Can anyone advise in a non moralistic way?

LegacyUser

hi , i find myself in the awful position of not being able to feed my kids and I am seriously considering selling my body for sex , apart from the obvious safety issues , does any one here know anything about escorting or could anyone give some non moralistic advise on what I can do to minimise danger for myself .

LegacyUser

sorry, can you not apply for some social welfare?

is it just to feed your kids?

i cant imagine this kind of story happen in ireland. are you entitled to get the social welfare?

and are you aware that you are breaking the law as well (please correct me if i am wrong here)? (i am not saying not to break the law, but you should know all the consequence of your choice).

Victor

There is a Women’s Health Project in Baggot Street Hospital. I think there is an associated men's clinic also.

http://www.hse.ie/eng/services/Find_a_Service/Sexualhealth/Women%27s_Health_Project/

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Are you sure that you are availing of all the benefits / tax credits you are entitled to? Are there family members or friends that can help out. Can you rent out a room?

If the problems are related to debt, have you spoken to www.mabs.ie or if its an addiction problem, a relevant organisation?

smiles302

Have you looked at all your other options first? Welfare, child allowance etc. I don't know much about them but they do seem to at least be enough to live on?

Otherwise put an ad in shop windows to babysit or do some housework, you might get lucky and get some odd work here and there.

There is always St. Vincent De Paul, I've heard they give out bags of basic shopping to people who need it.

If you really feel like it is your only option, just remember there isn't a safe way to do it as it is illegal. You could end up messed up with the wrong kind of people and put yourself and your kids in danger. But saying that I don't really know anything about it... Best of luck with your situation any way.

Victor

canunot wrote: »

and are you aware that you are breaking the law as well (please correct me if i am wrong here)? (i am not saying not to break the law, but you should know all the consequence of your choice).

Simple prostitution - taking money for sex - is legal. A lot of the surrounding activities, pimping, soliciting, etc. are not.

stoneybroke

stoneybroke wrote: »

hi , i find myself in the awful position of not being able to feed my kids and I am seriously considering selling my body for sex , apart from the obvious safety issues , does any one here know anything about escorting or could anyone give some non moralistic advise on what I can do to minimise danger for myself .

I cannot give any particularly helpful advice, but if you truly have no options left then it is your choice, nobody else's.

axel rose

I really can't see a local pimp 'allowing' you to solicit your services and not take a cut. What type of prostitution are you thinking of? Do you plan on putting an ad in a paper? Working the street? Massage parlour?

LegacyUser

i was thinking of placing an advert on one of those sites , i plan to work alone , and choose my own clients

Victor

stoneybroke wrote: »

choose my own clients

I realise you are just being brief, but I don't think it really works this way.

Where would you do this? When? Who would look after the children?

Esoteric_

I know somebody who used to be a prostitute who used sites like escortireland and such.

She always chose her own clients.

While I think that you definitely need to have a more thorough look into what you're entitled to, because the government isn't going to leave you unable to feed your kids.

With regards to the prostitution side of things, use a site or join an agency. If you're using a site, it might be good if you were to "hire" a strong male friend to drive you to and from the "meetings" and to wait for you for a cut of the money. You're never guaranteed full safety with these things, but that's at least a small bit of safety for you.

axel rose

I agree with victor. Noone can just walk into a job without training or basic knoweledge and be successful. A basic error could leave you beaten, raped or killed. What would happen to your kids then?

Noone in this country has it so bad that they are unable to put food in the table. (Barring addictions and abuse). If social welfare and debt are making things difficult then speak to the CWO for a one off payment or the VdeP.

Miss Fluff

If you decide to do it you will need a male chaperone to drive you around and to wait outside the door during your visits. Who is going to look after your kids if you choose to go down this route?

It may sound like an easy way to make relatively good money but the practicalities of it have to be considered too. Much of the prostitution in Dublin is run by gangs, you're entering potentially very dangerous territory. And you say you will "choose" your own clients. Fair enough, but you don't know who you are choosing online, you have no idea in fact or what they are capable of.

axel rose

How much money do you need to put food on the table? How much money do you think you can earn? How many clients are you hoping to have?
Do you have a plan to vet your clients?

Emme

Have you checked out that you're getting all the social welfare benefits you're entitled to?

If you haven't done so already go to MABS for financial advice.

I sincerely hope that the Irish government is not mismanaging my and other taxpayers' contributions in such a way that women in this country have to sell their bodies to feed their children!!! :mad:

Working as a prostitute when you have children puts your children in danger as well as yourself. Bear this in mind and check out your social welfare entitlements thoroughly.

panda100

Some very good advice on here that I think you should take. Make sure you are getting your full entitlments from the goverment. Also there are many charities such as Vincent De Paul who will give donations to families in dire need.

Generally, I think its a very bad idea to go into prostiutution beacuse you are desperate for money. Escorting in Ireland is not about just lying on your back while someone shags you for five minutes. Most session last 30mins where your full body is at the clients disposal. Most men are looking for a GFE experience which means kissing,cuddling, acting to a stranger how you would towards your boyfriend. Most escorts in Ieland offer very kinky stuff for very little money. So if you are not completely sexually uninhibited and willing to do all the extra's then you probably won't make much money. Someone who is desperate for money and doesnt enjoy whats she's doing isn't exaclt a turn on.

I think it would be pretty dangerous to go independent straight away. Most clients will not want a hired muscle waiting outside the room. Also that isn't really going to fully protect you and you'll still be quite vunerable to any form of assault of attack.
Perosnally, I think starting of with a well established agency is a lot more safer. They will already have clients on their books that they can trust. They will also give you a bit of advice and guidance,and discreet,safe rooms you can use.

If you really,really must go down this route then message some of the Irish girls on Escort Ireland who will give you good advice on entering the world of escorting in Ireland.

I used to volunteer for Rhuama so I know a lot of this info from them. Its not a 'job' I would wish upon my worst enemy. I don't want to generalise but most of the women were pretty f*cked up emotionally.

Denimgirl

why don't you do one of them schemes for single parents that give you 20 hours of work a week and you still keep your entitlements? there are so many options!please don't go down the prostitution road your gonna open a whole lot of other problems for yourself,mentally,emotionally and maybe physically too!Where theres a will theres a way but please don't take that option

Bottle_of_Smoke

I don't know what shape you're in but what about lapdancing? hell of a lot safer. Surrounded by bouncers and no exchange of fluids. (condoms break)

Overheal

stoneybroke wrote: »

hi , i find myself in the awful position of not being able to feed my kids and I am seriously considering selling my body for sex , apart from the obvious safety issues , does any one here know anything about escorting or could anyone give some non moralistic advise on what I can do to minimize danger for myself .

non moralistically, its still illegal, and from what I understand would not be very enjoyable.

There are lots of legal things you can do, like lapdancing and such.

As for your expenses, what are they? Cars? Mortgages? What can you get rid of, if anything? If you need to default; you need to default.

InReality

I think from a practical sense there must be easier ways of feeding your kids.
Spend some time at the SW office or at MABS or with SvdP and be 100% sure you have no other options. Taking to people at rhuma would be a good idea too.

Nevyn

Honestly I dont' think it's worth the rish to your physical, mental and emotional health.
There is help out there to keep you and your child from starving, please to access those services.