The only real competitive montage for MW2

jfrmbray

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRd_VAlEN8g

Taken from the vid's description:This Dualtage contains 100% Decerto/MLG competitive footage, against the best players the EU has to offer. The clips from Sowerz were mostly recorded over a 3-4 months period, and the clips from me (LukeJS) over a total of 2 weeks. All footage is from 4v4 tournament matches or scrims.

Basically this isn't a montage from public games but actual matches that have money at stake.Some of you that are familiar with the PC scene will recognize some familiar tags:SK,dignitas,epsilon etc. (the recorders are actually part of the infused org).

The reason I'm posting this in a dedicated thread is because I thought that some people on here needed to see what a GOOD MW2 player is :P

If you have any questions about the EU competitive scene feel free to ask.

Washington Irving

TBH the gameplay was nothing special. The editing was epic though

Quazzie

To be fair it says this is based on footage taken over 3-4 months. FFS if I captured footage of all my games over the last 3-4 months and I could edit like that then I'd have very similar montage. Montages are shít and its very easy to pick footage that makes a player look good.

If he posted some full games you'd probably see a much fuller story that could lead to a totally different story.

hightower1

Quazzie wrote: »

To be fair it says this is based on footage taken over 3-4 months. FFS if I captured footage of all my games over the last 3-4 months and I could edit like that then I'd have very similar montage. Montages are shít and its very easy to pick footage that makes a player look good.

If he posted some full games you'd probably see a much fuller story that could lead to a totally different story.

I was in total agreement, when all the clip sections ended after one mag??? wtf, I'm sure in every game all of us had had at least one of those "zone" moments UNTIL the part in highrise and the guy is using the famas on the helipad (starts @ 4:08).... now that was serious skill IMO. Strike that, seen tat he too just clears one mag, thought he went through a few.

Kev_ps3

I posted that vid here a few weeks ago. btw what you mean 'the only real competitive montage for mw2'??

jfrmbray

Kev_ps3 wrote: »

I posted that vid here a few weeks ago. btw what you mean 'the only real competitive montage for mw2'??

What you all don't seem to understand is that these games were for MONEY against some of the top players in europe.If you think"pffft,I could do that easy" then think of playing against 4 of yourself,when money's on the line.Every kill counts in these matches,it's 4v4 NOT 6v6 and there's always a respawn delay.


@Kev_Ps3,I was wrong in saying the only competitive tage for mw2,theres a few others,JaCk b's,wonder's and a few others here and there but this is definitely the best.I'm also sorry that this is a re-post.

Kev_ps3

jfrmbray wrote: »

What you all don't seem to understand is that these games were for MONEY against some of the top players in europe.If you think"pffft,I could do that easy" then think of playing against 4 of yourself,when money's on the line.Every kill counts in these matches,it's 4v4 NOT 6v6 and there's always a respawn delay.


@Kev_Ps3,I was wrong in saying the only competitive tage for mw2,theres a few others,JaCk b's,wonder's and a few others here and there but this is definitely the best.I'm also sorry that this is a re-post.

How do you know they were for money? Says in his description that 'All footage is from 4v4 tournament matches or scrims'. Scrims (practice matches) dont involve money and not all tournament prizes are for money.

Magill

Really nice, much prefer that to the ****ty montages of people owning noobs in public games.

jfrmbray

Kev_ps3 wrote: »

How do you know they were for money? Says in his description that 'All footage is from 4v4 tournament matches or scrims'. Scrims (practice matches) dont involve money and not all tournament prizes are for money.

Ha you actually know something,quite a change from boards:rolleyes:.I'm trying to help put it in perspective for some people,not ALL of it was for money but he's still playing against some of the EU's top players when they are all trying their hardest to win,scrims are much more difficult to play in when compared to publics.

celtic723

jfrmbray wrote: »

Ha you actually know something,quite a change from boards:rolleyes:.I'm trying to help put it in perspective for some people,not ALL of it was for money but he's still playing against some of the EU's top players when they are all trying their hardest to win,scrims are much more difficult to play in when compared to publics.

Might i ask you wtf you're doing on here if you've that attitude?

****ing hell!

hightower1

jfrmbray wrote: »

Ha you actually know something,quite a change from boards:rolleyes:.I'm trying to help put it in perspective for some people,not ALL of it was for money but he's still playing against some of the EU's top players when they are all trying their hardest to win,scrims are much more difficult to play in when compared to publics.

I know where your coming form mate, seems like at times on boards that if you post a thread that doesnt seem to "live up" to certain regulars standards it gets slated when in reality all your trying to do is contribute.
Perhaps we all need to realise this is a PUBLIC forum so everyone can post what they want as long as its within the charter rules, if its not good it'll die if you've nothing good to say then dont.

Cheers for contributing , I enjoyed the vid.

Dymo

The Frag cup was all for money and there was a range of game team tactic's even Riot shield was used by some players. Generally any intro that lasts longer that 10-15 seconds I get the feeling that there's not much in the video. Why not show some gameplay instead of these highly edited clips, maybe awesome after the game came out last November but now there just boring.

jfrmbray

hightower1 wrote: »

I know where your coming form mate, seems like at times on boards that if you post a thread that doesnt seem to "live up" to certain regulars standards it gets slated when in reality all your trying to do is contribute.
Perhaps we all need to realise this is a PUBLIC forum so everyone can post what they want as long as its within the charter rules, if its not good it'll die if you've nothing good to say then dont.

Cheers for contributing , I enjoyed the vid.

Thanks man,I expected these responses anyway.It just takes a little explanation on my behalf to convey the background of the video.

celtic723 wrote: »

Might i ask you wtf you're doing on here if you've that attitude?

****ing hell!

It was tongue in cheek post,calm down.

Dymo wrote: »

The Frag cup was all for money and there was a range of game team tactic's even Riot shield was used by some players. Generally any intro that lasts longer that 10-15 seconds I get the feeling that there's not much in the video. Why not show some gameplay instead of these highly edited clips, maybe awesome after the game came out last November but now there just boring.

The frag cup was a joke,it was a one-off tourney for americans,not for EU players.Besides do you honestly think that riot shields/noob tubes really show off how good you are?The rules that they're(the guys in the vid) playing are 4v4 decerto rules,arguably the most competitive there are:

MW2 Decerto v1 Rules
Basic Settings
Spectating: Team only
Friendly Fire: Enabled
Forced Respawns: Enabled
Wave Spawn Delay: None
Respawn Delay: 5 seconds Demolition / 7.5 seconds Capture The Flag.
Radar Always On: Disabled
Max Health: Normal
Health Regeneration: Normal
Kill Cam: Enabled
Headshots Only: Disabled
Third Person View: Disabled
Allow Perks: Enabled
Killstreak Rewards: Disabled
Number of Lives: Unlimited (1 for Search and Destroy.)
Join in Progress: Disabled
Hardcore Mode: Disabled

Search and Destroy
Round Length: 2.5 Minutes
Bomb Timer: 45 Seconds
Number of lives: 1 Life
Plant Time: 7.5 Seconds
Defuse Time: 7.5 Seconds
Multi Bomb: Disabled
Score Limit: 4 Points
Round Switch: Every Round

Capture The Flag
Time Limit: 10 Minutes
Score Limit: Unlimited
Respawn Delay: 7.5 Seconds

Demolition
Time Limit: 2.5 Minutes
Round Switch: Every Round
Bomb Timer: 45 Seconds
Plant Time: 5 Seconds
Defuse Time: 5 Seconds
Extra Time: 2 Minutes
Respawn Delay: 5 Seconds

In the event of a 1-1 tie on rounds, the game must be ended and the team with most kills picks which spawn they want to play a final round.


Maps and Modes
Favela - Capture the Flag
Highrise - All modes
Invasion - All modes
Karachi - All modes
Scrapyard - All modes
Terminal - All modes

Banned Weapons
Grenade Launcher
Claymore
C4
Secondary Launchers
Secondary Machine Pistols
Blast Shield
Tactical Insertion
Riot Shield
All Shotguns
LMG's
MMG's
P90

Banned Perks
Bling
One Man Army
Painkiller
Final Stand
Martyrdom
Death Streak set to Copycat



If you read the ruleset you'll see what I mean.

Kev_ps3

jfrmbray wrote: »

Ha you actually know something,quite a change from boards:rolleyes:.I'm trying to help put it in perspective for some people,not ALL of it was for money but he's still playing against some of the EU's top players when they are all trying their hardest to win,scrims are much more difficult to play in when compared to publics.

Im the leader of the mw2 ps3 team for Skitlite-Gaming, a professional gaming org. We arnt a very top team but came 9th in the ConsoleGaming Spring ladder. There are a few boards members in the team so there are a few here that know about competitive gaming.

krudler

Banned Weapons
Grenade Launcher
Claymore
C4
Secondary Launchers
Secondary Machine Pistols
Blast Shield
Tactical Insertion
Riot Shield
All Shotguns
LMG's
MMG's
P90

Banned Perks
Bling
One Man Army
Painkiller
Final Stand
Martyrdom
Death Streak set to Copycat

some harsh stuff banned there, OMA is banned but Scavenger isnt? its essentially the same thing, i know you'd have to move around to replenish with Scavenger but with the level of the guys playing I'd say campers dont last long in those games. Also LMGs banned? why? they're no more powerful than AR's most of the time,especially with stopping power. The Aug is almost the same as having an AR just with a bigger mag size, and its not even that big.

Be fun to try a boards night with some of these rules, no killstreaks etc.

krudler

True, I could do up a montage of dazzling throwing knife kills but out of context they're just standard ones.

hightower1

krudler wrote: »

True, I could do up a montage of dazzling throwing knife kills but out of context they're just standard ones.

Lolz , Krud you LOVE them throwin knives! @ least your missus has ya sorted for xmas! :P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P

krudler

hightower1 wrote: »

Lolz , Krud you LOVE them throwin knives! @ least your missus has ya sorted for xmas! :P:P:P:P:P:P:P:P


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I really do, they're so satisfying to bury one in a guy whos running, stationary targets are fun as you know they'll be raging when they see their killcam, and i've gotten a few completely random hoof it and see what happens ones,used one to detonate a guys claymore and kill him once, that was a laugh

krudler

141_Oscar_Mike wrote: »

krudler wrote: »

Even better when bury one in a guy hiding behind a riot shield

Happened myself many a time:D, I got my first ricochet kill the other night, met a shielder on the stairs in the main building on Sub Base, aimed at the wall beside him and it bounced off and hit him behind the shield, I really need to start recording this stuff lol

Magill

141_Oscar_Mike wrote: »

Anyone can capture footage over 3 months , save their highlights and be called "A good player". Show us a full game then you can be judged.

In anything that we want to go,
from just a beginner to a pro
You need a montage:P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RH3q5Uc5E-g

You can tell just by looking at his aim that hes a good player, but yeah, its true that montages don't give a true picture of some1's skill.

Besides, theres no such thing as a pro MW2 player, as any pro cod player is still playing MW1.

krudler

Magill wrote: »

You can tell just by looking at his aim that hes a good player, but yeah, its true that montages don't give a true picture of some1's skill.

Besides, theres no such thing as a pro MW2 player, as any pro cod player is still playing MW1.

Oohhhh snap!

jfrmbray

Kev_ps3 wrote: »

Im the leader of the mw2 ps3 team for Skitlite-Gaming, a professional gaming org. We arnt a very top team but came 9th in the ConsoleGaming Spring ladder. There are a few boards members in the team so there are a few here that know about competitive gaming.

Really?Do you know Rich(his tag on ps3 is revised_cookie or something) or spanky?Used to team with them both on the 360.

141_Oscar_Mike wrote: »

Anyone can capture footage over 3 months , save their highlights and be called "A good player". Show us a full game then you can be judged.

In anything that we want to go,
from just a beginner to a pro
You need a montage:P

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RH3q5Uc5E-g

Yeah I agree with you there have a look at his channel http://www.youtube.com/user/lukesowersby There are full matches on there.

jfrmbray

Magill wrote: »

You can tell just by looking at his aim that hes a good player, but yeah, its true that montages don't give a true picture of some1's skill.

Besides, theres no such thing as a pro MW2 player, as any pro cod player is still playing MW1.

On PC thats true yeah,nobody plays mw2 but we're talking about console here.Although the EU's top players ARE currently playing mw1 as theres an upcoming LAN for CoD4 soon.However they'll be moving back to mw2 around august time.



Sorry for double post guize.

Magill

jfrmbray wrote: »

On PC thats true yeah,nobody plays mw2 but we're talking about console here.Although the EU's top players ARE currently playing mw1 as theres an upcoming LAN for CoD4 soon.However they'll be moving back to mw2 around august time.



Sorry for double post guize.

Are you talking about console or pc when you say they'll be moving to mw2 in august ?

MW2 is diabolical for competitive play and will never be a good game competitively, im not too interested in the console side of things as consoles are fairly **** for fps games, but the whole no dedicated server side to things sort of ****ed mw2 up.

Shammy

Magill wrote: »

Are you talking about console or pc when you say they'll be moving to mw2 in august ?

MW2 is diabolical for competitive play and will never be a good game competitively.

Oops you should have told that to dopedgoat and tcm (i think), who were the first eu team to win at an event in the States , 10k money with 4k electronic stuff.:)

He is talking about console.

Kev_ps3

jfrmbray wrote: »

Really?Do you know Rich(his tag on ps3 is revised_cookie or something) or spanky?Used to team with them both on the 360.

Know the name, used to be in YoYoTech if I remember correctly.

Kev_ps3

Might be in this vid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJZM6qY7rcM

Magill

Probably the only mw2 event in the states . Honestly i have no idea about the console scene. I know any big US team that has ever come to an EU lan (At least the last year or so) has been stomped by EU teams.

I know there was a bunch of events for mw2 when it was first released, but that was only because they were sponsored directly by activision, after a few months they stopped any sponsored lans and MW1 stayed top.

jfrmbray

Shammy wrote: »

Oops you should have told that to dopedgoat and tcm (i think), who were the first eu team to win at an event in the States , 10k money with 4k electronic stuff.:)

He is talking about console.

Yep exactly,was a good day for the EU,Yanks had been giving us stick about being **** at cod but then TCM did that for us

Kev_ps3 wrote: »

Might be in this vid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJZM6qY7rcM

Yeah that's both of them alright.

Magill wrote: »

Probably the only mw2 event in the states . Honestly i have no idea about the console scene. I know any big US team that has ever come to an EU lan (At least the last year or so) has been stomped by EU teams.

I know there was a bunch of events for mw2 when it was first released, but that was only because they were sponsored directly by activision, after a few months they stopped any sponsored lans and MW1 stayed top.

Kinda,theres been 1 big lan for mw2 and another few lans here and there.The major European lan that's coming up is ECL(gonna make a post about that on here aswell,try and get a few teams to attend).It was originally Tugsy organizing it(off h3f) but now it's loco and mellow(from dig and TI respectively).That's where CoD4 is being played,although it's only because of the 18+ age-rating(we don't have dedi servers on console unfortunately).However,all CoD lans on console will be mw2 after that(which is a shame as it's quite a **** game).It also got dropped from MLG which is a HUGE blow for us but whatever,the US community is going to start organizing their lans from now on.