Ford Mondeo NT Zetec 1.8 TDCi ex company car

Repolho

The company I work for sells off their ex rep cars to other employees after 3 years. The cost to buy one would be the difference between the cost of a straight cash deal and with a trade in ie so that the cost to the company would be the same whether they sell the car or trade it in.

In January there are a few Mondeos coming available. There is 1 in particular which I am after, its a NT Zetec 1.8 TDCi model and will probably have 100k - 110k miles on the clock. Its got a full service history.

Couple of questions:

1. I currently own a focus and have previously owned a fiesta and have been very happy with both but never driven a Mondeo. I've read the reviews of this car on Honest John and "What Car" and it seems to get great reviews. Anybody else any feedback on these cars.
2. What is the likely trade in value of this car (ie roughly how much is it going to cost me?)
3. After 100k miles, are there any major jobs due eg timing belt / DPF change that I would need to do and how much will these be likely to cost?

Thanks in advance.

bazz26

I'd say once it goes over the 100k miles mark most Irish people will run away from it making it's resale value poor. If you are buying it a knock down price and plan to keep it for a good few years then it should not be much on an issue.

Things that go wrong with high mileage diesels include the DPF, DMF and injectors. You also have to take into account things like the clutch and gearbox depending on how it was driven. Ask around at work who drove the car in your company and talk to them on it. It will give you a fair idea of how the car was treated.

Henry Ford III

Sorry but what is a Mondeo "NT"?

Bodhan

Repolho wrote: »

The company I work for sells off their ex rep cars to other employees after 3 years. The cost to buy one would be the difference between the cost of a straight cash deal and with a trade in ie so that the cost to the company would be the same whether they sell the car or trade it in.

In January there are a few Mondeos coming available. There is 1 in particular which I am after, its a NT Zetec 1.8 TDCi model and will probably have 100k - 110k miles on the clock. Its got a full service history.

Couple of questions:

1. I currently own a focus and have previously owned a fiesta and have been very happy with both but never driven a Mondeo. I've read the reviews of this car on Honest John and "What Car" and it seems to get great reviews. Anybody else any feedback on these cars.
2. What is the likely trade in value of this car (ie roughly how much is it going to cost me?)
3. After 100k miles, are there any major jobs due eg timing belt / DPF change that I would need to do and how much will these be likely to cost?

Thanks in advance.

What Bazz said is bang on, company cars are like rental cars driven hard. That said the Mondeo is a tough nut.

Here's a review we did of a 2.0 D http://smokerspack.com/2010/06/14/ford-mondeo-2-0-tdci-titanium/

Max Power1

Henry Ford III wrote: »

Sorry but what is a Mondeo "NT"?

+1
That was my first thought on reading the op. (I didnt ask because I presumed it was a lesser well known model\spec that I hadnt heard of :P )

Berty

Googling NT Zetec brings up lots of results from Irish car sales websites. Im still none the wiser though.

I was wondering was it a description of a facelift model or something.

This is the 2nd Google result.

http://www.carzone.ie/search/Ford/Mondeo/NT-ZETEC/201005196782157/advert?channel=CARS

EPM

Bodhan wrote: »

What Bazz said is bang on, company cars are like rental cars driven hard. That said the Mondeo is a tough nut.

Here's a review we did of a 2.0 D http://smokerspack.com/2010/06/14/ford-mondeo-2-0-tdci-titanium/

Not true. Most people I know with company cars looked after them like they were their own. A private car is as likely to be abused.

Still ya got a link to the site in I suppose;p

Repolho

Henry Ford III wrote: »

Sorry but what is a Mondeo "NT"?

No idea, presume that its just a different trim level or something. I just copied and pasted the descriprion of an e-mail!

Its a 125 BHP 6 speed version so perhaps the NT has something to do with the 6 speeds?

R.O.R

Henry Ford III wrote: »

Sorry but what is a Mondeo "NT"?

Repolho wrote: »

No idea, presume that its just a different trim level or something. I just copied and pasted the descriprion of an e-mail!

Its a 125 BHP 6 speed version so perhaps the NT has something to do with the 6 speeds?

I don't know for sure, but since it was mainly used for late 07 / early 08 cars, I'm going to guess it might stand for something as simple as "New Type"?


Unsurprisingly we have a few on fleet, but I am surprised that the highest mileage ones are only around 150,000km at the moment.

There are 2 x Mondeo 1.8Tdci Zetec's with 150,000km and haven't had any issues at all. We have one that had the Clutch & Flywheel replaced at 125,000 (75% cost of parts covered by Ford), but that does have a Tow Bar.

I like the car for Motorway work, but couldn't hack it around town as there is a horrific power flat spot at low revs which can be dangerous until you are used to it. Also surprisingly easy to stall the car for a diesel - and it's not just me.

Berty

R.O.R wrote: »

I like the car for Motorway work, but couldn't hack it around town as there is a horrific power flat spot at low revs which can be dangerous until you are used to it. Also surprisingly easy to stall the car for a diesel - and it's not just me.

I had the previous model 1.8TDCi for a while and it was a whore for moving off in 1st gear. I often stalled the car and it also annoyed me that it sounded like a Transit.

Not just you so.

Mr Magners

I'm a diesel Mondeo man and I have to agree it's quite easy to stall, particularly if you want to go kinda sharpish like. Apart from that it's fairly bulletproof.

I have to disagree about how reps treat their cars, they tend to have them for 3-4 years and spend lots of time in them so they keep them quite well (there's exceptions to every rule of course). Also cars that are mistreated spend more time off the road and it's a pain in the hole having the car in the garage all the time when you've got places to be.

Bodhan

I searched the Ford press site, there's no mention of the NT model anywhere. It must be as R.O.R said and mean New Type for the internal email

Still a nice car though

Casati

Newish cars with 100k miles are difficult to value as most punters will walk away from them, my guess is that a clean 3 year old Mondeo Zetec 1.8 TDCI will be worth about €8k trade. If you know the cars history it could make a very good investment

alexmcred

I'd say the NT means New Tax band i.e. CO2 based

bazz26

The new tax system wasn't introduced until July 2008 and only applied to 2008 registered cars or newer, the OP says that his company sells off their fleet after 3 years so I assume the Mondeo he is referring to is a 2007 registered model which means it doesn't qualify for the Co2 tax system.

The current MkIV Mondeo was introduced in the middle of 2007 so I would presume NT refers to "New Type" as there were still quite a few old shape Mondeos registered in 2007.

Fundthementals

Berty wrote: »

I had the previous model 1.8TDCi for a while and it was a whore for moving off in 1st gear. I often stalled the car and it also annoyed me that it sounded like a Transit.

Not just you so.

+1.. new model Galaxy/ Smax 1.8 tdci has the same issue, really bad turbo lag - especially when the engine is cold - had to develop a whole new driving technique of holding the accelerator to allow the engine "spool up" before dropping the clutch - otherwise you were left for dead as the engine bogged down - real pain at roundabouts and junctions. Ford garage agreed but claimed it was a characteristic of the engine..

alexmcred

bazz26 wrote: »

The new tax system wasn't introduced until July 2008 and only applied to 2008 registered cars or newer, the OP says that his company sells off their fleet after 3 years so I assume the Mondeo he is referring to is a 2007 registered model which means it doesn't qualify for the Co2 tax system.

The current MkIV Mondeo was introduced in the middle of 2007 so I would presume NT refers to "New Type" as there were still quite a few old shape Mondeos registered in 2007.

Car OP is looking at is available in Jan so I presumed it would have been an Jan 08 car so could use the new tax system if the driver so wished.

Repolho

Yeah, its a Jan 2008 car. Like others have saif already, can only assume that the NT has something to do with the tax?

Would the 1.8 TDCi engine in this be the same as the 1.8 focus? I've driven 1 of those and know what you mean about the "flat spot".

Not sure whether we are going to use this as the main commuting car (60 miles per day, mostly motoway) or as the second car which does very little mileage (just around town, shops etc.).

R.O.R

Repolho wrote: »

Yeah, its a Jan 2008 car. Like others have saif already, can only assume that the NT has something to do with the tax?

Would the 1.8 TDCi engine in this be the same as the 1.8 focus? I've driven 1 of those and know what you mean about the "flat spot".

Not sure whether we are going to use this as the main commuting car (60 miles per day, mostly motoway) or as the second car which does very little mileage (just around town, shops etc.).

Much worse flat spot in the Mondeo than in the Focus, but if you are doing 60, mostly motorway miles then I'd have no problem with it.

Emissions should be 154 so will cost €302 per annum to tax - pretty poor for a car in that segment.