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3 Influential Tunes for the coming months
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17-06-2010 3:33pm#1Seems that you'll always get a premonition how things are going to develop musically if you follow a couple of labels. Be nice to see how things are developing in other genres.
I'll start off with Dubstep as it doesn't get much of a look in in this forum. Was trying to put together a kind of a dubstep/breaks set the other night we'll be seeing a bit more of this style of stuff as an emergent ''anti-grime/2step'' movement.
Basically you're getting a lot of the elements of that jazzstep/mid 90s D'n'B coming in with some proper breaks and glitchy little triphop stuff going on. I'm delighted as some of the dubstep nowadays might as well be hardhouse FFS.
http://soundcloud.com/mite/villa-de-straylight
Mite - Villa de Straylight; Fecking wonderful - dunno what this whole ''Paris House'' thing is about, always used to associate the french scene with filtered house in the 90s and that glitchy godawful Kitsune/Edbanger sound nowadays.
Been out a while now, but incredible. HotFlush in particular seem to be pushing stuff along in a big way with Joy Orison etc...
The emergent stuff from the London scene. This dude is only 22 AFAIK, has been on the Mary Anne Hobbs show once or twice, and has a cracking remix of Inner City Life/Timeless and some ''Everything (in its right place)'' by Radiohead. Once he stops sounding so much like fourtet he'll be unstoppable.1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRWIzV51Z1E
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Executive Steve wrote: »In 2007 I might have agreed with you on your firt point but I really think a lot of that Techno / Dubstep crossover stuff has pretty much run it's course where Dubstep is concerned really...
Thats basically what I mean to some extent - I'd say I'm just not phrasing meself terribly well. As an aside, I reckon Hotflush are going the way Border Community went a couple years back. A seriously schizophrenic label, but then schizophrenia is often a mark of genius.Joy Orbison is obviously amazing, albeit massively overhyped - "Hyph Mngo" is still an amazing record, Martyn finished up with it the other night and it still goes off something rotten, which is pretty cool for a tune from a genre where shelflife is measured in weeks.
This is indicative of what I mean - there's only so much nonsense dubstep can take before it fragmented. It's going Industrial/Grimey to the point where I couldn't care anymore. This airy, syncopated stuff like Orbison and the Paul Rose releases are exactly my ticket now and I reckon there'll be an updating of mid-90s elements of D'n'B and we'll see a lot more genre transcending stuff - you're right on the money when you saidOneman in Wax a few months ago was a case in point, playing some of the most seriously avant-garde messed up stuff I'd heard out in a while but with such a groove to it and such a street / pop / melodic flavour to it that a pretty mainstream crowd were going nuts to it in a way they possibly mightn't have been prepared to if they'd known what it was!Verse, Data, Fracture, SP:MC, Black Sun Empire, Icicle, Benny Page, Breakage, Kryptic Minds...
On the list. Is it my imagination or is there some ex-Metalheadz there? I really dunno my D'n'B tbh.The rest of Dubstep has just sped up to the high 140's and is turning into a reactionary wobbly snoozefest mickey-waving contest....
Dustep as a genre initself is just... gone. You've labels like Circus just about bridging the gap between earlier dubstep and this mad grime noisecore; but I reckon the new two main splinter genres will be
(1)Grime/Noisecore/Drugged up nonsense
(2) Trip-hoppy, airy D'n'B - some of it in the IDM vein, some of it nearly approaching trancey builds or something like a syncopated High Contrast such as exhibit a here
Which will end up getting a mix between critical acclaim and radioplay by the likes of Annie Mac or whoever. I hope. Kinda....drug noise for UK student nights.
Too bloody right. Was shocked at the amount of those kind of student nights when I was over in London a couple weeks back - and Speed being the drug of choice? What the hell is this, Trainspotting nostalgia?0 -
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Ah - I may have been confused by your use of the word "Grime"
You need to go and get yourself educated man, don't go confusing wobbly midrange student-night Dubstep (aka "Bro-step") with Grime... Check out Wiley, Terror Danjah and Plastician's Instrumentals... (especially the stuff that Plastician put out as Plasticman before he'd heard of Richie Hawtin that's how seperated and segregated the various strands of dance music were only half a decade ago believe it or not!!!)
I do quite like SBTRKT I must say, wasn't feeling the Inner City Life bootleg at all (and I'd imagine he'll be looking over his shoulder in case Goldie comes and beats the living ****e out of him the way he did the last time someone made an unofficial remix of one of his tunes) but I bought the Jose James "Warrior" remix 12" for the Rockwell and Jus Wan remixes (both savage) and the SBTRKT version isn't bad at all...
The real London noise is still to be found in Oneman and Ben UFO mixes though...
Anyone not going to NPLD and looking for some proper interesting music this Saturday should definitely head down to this::::
Can't recommend the Ignored Playaz nights highly enough, always coming with inspirational bookings...0 -
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On the list. Is it my imagination or is there some ex-Metalheadz there? I really dunno my D'n'B tbh.
Yeah few heads in that list with 'Headz tunes under their belts!
Big influential tunes for the next few months:
EVERYONE is getting on the Juke thing after Headhunter came up with this 12" on Loefah's label - even Loe seems to have dropped the ploddy halfstep he basically created in favour of this kind of gear.
Instra:Mental have taken their downward cruise in tempo past Dubstep now and are basically playing classic electro tunes on Rinse FM now! This one's coming out on Skream's label believe it or not!
DnB wise we're about to see stuff go tribal and atmospheric, lots of raw percussion, lots of half-time gear, lots of ethnic samples, lots of rootsy sounds, in Dublin anyway...0 -
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Commercially/Charty (Vague as hell I know).
Not any tunes I'd value for anything intrinsic within them, but they're definitely going to have a cultural impact.
Fatboyslim/Herve. The 303 is going to be very en vogue. Can see Kitsune trying to emulate some sort of glitchy homework stuff shortly. God help us.
James Blake is getting some serious kudos from all the right channels. Really don't know what the hell to make of it. A guilty pleasure for me at the moment, what with pitched up vocals usually being indicative of complete dross and the resemblance to early 90s UK Garage.
Mark Ronson.... Really enough said, but its going to be a massive influence in so many ways over the course of the summer; and here was me thinking the 80s revival was dead.0 -
James Blake is getting some serious kudos from all the right channels. Really don't know what the hell to make of it. A guilty pleasure for me at the moment, what with pitched up vocals usually being indicative of complete dross and the resemblance to early 90s UK Garage.
Yeah I got that the other day, EPIC release! His remix of Mt Kimbie is proper amazing as well!
Still think my favourite James Blake stuff so far has been the bootlegs:
Destiny's Child - "Bills Bills Bills"
Lil Wayne - A Milli (James Blake Harmonimix) <
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I absolutely love that James Blake track. Got a promo of it before it came out and was genuinely blown away.
Since we're on the topic of Uk garage/house/techno/funky hybrids, may as well mention one of my favourite artists of the past 6 months - Floating Points.
And while we're on the topic of Joy Orbison, I think there are a few things that are very interesting about his career.
First off, I love his records. Both of them
(well there's 3 but you get the point).
He has released just 3 records. 3 bloody great records I think we'd all agree. And basically we're all wanting more. I know if I saw a new record of his tomorrow I'd buy it in a heartbeat. It just comes down to average quality I think. Right now that guy's average quality is just ridiculously high. Mainly because he has released only 3 records (and 3 epic ones at that).
And this is what leads to the massive overhype I think. We literally can't get enough of Joy, and so we end up elevating him to demi-god status.
Hype is one thing, and in my opinion Joy Orbison is brilliant for a really simple reason....he makes absolutely brilliant Pop music. No two ways about it. He's got the ear for hooks and melodies, but most importantly he knows how to execute those hooks in a subversive, heavy, unobvious way.0 -
And while we're on the topic of Joy Orbison, I think there are a few things that are very interesting about his career.
First off, I love his records. Both of them (well there's 3 but you get the point).
He has released just 3 records. 3 bloody great records I think we'd all agree. And basically we're all wanting more. I know if I saw a new record of his tomorrow I'd buy it in a heartbeat. It just comes down to average quality I think. Right now that guy's average quality is just ridiculously high. Mainly because he has released only 3 records (and 3 epic ones at that).
And this is what leads to the massive overhype I think. We literally can't get enough of Joy, and so we end up elevating him to demi-god status.
Hype is one thing, and in my opinion Joy Orbison is brilliant for a really simple reason....he makes absolutely brilliant Pop music. No two ways about it. He's got the ear for hooks and melodies, but most importantly he knows how to execute those hooks in a subversive, heavy, unobvious way.
And he's Ray Keith's nephew!
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Here's some small part of the blake influence going mainstream methinks; even down to the acronym
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I imagine this will be pretty influential to a lot of producers this year, very different dubstep style, going away from the **** wobble stuff, more trancey and ambient.
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Executive Steve wrote: »
EVERYONE is getting on the Juke thing after Headhunter came up with this 12" on Loefah's label - even Loe seems to have dropped the ploddy halfstep he basically created in favour of this kind of gear.
Instra:Mental have taken their downward cruise in tempo past Dubstep now and are basically playing classic electro tunes on Rinse FM now! This one's coming out on Skream's label believe it or not!
DnB wise we're about to see stuff go tribal and atmospheric, lots of raw percussion, lots of half-time gear, lots of ethnic samples, lots of rootsy sounds, in Dublin anyway...
Excellent post, would you please elaborate on Juke? Never heard of it before.
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And while we're on the topic of Joy Orbison, I think there are a few things that are very interesting about his career.
First off, I love his records. Both of them (well there's 3 but you get the point).
He has released just 3 records. 3 bloody great records I think we'd all agree. And basically we're all wanting more. .
Agreed, beyond the funky/grime hype he's an excellent producer, massive cross-over potential-less inclined to the more scene end of things (the breakbeat scene is as bad as techno for sub-sub genre categorisation, even )
No doubt once he gets a few big name remixes under his belt he'll be called a selloutExecutive Steve wrote: »Juke aka "Footwork" is a first and foremost a Chicago thing, although you get do get a version of it in Detroit as well where it's known as "Jit". (see: http://hardcoredetroit.biz/jit/jit.html for a history of Detroit's claims to the genre). It's really really freaky odd **** - basically it's somewhere between oldschool electro, ghetto house a la DJ Funk, contemporary Timbaland style RnB, soundtracks to arcade game dancing machines and breakcore, and it's purely designed for competitive dance-offs, to the extent that very very few of the tunes have ever even been released over the years, instead they're distributed locally on CD-R's and made specifically for events and even for specific dancers.
Planet Mu are already on it, two 12" releases from DJ Nate on the way, and there's plans for a compilation in the future. (see below)
Here's a Mike Paradinas primer mix:
http://www.mixcloud.com/mikep/mike-paradinas-footworkjuke-mix/?utm_source=widget&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=bas%20%20e_links&utm_term=cloudcast_link
http://planet.mu/discography/ZIQ280
http://planet.mu/discography/ZIQ281
Addison Groove, Ramadanman, Ikonika and Girl Unit have already started making UK tunes that draw on the Juke influence. Check the B-side of Ramadanman's new 12" on Swamp81 - badness!
Excellent, I shall chech that out ta0
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4iONfj0gRQ
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