Barosso warns 'democracy could disappear' in Greece, Spain and Portugal.

Run_to_da_hills

.EU begin emergency billion-pound bailout of Spain
.Countries in debt may fall to dictators, EC chief warns
.Apocalyptic' vision as some states run out of money

"Democracy could ‘collapse’ in Greece, Spain and Portugal unless urgent action is taken to tackle the debt crisis, the head of the European Commission has warned.

In an extraordinary briefing to trade union chiefs last week, Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso set out an ‘apocalyptic’ vision in which crisis-hit countries in southern Europe could fall victim to military coups or popular uprisings as interest rates soar and public services collapse because their governments run out of money.

The stark warning came as it emerged that EU chiefs have begun work on an emergency bailout package for Spain which is likely to run into hundreds of billions of pounds".

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1286480/EU-chief-warns-democracy-disappear-Greece-Spain-Portugal.html



Words like the above coming from an EU chief like Barosso is quite ironic, it is rather like the pot talking about the kettle being black. Or the leader of the soviet party warning Russia about the dangers of communism.

Is Barroso so naive that he cannot even see the Forrest through the trees?, I guess not.




During the economic boom we encountered a false sense of wealth that seemed to have only feathered the nests of the elite, which seemed to have also gone unchecked by the EU or the IMF.

Did the IMF and EU Commission "fail" this and other countries deliberately so that the end result would be total "enslavement." ?

The economic consequences look very bleak indeed. Whats on the Horizon looks very much like a dictatorship from the very organization that this MP belongs to.. THE EU. :eek:

The absurdity of this ’sky will fall and gravity will reverse’ claim is best understood in the light (sic) of the EU proceedings and structure.

One must remember that the EU is NOT a ‘democracy’, and any appearance of representation is a farce. Policy is made by a Soviet and the ‘reps’ get 5 minutes before the rubber stamp comes down. The EU is only a dictatorship pretending to be a representative body. we all know about this from the Lisbon Yes vote that was so forcefully shoved down out troths in the second referendum.

Torakx

At least with a dictatorship the common people know who to focus their anger on.
We cant say the same for a democracy i think.Left? right? oh which is to blame this time...

bytey

and the lisbon reality begins ..
the truth is out

humanji

I thought Barosso was one of the bad guys? Is he just a patsy now?

fontanalis

What's the time scale, just so we can point and laugh when it passes.

humanji

fontanalis wrote: »

What's the time scale, just so we can point and laugh when it passes.

In fairness it's easy to scoff, but economic emergencies are ripe for taking advantage of people. It's one of the reasons the Nazis got into power, for example.

reprazant

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

Did the IMF and EU Commission "fail" this and other countries deliberately so that the end result would be total "enslavement." ?

So, the EU should have stopped our inept government instead of allowing them to bring the country to the edge of ruin?

They are buggered whatever they do. Step in to do something and they are taking over and control the running of states. Do nothing, and they are purposely allowing countries to fall into ruin so that they can be controlled.

reprazant

humanji wrote: »

In fairness it's easy to scoff, but economic emergencies are ripe for taking advantage of people. It's one of the reasons the Nazis got into power, for example.

In fairness, it is easy to scoff when the OP seems to implying that the EU engineered these economic emergencies so that they can take control.

Ironically, they seemed to have engineered them by not taking control of countries that were fiscally inept.

fontanalis

humanji wrote: »

In fairness it's easy to scoff, but economic emergencies are ripe for taking advantage of people. It's one of the reasons the Nazis got into power, for example.

Fair enough but the ocuntries in question f***ed up themselves by actling like a teenager with their daddies credit cards. So it mightn't be a case of taking advantage of people but if you can't act responsibily someone else will.

Torakx

reprazant wrote: »

In fairness, it is easy to scoff when the OP seems to implying that the EU engineered these economic emergencies so that they can take control.

Ironically, they seemed to have engineered them by not taking control of countries that were fiscally inept.

Do you mean countries like Greece?
It appears there is a conspiracy with their financial downfall and it would not suprise me in the slightest if that was organised by the same people involved here or close allies/bussiness partners etc.

rockmongrel

Key word in his speech being could. It could rain tomorrow, but it may not.

Frankly, the I'd imagine the memory of Franco is still embedded in the minds of many Spanish people and there are so many anti-fascist groups in Spain I just can't see it happening.

Di0genes

Torakx wrote: »

Do you mean countries like Greece?
It appears there is a conspiracy with their financial downfall and it would not suprise me in the slightest if that was organised by the same people involved here or close allies/bussiness partners etc.

Do you have any understanding of the situation? It was about gross financial mismanagement by the Greeks including absurdly generous state pensions.

Torakx

Yes i have a good understanding of what happened in greece.And a good idea of who the people were that got involved years before it happened.There is a thread related to this topic on this forum also.And many in the economy forums.

rockmongrel

humanji wrote: »

In fairness it's easy to scoff, but economic emergencies are ripe for taking advantage of people. It's one of the reasons the Nazis got into power, for example.

Goodwins law, I'm calling it :pac: