Crackdown 2 early demo access

calex71

http://www.xbox.com/en-GB/news-features/news/Microsoft_CD2_Contest.htm

Says UK only but can't hurt to try, if not demo is out for all on monday.

rizzla

Yeah I got in. It's really good. 30 min time limit, but you can keep retrying. Also, you can get 10 achievements in the game that will unlock when you pop in the retail copy of the game.

Targetting is a lil annoying. If an enemy is beside a car if the reticule isn't on the enemy and you press the LT more than likely you'll lock onto the car.

So many orbs.

Agility
Special
Co-op
Renegade Agility
Renegade Driving

Can't wait for some of my friends to get in on it so we can do some co-op.

calex71

rizzla wrote: »

So many orbs.

I was driven to the brink of insanity over those little blighters in the last one :mad:

Captain Chaos

calex71 wrote: »

I was driven to the brink of insanity over those little blighters in the last one :mad:

And the good news is that some of them actively move around in this one, so you actually do have to chase them.:D

calex71

Captain Chaos wrote: »

And the good news is that some of them actively move around in this one, so you actually do have to chase them.:D

ahhhhhhhhh $@£;!% *&%£€

rizzla

Captain Chaos wrote: »

And the good news is that some of them actively move around in this one, so you actually do have to chase them.:D

Yeah the Renegade orbs. There's 30 agility ones and 15 driving ones, not that many. And the first of each is fairly easy to get, I say they will get harder and harder though.

docdolittle

I got a code too.. but what did you guys say to the twitter thing to get one? :pac:

calex71

The targeting is so bad I turned it off after 5 minutes, It seems to pick out stuff in the distance like barrels rather than an enemy nearer to you and shooting at you :mad:

McDermotX

Wow.........that game needs some serious work.
Which 'aint gonna happen, so you can only surmise that its an old build, given it'll be pretty much locked down for release.
Very poor controls, LT targeting is a mess (and that's being kind), graphically very rough in an "early 360 release" kind of way (might need to fire up the first one for comparison purposes), but above all is severely lacks the "fun" factor that was so prevalent in both the original and it's demo.
Only bit that raised a smile was the Carmageddon like feeling of driving around with all the mutants out and about. Gone from being an automatic purchase, to waiting for final product word I'm afraid.

iMuse

Havent tried the demo but i thought the first one was decent but i would be cautious about this game because it didnt even get a mention from microsoft at E3 and someone at the show said it was one of the few games there was no queue of people waiting to play it which is a bad sign

NotorietyH

iMuse wrote: »

Havent tried the demo but i thought the first one was decent but i would be cautious about this game because it didnt even get a mention from microsoft at E3 and someone at the show said it was one of the few games there was no queue of people waiting to play it which is a bad sign

Well it got mentioned briefly, I wouldn't go too much by its showing at E3. People there knew it was coming out in a few weeks and as they were gaming press many of them probably already had review copies. People would be muc more eager to try out games that were coming out months if not a year from now rather than one coming in a couple of weeks.

I'm downloading the demo at the mo', liked the first one but wary of the second. I haven't seen anything from it that makes it look any different from the first. Besides the mutants, which take away from the game if you ask me. Par tof the fun of Crackdown was being this overpowered super-agent. If you're fighting enemies as strong as you it takes away from the appeal if you ask me.

VinLieger

iMuse wrote: »

Havent tried the demo but i thought the first one was decent but i would be cautious about this game because it didnt even get a mention from microsoft at E3 and someone at the show said it was one of the few games there was no queue of people waiting to play it which is a bad sign

Thats probably because its been available to play at press events for the last year and most sites have review copies in their hands or will be getting them soon since its coming out in 2 weeks which is why MS didnt make a big fuss over it.
Just tried the beta and found it enjoyable, ill deffinitely be getting this on release day, didnt think the targeting issues were as bad as people say just something you need to get used to, I did have a problem with the night time being too dark so i couldnt see the enviornment at all but maybe the room i was playing it in was too bright due to all the sun(havent had to deal with that problem for a while :P)

fifth

Hope someone figures out a way to freeze the timer

Branoic

Loved the first game but wow, not a good demo. Controls feel impercise, targetting is beyond frustrating and I'm by no means a graphics whore but good god, it's shocking. The city looks cardboard and lifeless, barely better than metropolis in that superman returns game!

chrislad

Very meh. Maybe it's rose tinted glasses, but the first one looked better. Targeting is pretty poor.

fifth

The explosions looked particularly bad..

VinLieger

Anyone whos complaining about this game hasnt tried the co-op. I glitched it this evening to stop the timer and played around with a mate and had a ton of fun. Unlocked serveral of the special abilities barge and ground slam are insane. Also played a bit of baseball with a lightpost and some corpses.
This is deffinitely a buy in my books and to those who are complaining about graphics or explosions etc just stop analysing it and have a bit of fun, its not there to be looked at its there to be destroyed

chrislad

It's not the graphics, though its surprising that a sequel appears to be worse than the original. The controls are pretty ****e, which would be my main concern.

NotorietyH

I only played Crackdown 1 there for the first time about 6 months back and this just feels like an expansion pack from the first. It's pretty much exactly the same. Controls feels a bit clunky. Seems a bit dated. Not too fussy about the graphics, and I'll probably pick it up still as there's not much else out around then. Depends on what's on XBLA and PSN that week though. I've been replaying Infamous this week and moving directly from one to the other, Crackdown 2 doesn't come across that well at all in comparion. Not half as fluid or anything. At least the one thing they copied over from Infamous is the Orb ping ability so you can send out a ping and nearby orbs will appear on your mini-map.

calex71

chrislad wrote: »

It's not the graphics, though its surprising that a sequel appears to be worse than the original. The controls are pretty ****e, which would be my main concern.

Same here, the targeting killed it for me, I had no issue with the gfx at all .

VinLieger

calex71 wrote: »

Same here, the targeting killed it for me, I had no issue with the gfx at all .

I had no problem with the targetting at all, just grab a uv gun and fire away kills pretty much everything and fires vehicles pretty far, for guns you just need to be as precise its no different from the first one

VinLieger

VinLieger wrote: »

I had no problem with the targetting at all, just grab a uv gun and fire away kills pretty much everything and fires vehicles pretty far, for guns you just need to be as precise its no different from the first one

I think it was me playing co-op with you last night. And i second this opnion the targeting is no different than the first. If you pick up other objects, snap the left trigger and move your right analog towards the bad guys. Was great fun and some really cool features have been added. Only thing i can't understand they removed the upgradable cars from the first game (WHY?????). BTW, Chucking cars at hordes of freaks is a joy!

fifth

Well if I wasn't interested in graphics I'd buy a Wii or stick with my old xbox.. I think it's just disappointing the demo (work in progress) looks worse than the original game. It's expected nowadays that the sequel will make certain improvements with regards to graphics/controls/new features. Doesn't feel like a sequel.

gizmo

funkyflea wrote: »

Well if I wasn't interested in graphics I'd buy a Wii or stick with my old xbox.. I think it's just disappointing the demo (work in progress) looks worse than the original game. It's expected nowadays that the sequel will make certain improvements with regards to graphics/controls/new features. Doesn't feel like a sequel.

I don't think it really looks worse, for a better comparison check out the Digital Foundry feature here.

M!Ck^ wrote: »

Only thing i can't understand they removed the upgradable cars from the first game (WHY?????). BTW, Chucking cars at hordes of freaks is a joy!

Having upgradable cars meant having 4 different models for each of the vehicles. One would assume they thought having a large numbers of freaks visible on-screen was a more worthy use of resources.

VinLieger

funkyflea wrote: »

Well if I wasn't interested in graphics I'd buy a Wii or stick with my old xbox.. I think it's just disappointing the demo (work in progress) looks worse than the original game. It's expected nowadays that the sequel will make certain improvements with regards to graphics/controls/new features. Doesn't feel like a sequel.

Graphics do not make a good game.
This game looks just as good to me as the original who cares if they havent updated them? they have added multiplayer, the ability to have tons more ppl on screen much better co-op and several new gameplay elements like gliding and underground areas, would you prefer it too be just a shinier but no other improvements? I couldnt give a damn about graphics improvements as long as its fun too play.
If your biggest concern for whether to buy a game is graphics i dunno what your doing playing consoles you should be on a high end PC.

fifth

VinLieger wrote: »

Graphics do not make a good game.
This game looks just as good to me as the original who cares if they havent updated them? they have added multiplayer, the ability to have tons more ppl on screen much better co-op and several new gameplay elements like gliding and underground areas, would you prefer it too be just a shinier but no other improvements? I couldnt give a damn about graphics improvements as long as its fun too play.
If your biggest concern for whether to buy a game is graphics i dunno what your doing playing consoles you should be on a high end PC.

I never said graphics make a good game. I prefer gaming on a console instead of my PC. My biggest concern isn't graphics, I merely pointed out that it's almost standard these days for there to be some graphical enhancements over the original titles.

Thanks Gizmo for the comparison, maybe I'm looking back fondly at Crackdown but it just doesn't feel like Crackdown 2 actually looks better.

#Daniel

You can glitch the timer, saw this on Gamespot forums:

Disconnect from Live.

Start game.

Warning appears, hit cancel.

Attempt to start again, voila, no time.

VinLieger

#Daniel wrote: »

You can glitch the timer, saw this on Gamespot forums:

Its a bit more complicated than that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax6VpLdZyRI

fifth

Took me around 10 or 15 minutes to get it right the first time..

chrislad

#Daniel wrote: »

You can glitch the timer, saw this on Gamespot forums:

30 minutes was enough. Thanks.

VinLieger

chrislad wrote: »

30 minutes was enough. Thanks.

Game only really gets fun once you lvl up beyond 30 mins

NotorietyH

I'll probably pick it up in the end alright, but did find the demo frustrating at times even after giving it another playthrough. Can't forgive them for that awful awful cover of 'Bad Moon Rising' that was playing on the radio station in-game.

voxpop

Yeah played the demo for about 3/4 hours(with glitch) - tbh its very similar to crackdown 1 except there are Freaks at night. Seems very quick to upgrade. Not sure if there are more weapons in the full game - only seems to be 1 uv weapon

Axwell

funkyflea wrote: »

Hope someone figures out a way to freeze the timer

They already have apparently.

gizmo

voxpop wrote: »

Yeah played the demo for about 3/4 hours(with glitch) - tbh its very similar to crackdown 1 except there are Freaks at night. Seems very quick to upgrade. Not sure if there are more weapons in the full game - only seems to be 1 uv weapon

The demo features accelerated levelling, just like the Crackdown 1 demo, so as to give you a change at experiencing higher level play.

I duno, I thought there were loads of weapons to be used, not only the Agency ones but the Cell ones too. As for the UV weapons, there is only two, the UV Shotgun and the UV Grenade.

Vyse

Tried to download this last night and saw it was only for Gold Members. My membership just expired last week:rolleyes:

voxpop

gizmo wrote: »

The demo features accelerated levelling, just like the Crackdown 1 demo, so as to give you a change at experiencing higher level play.

Ah ok - makes sense - seemed a bit strange that I could fully level up in the space of 2 hours


There are a number of guns - but they are too similar or useless - like 3 different types of shotgun that are all pretty much the same, a number of machine guns - with only the big one being any good. The turret weapons are a bit of a laugh - except you usually end up with the agency guys after you cus you have killed too many civilians. The uv shotgun looks great, the way it throws ppl and vehicles around the place - pity there isnt more weapons like that rather than standard machine gun/sniper/shotgun stuff

As I said it pretty much exactly like crackdown 1 but with tweaks here and there - no real major changes.

VinLieger

voxpop wrote: »

Ah ok - makes sense - seemed a bit strange that I could fully level up in the space of 2 hours


There are a number of guns - but they are too similar or useless - like 3 different types of shotgun that are all pretty much the same, a number of machine guns - with only the big one being any good. The turret weapons are a bit of a laugh - except you usually end up with the agency guys after you cus you have killed too many civilians. The uv shotgun looks great, the way it throws ppl and vehicles around the place - pity there isnt more weapons like that rather than standard machine gun/sniper/shotgun stuff

As I said it pretty much exactly like crackdown 1 but with tweaks here and there - no real major changes.

Im betting they will have weapon and vehicle dlc like the first 1

Mr Moon

Does the timer glitch still work?

NotorietyH

Mr Moon wrote: »

Does the timer glitch still work?

They patched it today I think.

Optimus Prime

ive had the full game the last week and its pretty good, if you liked the first one you will like this, there are plenty of vehicles in it and a helicopter too, i havent played the demo so not sure if that was in there, you have the harpoon gun aswell. The UV shotgun is great craic and the wings on your suit are cool. The mulitplayer aspect of it though is where you will have the most laugh. i have a review up on the site if anyone is interested.

Great stuff, found out that the agency cars are in fact in the game. Couple of reviews up..all looking postive.

http://www.gamesthirst.com/2010/07/04/first-crackdown-2-review-score-released/

http://www.gamefocus.ca/?nav=reviewCard&fid=8957

http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3180248

BTW, is it out tomor or Friday?

RobertFoster

Friday here, tomorrow in North America.

NotorietyH

Very unsure about picking this up now. Pretty much every review I've read has said that it's is basically the first game just redone. They haven't changed anything...like at all. They seem to have removed the Gang Leader types set-up, so it's basically Crackdown 1. Most reviewers seem to be realy disappointed in it. Crackdown was fun and all, I played it for the first time about 6 months back. It felt a bit dated, and the demo for 2 made it feel more dated even.

Might pick it up if its cheap, but will probably just wait for a few months until it drops in price. I've a feeling it's going to drop fairly quickly.

humanji

NotorietyH wrote: »

Very unsure about picking this up now. Pretty much every review I've read has said that it's is basically the first game just redone. They haven't changed anything...like at all. They seem to have removed the Gang Leader types set-up, so it's basically Crackdown 1. Most reviewers seem to be realy disappointed in it. Crackdown was fun and all, I played it for the first time about 6 months back. It felt a bit dated, and the demo for 2 made it feel more dated even.

Might pick it up if its cheap, but will probably just wait for a few months until it drops in price. I've a feeling it's going to drop fairly quickly.

I'm the same. I was excited, but realised that it's just not different enough to make me want it. I can imagine a few people getting pissed off with it and selling it second hand, but I may wait even longer for it to be budget.