Lyme disease

johngalway

http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/Lyme-disease/Pages/Introduction.aspx

Unfortunately I know of two people who have very recently contracted this disease. Be aware and take the precautions, it's not pleasant.

poulo6.5

johngalway wrote: »

http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/Lyme-disease/Pages/Introduction.aspx

Unfortunately I know of two people who have very recently contracted this disease. Be aware and take the precautions, it's not pleasant.

There are plenty of ticks on the deer around here. Do they all Cary the infection or only some of them. I'v never bin bitten by one but I'd imagin it could happen quiet easily. When you throw an animal over your sholder to carry it out to your car could be fthe danger point

johngalway

poulo6.5 wrote: »

There are plenty of ticks on the deer around here. Do they all Cary the infection or only some of them. I'v never bin bitten by one but I'd imagin it could happen quiet easily. When you throw an animal over your sholder to carry it out to your car could be fthe danger point

AFAIK Paulo, not all ticks will carry it. But I would treat all ticks as being capable of carrying it myself. Ticks hang out on grass and other plants, wait for you to come along then hitch a ride, as well as being on animals, so one can latch on before you ever see anything on four legs. Always check after coming home.

The doctor in one of the cases recommended the website in my OP. This below is a link off that website to another site on Lyme Disease. How accurate the info is I can't say.

http://www.lymediseaseaction.org.uk/lyme.htm

One of the cases I know was never near a deer or deer country. I know that for a fact. Sheep and dogs were the animals she would have been near to. So I wouldn't just narrow the options down to this being a problem in deer populated areas.

Dusty87

Wasnt there someone on here before with it??
There was a big thread on it.

http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055234995&highlight=Lymes+Disease

Tackleberrywho

poulo6.5 wrote: »

There are plenty of ticks on the deer around here. Do they all Cary the infection or only some of them. I'v never bin bitten by one but I'd imagin it could happen quiet easily. When you throw an animal over your sholder to carry it out to your car could be fthe danger point

Always make sure you check your self Paulo for ticks after handling.

Especially in those softer places

johngalway

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

Always make sure you check your self Paulo for ticks after handling.

Especially in those softer places

Yeah, they like around the ankles, backs of the knees, inner thighs, groin area, waistband area, armpits and upper inner arm, inside of the elbow, I've seen them on the neck too.

I'm sure they'd latch on elsewhere but those are the most common places I've had them!

landkeeper

i have two friends who have it, one a man was undiagnosed for nearly a year it has reduced him to a shadow of his former self , lost muscle mass and coordination , he has to take lots of meds to even maintain some semblence of normality in his life
the other a girl in her forties got sick and suspected lymes even though as far as she knows never had a tick , went to the uk for tests and it was confirmed withinh a fortnight and has made almost a complete recovery .
It is a nasty disease and amazing how it's spread here so quickly so be carefull read up on the symptoms and if you suspect yopu may have it for goodness sake get checked out cos its nasty and progressive

dicky82

stupid question but are tics those chubby grub like fellas that cling on round the ears of animals??:o

fodda

dicky82 wrote: »

stupid question but are tics those chubby grub like fellas that cling on round the ears of animals??:o

http://grow-your-own.ie/sheepparasites.html

Theres a good pic there.

Dusty87

Can dogs get Lymes or just humans??

ivanthehunter

Dusty87 wrote: »

Can dogs get Lymes or just humans??

AFAIK yes..

IIRC i think i seen some tv footage showing hunters how to protect their dogs from this.. Not sure though- it could have been something on the utube channel:eek:

Dusty87

Thanks Ivan, il look it up. My setter x is a magnet for them. Although he's rarely on ground with deer. But as JohnG said they dont have to be around deer.
Can you remember what way it affects them???

fodda

Lymes disease is only a part of the picture the diseases dont discriminate between sheep you or your dog and any other animal either.

cbrjohnthou

johngalway wrote: »

http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/Lyme-disease/Pages/Introduction.aspx

Unfortunately I know of two people who have very recently contracted this disease. Be aware and take the precautions, it's not pleasant.

Thanks for that john I had heard a lot of myths before about Lyme disease and thats cleared a lot of them up, I had heard that Lyme disease lies dormant for a number of years but that was obviously un true.

Barname

that scare was big stateside a few years ago

every whiner and lazy azz I knew caught it

never realised it was an issue here

ivanthehunter

Barname wrote: »

that scare was big stateside a few years ago

every whiner and lazy azz I knew caught it

never realised it was an issue here

I might tell her i have it:D

cheesehead

This topic caught my eye. I come from an endemic area for Lyme (US Northeast region). If contracted, Lyme Disease is quite sensitive to fairly routine antibiotics. However, as Barname alludes above, Lyme caused "quite a stir" several years ago and any human ailment not readily explainable was being attributed to "complications of Lyme". As people became more educated on the disease, "Lyme hysteria" cooled down.

As one of the world's experts on Lyme Disease likes to say, "The best defense against Lyme Disease is the daily shower". For all you hunters/hikers out there, this is probably some of the simplest, most effective advice to heed. Here is some other good/evidenced-based medical advice to prevent Lyme Disease for people who venture into Tick habitats:

Use tick repellents, such as DEET, on skin and permethrin on clothing
· - Wear light-colored, long-legged and long-sleeved clothing.
· - Check for and promptly remove ticks after exposure to tick habitat (the daily shower)

It's also important to know if you are in a Lyme Disease endemic area. While Ireland is included in the Lyme Disease vector map, currently Germany, Austria, Slovenia and Sweden have the highest prevelance of Lyme Disease in the Euro-zone (latest statistics I saw (from 1995) had Slovenia and Austria at 120 to 130 cases per 100,000 population). Lyme Disease is currently the most commonly reported tick-borne disease in both the US and Europe.

Hope this helps.

ssl

I got vaccinated against Lymes disease when I worked in forstery in Slovakia. The shots weren't expensive. Get them if your worried.

Tackleberrywho

ssl wrote: »

I got vaccinated against Lymes disease when I worked in forstery in Slovakia. The shots weren't expensive. Get them if your worried.

Any side effects from vaccine?
It might be worth it, although it could be expensive here, or not available

ssl

Tackleberrywho wrote: »

Any side effects from vaccine?
It might be worth it, although it could be expensive here, or not available

No side effects, it was €120 here in 2004 to be vaccinated against both Lyme disease and tick borne encephalitis (another awful illness- on the rise abroad). I only got these because the company I was with insisted on it, health and safety stuff.
Sapose everyone will have to decide for themselves.

zulu_dawn

check out this travel vaccination website and page for ireland

http://www.travmed.com/guide/country.php?c=Ireland

Up to 15% of population has it..... ?

"Lyme Disease: Lyme disease is endemic with up to 15% of the population seropositive for antibodies to B. burgdorferi. Clinical cases occur among all age groups, usually during the summer months. The Ixodes ricinus tick population peaks in May and September.
• All travelers who engage in hiking, camping, or similar outdoor activities in rural wooded regions of endemic areas should take measures to prevent tick bites. Tick-bite prevention measures include applying a DEET-containing repellent to exposed skin and permethrin spray or solution to clothing and gear.
• A single 200-mg dose of doxycycline is effective in preventing Lyme disease if taken within 72 hours of being bitten by an infected tick."

elius

Am i the only man that gets all itchy reading these stories!! :D:D:D:D:cool:

zulu_dawn

a really good IRISH website for info on Lyme Disease

http://www.hpsc.ie/hpsc/A-Z/Vectorborne/LymeDisease/Factsheet/

cheesehead

A Lyme disease vaccine, Lymerix, was approved in 1998 for prevention of Lyme Disease. Despite clinical trials and post-marketing surveillance surveys indicating a favorable safety profile, there were theoretical concerns about vaccine safety that led to poor acceptance of the vaccine. The manufacturer of the vaccine discontinued production of the vaccine and it is no longer available.

4gun

can some one have a natural immunity to lymes, My auld fella keeps a few catttle and any time he buys one in he has toinject them against Redwater, but cattle reared on the land dont have to be..
Red water is caused be the same tick (Sciortans as they are known locally)

just wondering

gismoman

I have lymes since the last summer and was only diagnosed after requesting the test from my doctor.some months after being bitten by a tic while camping in West Cork no where near deer.
symptoms include aches and pains fatigue, headaches, among other things
Once confirmed I was then put on three weeks heavy antibiotics.
then went to see a disease consultant and more blood tests which showed that the antibiotics have stabilized the lymes and it is apparently not now active.
strange thing is that I am now trying to do my work and still feel extreme pains at time s and tiredness.
would like to hear of anyone else with same and consult .

crackcrack30

Go into google scholar (not web, not images, yes scholar ) then search lymes disease, found some interesting reading and different aproches to treatment / cures? ect..

just read the studies in this centuary! and those that are cited alot...

FISMA

Lads,
Wore a pair of old jeans once out skinning a deer that was hanging. There was a small tear from the day around the mid quad. Later when I went to take a shower - found a tick. Small fecker at that.

Ticks like cracks and crevices. Around the elastic on your boxers, top of socks, and the like. ALWAYS CHECK THE CRACKS AND CREVICES. Sorry for the way that sounds, but its true.

I cover up almost 100% whenever I am gralloching, handling, hanging, skinning, or whatever. I never take off the old hunting skullcap.

If you wear long jeans, boots, and long sleeves, you'll probably be fine.

I worry about one getting into the hair or around the ears. Hence the reason for the hat.

Always take a shower after the day. Women are told to check themselves for breast cancer each time they shower. That's at least in part due to increased sensitivity you have with the water, soap, shampoo.

I always give myself a good going over after a day out - ensure you clean every nook and cranny It's not just about hygiene, but checking as much of the surface area of your skin as possible.

Also, I have no idea if it works. However, whenever I make the shot, I eat a few garlic tablets. I have heard that they work. But then again, that tiger rock I have, for keeping the tigers away, hasn't failed yet!

I wonder if they could survive a sauna or a really, really, hot shower?

Slan

meathstevie

FISMA wrote: »

Lads,
Wore a pair of old jeans once out skinning a deer that was hanging. There was a small tear from the day around the mid quad. Later when I went to take a shower - found a tick. Small fecker at that.

Ticks like cracks and crevices. Around the elastic on you boxers, top of socks, and the like. ALWAYS CHECK THE CRACKS AND CREVICES. Sorry for the way that sounds, but its true.

I cover up almost 100% whenever I am gralloching, handling, hanging, skinning, or whatever. I never take off the old hunting skullcap.

If you wear long jeans, boots, and long sleeves, you'll probably be fine.

I worry about one getting into the hair or around the ears. Hence the reason for the hat.

Always take a shower after the day. Women are told to check themselves for breast cancer each time they shower. That's at least in part due to increased sensitivity you have with the water, soap, shampoo.

I always give myself a good going over after a day out - ensure you clean every nook and cranny It's not just about being hygiene, but checking as much of the surface area of your skin as possible.

Also, I have no idea if it works. However, whenever I make the shot, I eat a few garlic tablets. I have heard that they work. But then again, that tiger rock I have, for keeping the tigers away, hasn't failed yet!

I wonder if they could survive a sauna or a really, really, hot shower?

Slan

Good drills but as for your question about sauna and hot shower I think them little feckers are about as though as it gets when it comes to surviving in harsh environments so I wouldn't bank on it.

lb1981

Another one to watch out for is tick bite fever,feels like you have the flu but you get red spots all over your body,it took me 2 months to get over it fully.Dr fry in bray is the man to sort you out if you get a tick bite and it passes an infection on to you.spent 500 hundred on doctors and medican during the summer before he diagnosed me and sorted me out.

323

elius wrote: »

Am i the only man that gets all itchy reading these stories!! :D:D:D:D:cool:

No, just reading this has me scratching.

Dont know about the garlic tablets for ticks, though from experience I do believe it works with other biting beasties abroad, will try it for ticks next season.

For what its worth, I have tried the shower as hot as I could stand and they survived in my hair and my other half found the little bas***ds on my back.
However a friend I hunt with regularly swears he has not found a tick on himself since he started using Detol soap even after handling animals early in the season with noticable numbers of ticks.

jamesjasper

I've came across lots of people recently here in Ireland who've got it and were infected here - the 'hotspots' seem to be Galway, Kerry and Wicklow.

For more information on Lyme disease in Ireland: http://www.ticktalkireland.org/whatislyme.html

BW.

.17hmr

323 wrote: »

No, just reading this has me scratching.

Dont know about the garlic tablets for ticks, though from experience I do believe it works with other biting beasties abroad, will try it for ticks next season.

For what its worth, I have tried the shower as hot as I could stand and they survived in my hair and my other half found the little bas***ds on my back.
However a friend I hunt with regularly swears he has not found a tick on himself since he started using Detol soap even after handling animals early in the season with noticable numbers of ticks.

When we worked in the parkes we rubed Detol all over before we started and it seemed to do the trick But you got some strange lookes when you stoped off in the shop on the way home:)

Tick Talk

If anyone spots any ticks this Summer we have just started a new survey.

Tick Talking while You're Walking Tick Survey:
Recording ticks when you see them...

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/VRFCD8T

Lyme in Ireland Survey:
Recording your experiences of symptoms, testing, treatment etc (anonymous survey for privacy)

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.aspx?sm=qqrP_2bn_2bqPQSryRKHMTyJ1w_3d_3d

Tick in Time Survey:
Are leaflets, warning notices etc. making it out to the general public?

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Remember, A Tick in Time Saves Lyme!