Garda Trainee 2010 - Drivers Licence

johnhargrove

Is it true a full drivers licence is now needed when applying to the Garda?

da__flash

johnhargrove wrote: »

Is it true a full drivers licence is now needed when applying to the Garda?

this is only a recommendaition as of yet but knows what you ll need when you are applying :cool:

genericguy

doesn't make sense, when you consider that colour blindness means you can't drive a garda vehicle so that rule would be redundant in many cases. might be one way of them whittling down the number of applicants though, but i could see some people calling it a method of discrimination.

pasha75

Colour blindness is no longer a bar to driving Garda Vehicles. Just for info.

genericguy

pasha75 wrote: »

Colour blindness is no longer a bar to driving Garda Vehicles. Just for info.

you, sir, have just made my day!

sdanseo

pasha75 wrote: »

Colour blindness is no longer a bar to driving Garda Vehicles. Just for info.

It is for the Garda reserve, it's written on the form I got in an email on Wednesday.

Shield

pasha75 wrote: »

Colour blindness is no longer a bar to driving Garda Vehicles. Just for info.

Someone who went for a medical posted his experience here and was tested for colour blindness.

Unless you can prove otherwise, the forum will disregard your post.

itsallgood

psni wrote: »

Someone who went for a medical posted his experience here and was tested for colour blindness.

Unless you can prove otherwise, the forum will disregard your post.

There is a colour blindness test in the medical.

As was said these are just recomendations, and as of yet from what I heard from HQ, they have not implented and doesnt look like they will be.

However, they're not told of everything thats going on at the moment and they could be thrown in there but currently its the same process as always.

Yogi Bear

sdonn wrote: »

It is for the Garda reserve, it's written on the form I got in an email on Wednesday.

Just for your info, reserve gardai can't drive official vehicles full stop.

Shield

Yogi Bear wrote: »

Just for your info, reserve gardai can't drive official vehicles full stop.

I think he might have meant you cannot become a GR if you are colour blind.

genericguy

psni wrote: »

I think he might have meant you cannot become a GR if you are colour blind.

i have it from someone in the HQ today (a civilian staff member - and obviously I can't post proof because I don't have documentation and won't be naming names) that you still can't drive if you are colourblind (bummer...)

As far as my source has told me -defective colour vision does not bar entry, however they get technical here - there are different types of colour deficiency (red-green, green and blue-yellow). colour-blindness is, strictly speaking, the inability to see in colour (monochromacy - basically seeing like a black and white tv) and this is a bar to entry apparently, whereas the other types are colour deficiencies, not colour-blindness and these are not a bar to entry.

sorry for swinging OT mr. PSNI sir, but it's an intriguing subject, and with such a high frequency of "sufferers" in the irish population I thought it might be of interest to many readers/posters here.

sdanseo

Yogi Bear wrote: »

Just for your info, reserve gardai can't drive official vehicles full stop.

I know.

psni wrote: »

I think he might have meant you cannot become a GR if you are colour blind.

Nope, my point was that it says on the GR form in big bold letters "Members of the force who are colour blind are not permitted to drive State vehicles or motorcycles". Seems fairly set in stone to me.

This is on form MF1 for those who've any knowledge of it.

Commish

johnhargrove wrote: »

Is it true a full drivers licence is now needed when applying to the Garda?

Hi everyone. Just a little pointer. Its called a driving licence not a drivers licence. For info only.

vampire of kilmainham

johnhargrove wrote: »

Is it true a full drivers licence is now needed when applying to the Garda?

No you dont need a drivers licence if you want to drive a garda service vehicle you can do a drivers course in the force where you will learn extra skills that you wont learn outside...

vampire of kilmainham

Commish wrote: »

Hi everyone. Just a little pointer. Its called a driving licence not a drivers licence. For info only.

O how politically correct you are:D:D:D

pasha75

Garda Reservists can not drive official vehicles. Up to 2003 Gardai that were deemed colour blind could not drive vehicles. That has been rescinded except for exceptional severe cases. A buddy of mine could not drive for the first number of years in the force due to colour blindness but now he can due to the rule change. It is however still tested in the medical.

Hooch

Colour blindness certainly barrs you from driving official vehicles. Always has.....always will.

pasha75

Sorry to harp on. But you are incorrect. lots of members that for years could not drive due to the condition can now do so. that is a fact.

pah

vampire of kilmainham wrote: »

No you dont need a drivers licence if you want to drive a garda service vehicle you can do a drivers course in the force where you will learn extra skills that you wont learn outside...

Ehh ..... No



You do need a FULL driving licence before you can drive any official vehicle

nogoodnamesleft

pah wrote: »

Ehh ..... No



You do need a FULL driving licence before you can drive any official vehicle

Ehh....No

Gardai as well as other emergency service workers are exempt from having driving licenses while on duty.

This was highlighted in recent times by the following case. The member was legally driving the vehicle (as he was on duty at the time).

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/garda-in-fatal-crash-didnt-have-a-driving-licence-inquest-told-1945362.html

fearbainne

As far as I know you arnt allowed to drive a garda car without either 1 - having completed the garda driving test with a traffic sergeant or 2 - being given the chief's permission to drive while your application for the garda driving test goes through. In both cases you must produce a full driving license before being allowed in the car, Ive never seen anyone be allowed with just the provisional regardless of the legislation. But perhaps this differs from station to station and depends on the chief in charge etc.

As for the OP's Q, its not a requirement but its a good help!

Hooch

nogoodnamesleft wrote: »

Ehh....No

Gardai as well as other emergency service workers are exempt from having driving licenses while on duty.

This was highlighted in recent times by the following case. The member was legally driving the vehicle (as he was on duty at the time).

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/courts/garda-in-fatal-crash-didnt-have-a-driving-licence-inquest-told-1945362.html

Legislation and Garda procedures is different.....

You cannot drive an official vehicle without a full licence.

There are two ways to drive official vehicle, one is chiefs permission (which carries restrictions) and the Standard car course (no restrictions apart from engine size) To apply for both you need a full B licence.

emptyshed

Scary mis-information.

There different levels of what we commonly refer to as colorblindness, chief medical officer decides if someone can/cant drive for this reason.

Yes of course Garda needs a driving licence to drive a car, depite the odd idiot who has tried to argue in court that you dont.

To answer the origional question:

Last govt recommendation was that all recruits should have driving licence, first aid cert and be able to swim.

thekopend

just get a full license. its not that hard, problem solved..

C-J

thekopend wrote: »

just get a full license. its not that hard, problem solved..

exactly, i can't see why the licence recommendation is such a talking point. If you're not too hot at driving do lessons or do all that you can do to attempt your test, if at once you don't succeed keep tryin! If i didn't have my full licence i'd be making sure i spent this ample waiting time getting one!

kensey

C-J wrote: »

exactly, i can't see why the licence recommendation is such a talking point. If you're not too hot at driving do lessons or do all that you can do to attempt your test, if at once you don't succeed keep tryin! If i didn't have my full licence i'd be making sure i spent this ample waiting time getting one!

Agree with above two posts..
Put your mind at rest and just get one

Simples!

detective

For years Gardai with colourblindness couldn't drive Garda cars but this changed about 3 or 4 years ago. I know a guy who couldn't drive for 31 years of his service and then he drove for his last 3 years service on Chief's permission. I'm not sure if it has reverted back again or not?

To the people who want to drive Garda cars without having first passed their driving test. If you can't pass a civilian driving test you wouldn't have a hope of passing the Garda standard car course. Before you didn't need a license when the course was 4 weeks long. They cut the course to 2 weeks and made it a requirement to have already passed your civilian test.

angelfire9

vampire of kilmainham wrote: »

No you dont need a drivers licence if you want to drive a garda service vehicle you can do a drivers course in the force where you will learn extra skills that you wont learn outside...

Ha ha this made me laugh

Implying that you don't need the civilian test to drive a Garda vehicle but the Garda driving course will do :eek:

You can't get on the Garda course without your full civilian licence

Now I know some Gardai drive like lunatics (my hubby included) but rest assured Mr. Vampire they all have full civilian licences before they are let behind the wheel of any official cars!!

BTW hubby & I both took an Advanced Driving course a few years back and I was found to be the better driver

Steviewonder

rang Headquarters tooday folks.. The polite man at the other end said that a full license is more than likely to come into effect for the next competiton..

Wat do you think fellow future gardai?

Steviwonder

da__flash

Steviewonder wrote: »

rang Headquarters tooday folks.. The polite man at the other end said that a full license is more than likely to come into effect for the next competiton..

Wat do you think fellow future gardai?

Steviwonder

Good idea to be honest but thats just my opinion

halfback5

da__flash wrote: »

Good idea to be honest but thats just my opinion

exactly cant see what it wasn't always the way. Don't see what the big stigma from some people is all about. Just get the full licence if you're not that hot at driving get some lessons and like learning any new skill, practice practice.

Right rant over, apologies if I offended anyone

Steviewonder

Do people think not having a full license would actually stop people being eligible to apply????????????;)

Zambia

Logically if you were AGS you would bring it in?