid until 31/1/2011 .

Just got 1 from here using the code, works 100%, thanks for the info, will go on the .17 i think and give it a run to see how it performs.

Invincible

mayfly36 wrote: »

Just got 1 from here using the code, works 100%, thanks for the info, will go on the .17 i think and give it a run to see how it performs.

Did they send you a free torch as well?
Happy hunting with it!

mayfly36

only ordered it yesterday, but the invoice in the email has the free torch on it, so they better.:)

minktrapper

Can anybody tell me if there are any filters available for LenserP7

Tackleberrywho

minktrapper wrote: »

Can anybody tell me if there are any filters available for LenserP7

Look if you really want use a permanent marker.

However, You will completely destroy the usefulness of the light IMvHO

Unless you are using a Zeiss Divari 6-24x72 I would stay with the white light

A P7 IS NOT a Lightforce, where a lightforce can use a filter, a less powerful lamp will struggle with one

I have both a Lightforce and a P7 and have used both extensively at night for various jobs.

The usefulness of a P7 is it is small

.243

minktrapper wrote: »

Can anybody tell me if there are any filters available for LenserP7

yes but they are intergrated with the pouch